The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

reply to post by DaddyBare


I know what they know, that the markets are nothing but an illusion like our economy has been for the last 8 years.

reply to post by DaddyBare


Read my post before yours, pretty much outlines that

reply to post by GreenBicMan


Sorry I missed that. I saw the first one above might have started writing when you posted the second... no matter it just proves your point...
something else to add...

Trade in Currencies are up another sign investors are looking for safe heavens

reply to post by DaddyBare


Some experts are coming now telling that what is happening in the markets is the worries about the dollar along with the next quarter numbers if the unemployment numbers keep raising.

The predictions for the holidays retails are not very good.

But you know ever thing will be better than expected

reply to post by marg6043


There in lies the heart of the problem... As much as some would like too they cant just disengage from the Dollar... to much of the worlds market is based on and valued in USD's

Lets say we all decided to tell the UN to go ahead and start a new currency... it would take years to establish a real value.. years to switch the markets over, years to get all countries to accept it in trade...

In the meantime all this talk of dropping the dollar only serves to weaken its standing and when you do that it just drags everyone else down with it...
Do we need a Nation free trading currency, Probably yeah... but its not going to happen over night so all anyone can do for now is hang on for the ride.. PS the Dollar is still a safer place to invest than is say the Won

reply to post by DaddyBare


You are right, the dollar will not be dropped over night but it will be more currencies to compete with it.

After all what will all those US debt holders will do with all the USD reserves.

www.marketwatch.com...

Two key U.S. stock indexes on Friday fell toward probable monthly losses, with both the S&P 500 Index (SPX 1,036, -29.93, -2.81%) and Nasdaq Composite Index (COMP 2,045, -52.44, -2.50%) poised to break seven-month winning streaks. The Dow Jones Industrial Average (INDU 9,712, -250.15, -2.51%) , which had been down 270 points earlier on, was lately off 243.73 points at 9,718.85, leaving it six points above where it stood at the end of September. Should the blue chips fall under the 9,712.00 level, the Dow would snap a three-month streak of gains

Tax credits to home buyers will be extended...

Homebuyer Tax Credit May Be Approved Early Next Week, Reid Says, Unemployment benefits too

Here in Canada, people are stupid, they are going crazy over the swine flu vaccine... most canadians are sheeple...

Ukraine is closing it's country for 3 weeks...
trancy.net...

Tymoshenko said the government would also be banning “all public gatherings, every concert and every cinema showing for three weeks.

This is total martial law in Ukraine...for swine flu... WHAT A FREAKING JOKE.

How long before this applies to us all?

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Tax credits to home buyers will be extended...

Homebuyer Tax Credit May Be Approved Early Next Week, Reid Says, Unemployment benefits too

those are two of the points i focused on, back on Page 561.

yay me...

reply to post by St Udio


St Udio
remember its not a done deal yet... but since you have a real interest in what's likely to happen go read this...
Doug Reynolds' Blog
If both bills were to pass it would put a 12 month extension in place for service members and up the credit to $15,000 for them... the other "everyone bill" caps at $8,000 ... no word yet if that one would be a six or 12 month extension

PS: you do know this isn't free money right??? the IRS expects you to repay that 8 grand and there are severe penalties if you don't or sell before you live in that house for a min of 36 months



[edit on 30-10-2009 by DaddyBare]

reply to post by Vitchilo


Is the world getting ready for the take over of the NWO, it seems to me that as more countries declare national emergencies as suspend their populations activities with mandatory quarantines it will be easier to push anything while the people are busy waiting if they are the next to die because the propaganda say so.

Something is very fishy about the markets down today and the burst of a new virus in the Ukraine

The new virus in Ukraine is called "bankruptcy", just a variation of the regular virus called "bankruptcy", which was created in labs and was supposed to distract attention of people from bankruptcy...


The virus bought them some time, but since time is money, they actually lose...

Indeed, Ukraine is bankrupt....

BTW, a NEW RECORD has been established today... 9 banks are down!

* North Houston Bank, Houston, TX
* Madisonville State Bank, Madisonville, TX
* Citizens National Bank, Teague, TX
* Park National Bank, Chicago, IL
* Pacific National Bank, San Francisco, CA
* California National Bank, Los Angeles, CA
* San Diego National Bank, San Diego, CA
* Community Bank of Lemont, Lemont, IL
* Bank USA, NA, Phoenix, AZ

Total cost... 14.4 billion... I'm sure the FDIC is doing well.... NOT.

Nice... another recovery sign!

Let me ask you Obama, is it time to create another big hype using the Ukrainian ``virus mutation`` to cover all those failures and declare a bank holiday?

[edit on 30-10-2009 by Vitchilo]

You people make me laugh, something is cooking and I bet my latino butt that next week we may see more declarations of national emergencies globally in Europe, remember US was the first nation to do so.

I think along with the national emergencies we may see a lot of nations economy collapsing, but the flu scaremongering is going to keep the people busy waiting if they are the next to die.

Sad truly that somebody can even come with something like a flu pandemic for mass control.

But in this time and age anything is possible all in the name of money and power grab.

Me Think, things are going to be very interesting in the coming days.

I was so sure that they would prop up the market through the end of the year. I may have been wrong. The plan would be more effective if what everyone thought was going to happen, namely most economists and money managers etc, saying we are now in a bull market and headed towards recovery, and that the market was going to be bullish through the first 2 quarters of 2010.

But I would like to know just what caused the huge fall today, and if it was the bank stocks and also stocks which depend on the consumer and profits that sold off, and whether or not the big holding co's sold off or not.

Anyone know what the scoop is?

Special Sector Indices
www.indexq.org...

CRB 270.38 -5.78 -2.09% 10/30
S&P GSCI ENGY 351.87 -9.37 -2.60% 15:44
S&P GSCI 430.64 -12.63 -2.85% 15:45
S&P GSCI Agri 55.39 -0.90 -1.60% 15:45
GSCI livestock 199.39 -1.33 -0.66% 15:45
GSCI Prec Metal 153.43 -1.29 -0.83% 15:45
GSCI Ind Metal 223.29 -6.37 -2.77% 15:45
GSCI Energy 273.82 -9.35 -3.30% 15:45
Natural Gas 492.30 -22.71 -4.41% 10/30
Airlines 23.95 -0.64 -2.60% 10/30
Banks 42.23 -2.20 -4.95% 10/30
Hospitals 461.30 -28.74 -5.86% 10/30
Comp. Tech 804.71 -18.98 -2.30% 10/30
Hardware 276.60 -11.28 -3.92% 10/30
Insurance 3353.27 -72.70 -2.12% 10/30
Paper 80.34 -2.11 -2.56% 10/30
Retailers 380.39 -10.67 -2.73% 10/30
Broker Dealer 111.85 -3.81 -3.29% 10/30
US Dollar 76.36 0.40 0.52% 10/30
Euro Index 147.12 -1.23 -0.83% 10/30
GB Pound 164.60 -0.96 -0.58% 10/30
Japanese Yen 110.96 1.60 1.46% 10/30
Aus. Dollar 89.82 -1.72 -1.88% 10/30
30Y T-Bond 120.16 1.47 1.24% 10/30
30Y T-Bond Yld 42.36 -1.09 -2.51% 10/30
10Y T-Bond Yld 33.92 -1.09 -3.11% 10/30
5Y T-Bond Yld 23.22 -1.23 -5.03% 10/30
3M T-Bill Dscnt 0.45 -0.05 -10.00% 10/30
CBOE Optn P/C 1.21 0.37 44.05% 10/30

Gold & Silver 156.64 -5.40 -3.33% 10/30
PreMetals 314.12 -11.08 -3.41% 16:05
Gold GOX 188.45 -6.93 -3.55% 10/30
Gold Bugs 390.89 -13.53 -3.35% 10/30
AMEX Energy 554.79 -21.47 -3.73% 10/30
NYSE Energy 11075.98 -427.06 -3.71% 10/30
Oil Services 187.30 -8.56 -4.37% 10/30
AMEX Oil 1052.80 -36.76 -3.37% 10/30
PHLX Semi. 296.61 -10.65 -3.47% 10/30
NASDAQ Fin. 1867.53 -61.83 -3.20% 10/30
NYSE Finance 4649.96 -196.94 -4.06% 10/30
NBI 756.75 -10.64 -1.39% 10/30
AMEX BioTec 821.04 -17.66 -2.11% 10/30
PHLX Drug 171.50 -2.48 -1.43% 10/30

Baltic Dry 3103.00 90.00 2.99% 10/30
Baltic Capesize 5047.00 271.00 5.67% 10/30
Baltic Panamax 3150.00 49.00 1.58% 10/30
VIX 30.69 5.93 23.95% 16:14
VXD 26.82 5.08 23.37% 16:29
VXN 29.81 4.41 17.36% 16:14
Euro 50 2743.50 -81.28 -2.88% 20:00
Tran Avg 3613.34 -90.31 -2.44% 16:30
Util Avg 363.04 -6.89 -1.86% 16:30
FTSE Global Util 5284.81 -91.92 -1.71% 17:10
ISE Water 67.90 -2.15 -3.07% 17:00
US Water 536.71 -8.40 -1.54% 16:05
Cleantech 963.64 -23.27 -2.36% 16:58
Progressive Ener. 193.15 -8.06 -4.01% 16:58
WH Clean Energy 97.64 -3.84 -3.78% 16:58
Glob. Clean Ener. 1306.34 -41.71 -3.09% 18:00
ISE Alter. Energy 25.18 -0.78 -3.00% 17:00
Ardour Global 1763.32 -47.99 -2.65% 16:15
FTSE ET50 152.95 -3.16 -2.02% 22:10
Bioenergy 225.75 -5.84 -2.52% 16:15
Env. Services 775.45 -16.25 -2.05% 16:58
Calvert Social 64.53 -1.91 -2.88% 16:00
ISE Sindex 99.51 -2.93 -2.86% 17:00
US Gambling 313.34 -6.72 -2.10% 16:05
S-Net Gaming 2828.96 -31.66 -1.11% 17:00
US Mining 164.86 -5.76 -3.38% 16:06
Basic Material 266.33 -5.34 -1.97% 17:12
World/Energy 216.49 -7.16 -3.20% 10/30
World/Materials 204.41 -4.85 -2.32% 10/30

[edit on 10/30/2009 by Hx3_1963]

So what are your thoughts about the tumble today HX3?

Did the big co's like Goldman et all sell off, or do you think they will prop it back up?

Lucky for me I have cable. I was watching CNBC and they seemed sure there is nothing to worry about! yadda yadda yadda...

reply to post by skepticantiseptic


Consumer spending down 0.5% is what I think triggered it.

There will be a lot more freefall, especially in transportation.

reply to post by skepticantiseptic


Technical game with a volatile spot = vix goes higher = could see anything monday