Swine Flu news and updates thread

Originally posted by yzzyUK
If the level is raised to 6 ... will flights not cease anyway?

That is a good question mate! - I must check that up!

But I wouldn't be surprised if everything went on as business as usual.

The economy goes before everything these days it seems!

Most of the new cases involved high school students in the western prefectures of Hyogo and Osaka who had not traveled overseas. Health officials said they were recovering in local hospitals or at home.

Spain and Britain have had the highest numbers of cases in Europe, reporting 103 and 101 cases, respectively. Britain on Sunday announced 14 new cases — 11 of them transmitted within the country.

I guess we are now on level 5.5 ? lmao

Japan confirmed on Monday 125 people, many of whom had not been abroad, had been infected with the new strain of H1N1 flu after New York recorded its first death from the virus and Chile reported its first two cases.

uk.news.yahoo.com...

well... i'm still wondering if we have not even seen the tip of the berg yet...

Originally posted by Extralien

Japan confirmed on Monday 125 people, many of whom had not been abroad, had been infected with the new strain of H1N1 flu after New York recorded its first death from the virus and Chile reported its first two cases.

uk.news.yahoo.com...

well... i'm still wondering if we have not even seen the tip of the berg yet...

I believe we havent even see the tip of the iceberg as well! It is only getting worse!!

I would like to see what some of the policy changes are that the CDC and the WHO have sent out to doctors. I think that would tell us a lot.

Pandemic level 5.5!! That is funny. I am sure the WHO is still getting all kinds of "Dont do it" Calls from TPTB to up it to level 6.

Originally posted by yzzyUK

Most of the new cases involved high school students in the western prefectures of Hyogo and Osaka who had not traveled overseas. Health officials said they were recovering in local hospitals or at home.

Spain and Britain have had the highest numbers of cases in Europe, reporting 103 and 101 cases, respectively. Britain on Sunday announced 14 new cases — 11 of them transmitted within the country.

I guess we are now on level 5.5 ? lmao

Yeah good one! today we'll see a new definition of 5.5 from WHO for sure!

Man! this stuff it's not funny! I need to plan many things for my business and maybe cancel a long trip to Spain this summer, so I would really like to know the future right now so I can plan!

But I guess I have to plan for the worst!

It reminds me of a weak parent scolding it's child:

"If you touch that chocolate I will smack you.... ok put it down... if you eat it I will deffinatley smack you... ok you've eaten it... if you swallow I will... omg you swallowed it... if you touch another one that is IT... "

Smack the child already and keep your dignity!

Not that I advocate smaking... I'm just obsessed with analogies...

reply to post by Extralien


No we haven't seen the tip of the ice berg yet as I am sure eco can also attest to. Most of that ice berg is still being held under loads of international paperwork and bureaucracy.
But we do have a shining light in our corner and that is foreign countries that aren't so keen on letting their people be killed off! For the sake of the "north American flu" and the health of the financial markets over here. These same countries are pushing the WHO into a corner and forcing them to come out with it; Get the level to 6 where it has actually been for a bit now. If they don't launch it by Wednesday I can bet they will come out full force with all kinds of information the WHO doesn't want out. (Mainly their stalling to get the most profit out of the vaccine's etc involved with the pandemic.)
They are already pushing hard by letting the whole world know just how fast and hard this flu really is. If you read very closely they are also telling people exactly how it is spreading from person to person at an alarming rate that is being denied here in the USA. It is only a matter of time before they come out and announce the results of their own test's to take down anyone else in their way.

Well I'm waiting [have been for 8 days] to get my arm/shoulder plastered after a fracture so they can wait until Wednesday Lunchtime when I should be ready and done! lol

Americans can't handle the truth like those in other countries can. Americans have been lied to and coddled so much, IMO, that now there are too many layers to peel back that nothing wakes people up until they get smacked in the face.

How does that line from Shakespeare go?.... 'oh what tangled webs we weave, when first we practice to deceive'...one of my personal favorites!

When the American people DO get finally informed, enraged and willing to rise up, WATCH OUT!

And that, is what those "in charge" are afraid of.
Just my opinion!
Thanks,
FMF

reply to post by yzzyUK


I can't believe it takes so long in your healthcare system to get taken care of! That is appalling! I broke my elbow in Nov of '08. That night
I had a temporary cast; two days later I was in a specialists office; within 6 days had a follow up MRI and was on my way to healing!

Sorry to hear this is taking so long for you-good luck!
FMF

On CNN this morning, they were discussing the death of the Assistant Principal in Queens, NY. Elizabeth Cohen, CNN's Medical Correspondent said (and I'm paraphrasing), "We are hearing that the gentlemen had a previous underlying medical condition. That seems to be the case with those who have died from this strain of the flu; they all had underlying, pre-existing conditions that caused their death. That is the same as with the standard strains of flu."

You just have to love how these alleged "subject matter experts," are so willing to accept the official word without spending any time to independently confirm it.

Originally posted by fullmoonfairy
Americans can't handle the truth like those in other countries can.

I fully disagree.

The ENTIRE WORLD is full of idiots that can't handle the truth.

Then again ... the ENTIRE WORLD is also full of people smart enough - like you and I - to handle the truth of situations and to determine on our own if it is important enough to 'panic' about.

For any gov't body or world body who has a job of protecting us to say that they wont' release info because they are afraid of panic ... that's just . WE - NOT THEM - have a right to determine what is important enough to panic about.

Originally posted by Night Watchman
"We are hearing that the gentlemen had a previous underlying medical condition. .

Yes ... they are hearing it from TPTB. The mans wife is outraged and is claiming it's a lie. She said - in the New York Post I think - that the man was healthy and never even caught colds.

reply to post by Night Watchman


I agree, they seem to never question the whole "underlying condition" statement

Underlying condition doesn't have to be anything serious either...it can be as simple as this patient had asthma, well so does half of the rest of America so you doesn't really make me less worried.

Here is my personal list of underlying conditions most people are walking around with everyday that can make you more easily taken out by the flu...please not most of us have one or more, or know someone who has them.

1. Asthma
2. Allergies
3. Heart murmur
4. Autoimmune disease: Lupus, Hypo-Hyper thyroidism, Sarcoidosis, Crohns, Ulcerative Colitis, etc
5. Diabetes
6. Pregnancy
7. Having had pneumonia in the past
8. High blood pressure
9. Hepatitis
10. Cancer
11. Any illness that causes you to need prednisone, anti-TNF meds.
12. Stress

and the list could go on and on and on...Needless to say we pretty much all have some form of underlying condition...

People please don't let the underlying condition statement cause you to be over confident about your chances, the people dieing were functioning adults, none have been reported to have any "severe" underlying conditions like being on chemo at the time, so I'm finding it highly alarming that they are continuing to toss that excuse out there

reply to post by Night Watchman


I sure as hell hope that the family of this guy will publicly state that he did not have 'underlying health issues'

Just like the Texas Ladies husband did.

Edit to Add: I can't believe they state that pregnancy is an underlying health condition, it's made to sound like a disease!

[edit on 18-5-2009 by skitzspiricy]

reply to post by FlyersFan


Point taken! Maybe it is just the people I talk to that makes me think this is the case. It just feels like people in general are just too satisfied with the status quo to pay attention or care. I have the utmost faith in the American public once they DO get all of the correct information though. We can be the most resourceful, helpful and giving country in the world when given the chance!

As irritated as I am at this situation right now I fully believe the American public will pull together if given the chance.

Originally posted by whoreallyknows
1. Asthma
2. Allergies
3. Heart murmur
7. Having had pneumonia in the past

Change 'heart murmur' to 'irregular heart beat' and you have a partial list of my health problems and why I'm so 'germ aware' these days.

My daughter has asthma and has had pneumonia many times.
My husband has asthma and allergies.

Heck .. that poor preganant woman in Texas who died was just pregnant and the CDC said she has 'underlying health issues'.

Doesn't just about everyone in the USA have an 'underlying health issue'?

Originally posted by fullmoonfairy
It just feels like people in general are just too satisfied with the status quo to pay attention or care.

I hear ya'. The apathy is sickening, isn't it? The people in the world aren't rising up and demanding information. They are just wandering along ... not paying attention to the news cap that's been put on this thing.

I am surprised there is no 'comparison chart' type information anywhere on the web with people who passed away after having H1n1, people who caught it 'bad, and those who had a mild bout..

ie: of the dead how many were male, female, Asian, Mexican, Italian decent, how many of the seriously sick had already had a bout of the flu, how many had a history of XYZ...

You know like when you go on line to buy hosting and you get the comparison columns...

What i mean is... is this 'thing' indiscriminate or is it targeting certain factors.

If a person has 3 or more of the 'factors' are they more likely to come down with this... if they have 5 or more are they more likely to get bad... if they have 9 or more are they in the 'could die' zone.

They MUST have some form of statistics!! I'd also like to know that if I was in the 3 or more what precautions I could take specifically to protect myself.

If it isn't targeting specific groups then why the hell do some people who come in contact with H1N1 walk away with nothing, some get a mild cough and some die then? How comes the principles wife is alive?

How comes his GOUT was enough to kill him?

The gout is a load of crotch danglers... the underlying causes are still being hidden from us... we all ASSUME when they put “the patient had underlying causes, headlice, eczema, asthma, a ginger cat as a pet” that they are listing the underlying causes rather than saying “underlying causes AS WELL AS asthma, a ginger cat and green socks on that day”

The underlying causes are what this 'thing' is targeting .... the underlying causes are not being disclosed to us because they would send certain groups of us ape shyt nutz knowing we could have protected ourselves.... and the rest into a panic trying to figure out what to do and how.

I posted this in the other main thread about this flu...(since there are 2 main threads I have been following...)
But...wanted to share this here too...As I found it to be interesting...

Assistant Principal treated with a Experimental Drug...???
Just wondering about what it might be...???

Yahoo news...

news.yahoo.com...

Sun May 17, 10:06 pm ET



I hope I did this o.k....???

Just wanted to say...I bet we don't hear any more about this...???

reply to post by sapphirearaidia


Very interesting indeed!!

A test of a new vaccine perhaps?