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posted on May, 17 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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China Daily flu update for Monday, May 18, 2009...

"The first person who tested positive for H1N1 flu in Beijing has been hailed as a model for returning overseas students as Hong Kong Sunday confirmed its third infection and Japan reported dozens of new cases.
An 18-year-old surnamed Liu, who is studying at a university in New York state, virtually isolated herself on her return to Beijing on May 11.
Liu, who flew on board Continental Airlines flight C089, did not go out or meet friends as a precaution because the two other confirmed cases on the mainland were students returning from the US and Canada.
She felt unwell on May 12, and two days later, went to the outpatient section of Peking University First Hospital complaining of cough, headache, sore throat, chest congestion and muscle ache as well as temperature of 37.7 C.
She was shifted to Beijing Ditan Hospital early on Friday, and the China Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences confirmed she had contracted the A(H1N1) virus on Saturday.
Liu was last night reported to be in a stable condition, with her temperature back to normal.
She was cited as an example for students returning from flu-affected countries as being "responsible to society" because she kept a diary about her movements in Beijing, said Fang Laiying, director of the Beijing municipal health bureau.
"She even kept the taxi receipt (for the trip to the hospital)," said Fang. "Otherwise it would have been difficult for us to trace the driver."
Liu's mother and the taxi driver were put under medical observation but neither has shown flu symptoms, said Deng Ying, director of Beijing CDC.
Premier Wen Jiabao Sunday visited the Ditan Hospital and talked with Liu via a video link.
Wen said overseas students in epidemic areas should learn and do more to protect themselves from the flu.
"We are concerned about your health," he said.
Meanwhile, the first H1N1 patient on the mainland was discharged from a hospital in Chengdu, capital of Sichuan province, Sunday.
The patient surnamed Bao, confirmed to have contracted the flu on May 11, left the Chengdu Infectious Disease Hospital at 4:30 pm. He returned to his hometown of Neijiang city in the province along with his father and girlfriend, who had completed their quarantine, said Tian Ming, deputy chief of the hospital.
By 3 pm Sunday, all the 157 people in quarantine in Sichuan were released as they did not show any abnormal symptoms, said Wang Zhengrong, deputy chief of the Sichuan provincial health department.
In Hong Kong, the latest patient, a 23-year-old mainland student studying in the US, arrived late Saturday aboard Cathay Pacific flight CX 831, said Thomas Tsang, controller of the Center for Health Protection.
He was taken to hospital directly from the airport after he triggered the alarm while passing thermal screening.
Worldwide, the number of confirmed cases has climbed to 8,480 and the death toll has remained at 72, the World Health Organization (WHO) said in its latest update Sunday.
The confirmation of cases in India, Malaysia and Turkey brought the number of countries with confirmed cases to 39, the WHO said.
Japan's health ministry confirmed dozens of new cases in waves of announcements Sunday, as the government shut down schools and canceled community activities in affected cities.
The country now has 44 confirmed cases, with 39 of them reported over the weekend, most of them teenagers.
The vast majority of cases have been in Mexico and the United States. The spread of the disease has led the WHO to declare that a pandemic is imminent. On April 29 it raised its pandemic alert to 5 on a 6-level scale."




posted on May, 17 2009 @ 11:28 PM
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American Medical News Monday May 18 2009...

"As the influenza A(H1N1) outbreak sent chills around the world this spring, physicians struggled to keep up with developments while tending to scared patients.

Many worried patients called Arkansas internist and pediatrician Robert Hopkins, MD, about what they called the "flu that is killing people right and left." Aurora, Ill., family physician Carrie Nelson, MD, scrambled to read policy changes faxed to her by federal health officials."

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other agencies are casting a wary eye toward the fall flu season, with the thought that the H1N1 virus might continue to circulate and, perhaps, become more virulent. Plus, it will be accompanied by seasonal influenza, which causes some 36,000 deaths annually.

Physicians are analyzing their first go-round with the H1N1 virus for ways to improve their responses."

"The need for speedy communication was one lesson learned as the virus swept through the nation. Guidance to physicians was updated as federal health officials learned more about the virus. The CDC used Twitter to provide updated reports.

In the future, receiving updates via Twitter would be better than being bombarded with faxes, Dr. Nelson said. Her fax machine was nearly as busy as she was during the height of the outbreak.

The CDC used Twitter to give updates on the H1N1 virus.
She had prepared for an increase in patients as word spread of the new flu strain. Many people she treats are from Mexico and have friends and relatives there, leading to frequent travel in both directions.

What she wasn't prepared for were the rapid-fire policy changes faxed to her. "New policies were coming down sometimes hours apart from one another," she said.

The outbreak also served as a reminder to some physicians that surge capacity in emergency departments needs to be increased.

"Most emergency departments report they are at 150% to 200% of capacity on a regular day," said Richard N. Bradley, MD, chief of the division of emergency medical services and disaster medicine at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston. "When you put on top of that the possibility of a severe pandemic, you are really throwing some challenges at the system."

the link...www.ama-assn.org...



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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Well it seems today has been full of major events that will have to get the attention of SOMEONE...


W.H.O. May Raise Alert Level as Swine Flu Cases Leap in Japan
www.nytimes.com...

Japan Swine Flu Cases Top 100; Schools Shut, Workers Sent Home
www.bloomberg.com...

Peru confirms 2nd swine flu case in US man
www.chron.com...

Three Lehi schools report swine flu cases
www.swineflunews.org...

GLOBAL: Swine flu epidemic spreads
www.universityworldnews.com...

Study abroad programs re-evaluated
Officials take measures to protect students
www.swineflunews.org...



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Well it seems today has been full of major events that will have to get the attention of SOMEONE...


W.H.O. May Raise Alert Level as Swine Flu Cases Leap in Japan
www.nytimes.com...

Japan Swine Flu Cases Top 100; Schools Shut, Workers Sent Home
www.bloomberg.com...

Peru confirms 2nd swine flu case in US man
www.chron.com...

Three Lehi schools report swine flu cases
www.swineflunews.org...

GLOBAL: Swine flu epidemic spreads
www.universityworldnews.com...

Study abroad programs re-evaluated
Officials take measures to protect students
www.swineflunews.org...



Alright I think we all think this is going to go to a level 6 official pandemic soon given all the data we have gathered... Now the biggest question of all how bad will it get?

I have not made my mind up yet, but with the information coming out about a possible mutation in the virus already in Mexico who knows! Also how it might not even stop in the summer...

Alright given that what do you guys think?

1. Extremely mild pandemic- Not as bad as 1957 (killed about 2 million people)

2. Moderate Pandemic- Same or around the severity of 1957 pandemic

3. Severe Pandemic- On the scale of 1918(50 + million dead)

4. Catastrophic Pandemic- Much worse than 1918

So... How do you think it will play out according to those four numbers...

So far I am floating between 2 and 3...but then again I am pessimistic lol



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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I don't think that is something that can be determined that way.

I think that we are going to have to wait to see if the general numbers of all viral deaths go up to see what the full impact is. This flu leaves you vulnerable to other viruses and disease, which means that deaths not directly attributed to this flu can probably be traced back to this flu priming the immune system.

Will this virus mutate to a less lethal form quickly? If it does, this pandemic should peak and then peter out in the next several months.

Will this virus be able to maintain being communal in hotter climates? (probably since it is a pig derived flu).

Will this virus be something that our First World countries populations will care about? Probably not. It isn't going to kill much more than the normal flus in our countries, so people won't take it seriously.

The measure of how "bad" this flu is will be popularly be not that bad because if it kills 2 million or more people, most of them are going to be in the third world.

Where popularly, people kind of think that they either deserve it or it needs to happen so, so what.

How bad is a level six? Not too bad where you are.

How much do you are about the hurricane that's drowning people in the Gulf of Mexico, when you're BBQing burgers on the same nice sunny day on your patio? THAT is how bad a level six is.

[edit on 2009/5/18 by Aeons]



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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Current scientific estimates of CFR (death rate) of swine flu h1n1 is that it's around 0.6%, x3 the pandemics of '57 & '68 #swineflu #h1n12 minutes ago from web


FluTracker
(per pantheist)

It is very likely that the WHO will be forced declare Level 6 (Pandemic Level) within the next several days. They have been dragging there feet on this probably for political reasons.

Community spread in Japan and Great Britain plus in Mexico and the US and Canada satisfies the level 6 criteria for human to human community spread in more than one contiguous geographic region.

If the swine H1N1 virus co-infects someone sick with H5N1 (in Asia or Egypt), and/or someone with Tamiflu resistant seasonal H1N1 (most likely to happen anywhere in the Southern Hemisphere sometime this summer), gene swapping through recombination or reassortment is likely to result in a much more dangerous virus ---- highly contagious, resistant to Tamiflu and possibly more lethal than either seasonal flu or H1N1 swine flu.

# Health experts looking very closely at spread of H1N1 flu in Spain, Britain and Japan, a WHO official said Sunday #swineflu #h1n12 minutes ago from web

# Houston TX confirmed 2 cases Friday, over half pupils missing at roll call, 12 went home sick, 390 pupils absent out of 712 #swineflu #h1n13 minutes ago from web

Another "Genius" running for head of the IMF?!?

Osaka governor asks health minister to relax measures against swine flu
mdn.mainichi.jp...

Osaka Gov. Toru Hashimoto called Health, Labor and Welfare Minister Yoichi Masuzoe to request that guidelines to relax measures against swine flu be issued, citing the possibility that current steps could bring city functions to a halt, Hashimoto revealed at a press conference on Sunday.

Swine Flu Outbreak Reaches Japan
05.18.09, 12:40 AM EDT
www.forbes.com...

# 1000+ Japanese schools in Hyogo & Osaka prefectures closed temporarily on swine flu h1n1 fears, 130 cases confirmed #swineflu #h1n13 minutes ago from web

# Significant events in swine flu h1n1 overnight: death in NYC, troubling case growth in Japanese students #swineflu #h1n15 minutes ago from web

The number of cases of swine flu in the UK has passed the 100 mark as 14 more people are diagnosed with the virus.
8:11pm UK, Sunday May 17, 2009
news.sky.com

Hong Kong Quarantines 23 After Third Swine Flu Case (Update1)
www.bloomberg.com...

Mexican pig producer reports zero pork sales due to A/H1N1 flu
2009-05-18 09:12:38
news.xinhuanet.com...

[edit on 5/18/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 02:30 AM
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Japan closes 2,000 schools as swine flu spreads
11 mins ago
news.yahoo.com...

KOBE, Japan (AFP) – Japan has confirmed 129 swine flu cases and shuttered more than 2,000 schools and kindergartens in a bid to slow the spread of the virus that may already have infected hundreds.

While swine flu h1n1 attracts attention, 2 young boys confirmed with H5N1 Avian flu in Egypt #swineflu #h1n13 minutes ago from web

Harrison County, Mississippi: 3 confirmed casesToday, the Mississippi State Department of Health (MSDH) confirms three cases of H1N1 swin..5 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# ECDC: Panama reported 12 more confirmed cases resulting in a total of 55 confirmed cases #swineflu #h1n12 minutes ago from web

# ECDC: In EU & EFTA countries, cases total 94 cases, 36% were confirmed with in country transmission from 263 confirmed cases #swineflu #h1n12 minutes ago from web

# ECDC: total of confirmed cases of H1N1 in the UK rise to 101, 56 of them (55%) were due to in-country transmission #swineflu #h1n13 minutes ago from web

# No updates during the weekend available from Canada and the US #swineflu #h1n14 minutes ago from web

# ECDC report Two more deaths reported from Mexico #swineflu #h1n15 minutes ago from web

# ECDC report Chile confirmed its first 2 cases #swineflu #h1n15 minutes ago from web

# ECDC report 21 new confirmed cases from Japan, not travel related and without link to previously confirmed cases #swineflu #h1n16 minutes ago from web

Worth remembering swine flu h1n1 surfaced about 4 weeks ago, whereas 1918 pandemic took 9months to go round the globe #swineflu #h1n12 minutes ago from web

[edit on 5/18/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 03:27 AM
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with o nly 2 cases confirmed here in norway so far . and my cleaning lady out sick for the past week is still out sick .....


should i worry?



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 03:43 AM
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I don't know about EXCESSIVE worry at this point, but, I'd sure be prepared


UK Swine Flu Fears: Two In Hospital
news.sky.com

Swine flu afterlife of New York teacher
inside-business-news.ru...

Osaka governor not falling for the swine flu panic
www.japanprobe.com...

A/H1N1 flu grips Chile as domestic infection worsens in Japan
2009-05-18 15:12:49
news.xinhuanet.com...

3-yr-old boy is swine flu victim No.9
www.dailyrecord.co.uk...

JadeDsantos: ah sick as a dog - Either swine flu or Bronchitis - but either way I'll be tweeting from bed today . . . 1 minute ago from TweetDeck

[edit on 5/18/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:16 AM
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Does anyone else have the feeling this is a test run of sorts?

I've always trusted my gut feeling about things. And my gut feeling is this isn't going to be the big deadly flu that some fear it is. Of coarse I have no proof or data to back that up, like I said, its just a gut feeling.

The virus is spreading, but not killing in massive numbers. Its almost like its missing something. The magic ingredient to make it a mass killer. So maybe that's the plan?
A test run to see how quickly, and how far a virus like this can spread, only to perfect it for a later date?

There is a fair bit of talk about this virus being man-made. A lab virus constructed for what?

Does anyone else have a gut feeling this isn't the big one, but a test run of sorts for something bigger in the future?



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:23 AM
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Actually...no...

There's plenty enough out there for a wicked Recombination...

Foot-n-Mouth, Q-Fever, Bovine Syndrome, Mad Cow, Bird Flu, AID's, Malaria, Mystery Illness, MRSA, up to 7 different strains of other Flu's...Hmmm...remember it only takes ONE...



[edit on 5/18/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:29 AM
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Are you saying that this current virus can 'pick up' anyone of those diseases and mutate them into itself?




posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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I'm not sure about ANYONE of them, but, a few are certainly possible...

Flu's are known for Recombining...


I'm tellin' ya...this is getting sad...I'm seeing less and less action on these 2 boards everyday...
...beginning to make me wonder...might have to ask a Mod to do a poll on "All members check in for a Head Count" thingy...just to see if there is any drop in membership activity...


[edit on 5/18/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by Burginthorn
reply to post by Hx3_1963
 


Are you saying that this current virus can 'pick up' anyone of those diseases and mutate them into itself?



yep thats exactly what hes saying and id have to agree with him , since the cdc and the who knows that this thing has the ability to muttate either way at this point .



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:41 AM
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NYC Dept. of Health Press Release
Monday, May 18, 2009
pandemicinformationnews.blogspot.com...

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...In addition to suspending some schools with unusual clusters of illness, the Health Department advises any New Yorker who has flu symptoms and also has an underlying health condition such as asthma, pregnancy, emphysema or other lung disease or diabetes; a compromised immune system or cancer; to seek medical treatment. In addition, if an individual with such a medical condition has household or other close contact with someone with influenza, they should see their doctor to determine whether preventive medicine is needed. For students, staff, and household members of affected students and staff at schools which have been closed, those who have an underlying medical condition as stated above should also see their doctors to discuss the need for preventive medicine.
More at Link...

The worst may not be over
Monday, May 18, 2009
pandemicinformationnews.blogspot.com...

[edit on 5/18/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:50 AM
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I hate to be a doosh but is it not somewhat entertaining to witness the complacency of man. This was huge news only for a couple of weeks! Folks, this thing is on the level of "we're already dead", and you know what? No one gives a crap! It's onto bigger and better news like Obama eating mustard on his burgers, or politicians watching hotel porn. I say bring this thing on, humanity needs a gigantic b*%^# slap.



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posted on May, 18 2009 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by switching yard
American Medical News Monday May 18 2009...



What she wasn't prepared for were the rapid-fire policy changes faxed to her. "New policies were coming down sometimes hours apart from one another," she said.

The outbreak also served as a reminder to some physicians that surge capacity in emergency departments needs to be increased.

"Most emergency departments report they are at 150% to 200% of capacity on a regular day," said Richard N. Bradley, MD, chief of the division of emergency medical services and disaster medicine at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston. "When you put on top of that the possibility of a severe pandemic, you are really throwing some challenges at the system."

the link...www.ama-assn.org...


Little by little the truth manages to eek it's way out of the black curtain....

You have to know what to look for in these news reports folks. Some things just stand out like blinking neon.

I posted really early in the thread that under the pandemic response plan and states of emergency, US physicians were being told exactly what to do and say by the CDC and here is the proof, written up in the AMA journal no less.

Trust me, most Doctors will pass on exactly whatever lie the CDC or local / federal government tells them to say. Take advantage of this chance to find out how much you can trust your family Dr. I'm glad to say mine didn't go along with the program and was very willing to talk openly with me.

This is another article worth grabbing a screenshot of and saving somewhere.

[edit on 18-5-2009 by ecoparity]

[edit on 18-5-2009 by ecoparity]



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 05:06 AM
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WHO may declare level 6 within a week.


GENEVA (AFP) — The World Health Organisation's annual assembly opened here Monday, with the spectre of a global flu pandemic hanging over the gathering amid a sharp spike in swine flu infections in Japan.

WHO Director General Margaret Chan, who has the power to declare a pandemic after she consults a panel of scientists, met Mexico's Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova in Geneva juts before the assembly opened.


www.google.com...



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