Muslim student threatens to kill epileptic teacher's service dog

reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Don't know about the face but you got a mouth that could put a Sewerage Processing Plant to shame without the amount of crap it intakes.

Your first post in response to me, and your first sentence has to be a personal insult?

Grow up.

Yes, I do.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Lol... no you don't. Republicans can't even make the distinction between dissent and treason, or Liberals and terrorists; let alone Muslims and Islamic Fundamentalists.

What a wild-assed, broad-brushed, totally unthinking type of generalization. Are you really that biased? You obviously know diddly-squat about American politics.

Economic sanctions?

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Already in place? Iran has about 50 collective embargoes on what it can import and export, from food, electronics, cars even the types of wheat crops it's allowed.
Real great way to punish those enriching Uranium, take their food away. Good one America

Putting it that way, every country on earth has some limitations on what it can import or export, so your point is....pointless.

Because you defend them so fiercely. I have never heard you say a negative word about them. If presented with two arguments, you will believe them every time over your own country.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira

Gee.. It's too bad you weren't born earlier, you would have had a blast in Germany in 1939.

What are you implying? Don't wink like a sissy, man up. Say what you mean.

Please, please tell me you're joking. That you actually realize that a regime which arbitrarily disqualifies thousands of candidates including all women, is not fair. That there is absolutely no comparison between them and the US irt elections.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
What's so shocking about that?
The American people didn't even get a choice in 2000.

You have now exhibited a total ignorance of both American and Iranian politics. Maybe they'll teach you that when you get into high school, so don't fret.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Why is it Republicans just have no sense of ethical compassion?
Their brains seem to be very effective at blocking out other voices and simply lack any reasoning or deducing capabilities when it comes to problem solving.

You sit there and denounce Republicans, but your ignorant bias doesn't say much for liberals, now does it?


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I've removed a bunch of inane bullcrap that is nothing more than your opinion. But something else jumped out at me:

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
What you consider good, righteous and justified; they see as bad, evil and ungodly.
If Osama hates the way Americans live their Western lifestyles in freedom then why doesn't he blow up us Australians? Why doesn't he attack Sweden? Or Denmark or the Netherlands?

You are slowly but surely working your ignorant way around the world. You know nothing about European politics, either. Theo Van Gogh would agree with me, were he alive today.

Maybe you know something about oz politics? I doubt it.

Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira

 

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Don't know about the face but you got a mouth that could put a Sewerage Processing Plant to shame without the amount of crap it intakes.

Your first post in response to me, and your first sentence has to be a personal insult?

Grow up.

You first, Bunky.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Lol... no you don't. Republicans can't even make the distinction between dissent and treason, or Liberals and terrorists; let alone Muslims and Islamic Fundamentalists.

What a wild-assed, broad-brushed, totally unthinking type of generalization. Are you really that biased? You obviously know diddly-squat about American politics.

I know plenty about American politics, and in my dealings with many, many Republicans over the years I can say his "generalization" is spot-on correct.

Economic sanctions?

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Already in place? Iran has about 50 collective embargoes on what it can import and export, from food, electronics, cars even the types of wheat crops it's allowed.
Real great way to punish those enriching Uranium, take their food away. Good one America

Putting it that way, every country on earth has some limitations on what it can import or export, so your point is....pointless.

Oh, so sanctions don't work now? That's interesting. You say you want sanctions. Someone points out sanctions are already in place. Oh, well, that's "pointless". Make up your mind.

Because you defend them so fiercely. I have never heard you say a negative word about them. If presented with two arguments, you will believe them every time over your own country.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira

Gee.. It's too bad you weren't born earlier, you would have had a blast in Germany in 1939.

What are you implying? Don't wink like a sissy, man up. Say what you mean.

I'll say it. You're a Fascist.

Please, please tell me you're joking. That you actually realize that a regime which arbitrarily disqualifies thousands of candidates including all women, is not fair. That there is absolutely no comparison between them and the US irt elections.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
What's so shocking about that?
The American people didn't even get a choice in 2000.

You have now exhibited a total ignorance of both American and Iranian politics. Maybe they'll teach you that when you get into high school, so don't fret.

He gave you a SOURCE for his Iranian election info. Did you bother to look at it?

And on American elections, well, I've already handed you your rear end on that one....

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Why is it Republicans just have no sense of ethical compassion?
Their brains seem to be very effective at blocking out other voices and simply lack any reasoning or deducing capabilities when it comes to problem solving.

You sit there and denounce Republicans, but your ignorant bias doesn't say much for liberals, now does it?

Sure it does. It says we're curious about the real world and seek the Truth above all, while Republicans.... hm. Guess they don't seek anything but uniformity of opinion to justify aggression.

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I've removed a bunch of inane bullcrap that is nothing more than your opinion. But something else jumped out at me:

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
What you consider good, righteous and justified; they see as bad, evil and ungodly.
If Osama hates the way Americans live their Western lifestyles in freedom then why doesn't he blow up us Australians? Why doesn't he attack Sweden? Or Denmark or the Netherlands?

You are slowly but surely working your ignorant way around the world. You know nothing about European politics, either. Theo Van Gogh would agree with me, were he alive today.

Wow, you're just an expert on politics the world over, aren't you? Then why can't you answer specific questions with facts and sources? If we're so damned ignorant why not try and "educate" us? Or is it all an act?

[edit on 5/15/2008 by The Nighthawk]

Just a reminder...

How about we focus the responses on the topic of discussion and NOT on fellow members' character and or person. The post NOT the poster.

Thank you.


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howdy folks. let's remember to stick to the topic and cease the personal attacks.

say it with me.
attack the topic, not the poster.

thanks and carry on.

reply to post by jsobecky


God's sake man at least have the courage to concede defeat instead of pretending like I never refuted all the baseless arguments you made previously. Calling me a coward? Yeah that's rich.

Since you love to dodge bullets and cherry pick the easiest points to refute, kind of like your beloved Fuhrer, I'll ignore most of what you said too...

Theo Van Gogh would agree with me, were he alive today.

Theo Van Gogh? Are you trying to discredit yourself now?
The Dutch man who referred to Muslims as "Goat ****ers" and wanted them to be sent to concentration camps?

This is the man you look up to and idolize? Lol.
May lord have mercy on you....

You haven't a shred of credibility in my opinion any more.

[edit on 15/5/08 by The Godfather of Conspira]

reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Since you love to dodge bullets and cherry pick the easiest points to refute, kind of like your beloved Fuhrer, I'll ignore most of what you said too...

Once again the reference to Nazis. First Nighthawk, now you. And this right after two of the staff have asked us to stop.:shk:

reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Theo Van Gogh? Are you trying to discredit yourself now?
The Dutch man who referred to Muslims as "Goat ****ers" and wanted them to be sent to concentration camps?

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and Theo had his. Apparently you don't believe in freedom of speech?

You seem to associate with the assasin scum that shot Theo and then slit his throat. Is that the way you would handle the same problem?

Originally posted by jsobecky
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and Theo had his. Apparently you don't believe in freedom of speech?

I see. So Ahmadinejad is a tyrannical, terrorist monster who must be destroyed over comments about Israel he didn't even make (at least not in the context you're making out) but Theo's racist BS is "his opinion" guaranteed by "freedom of speech". Your capacity for accepting double standards is astonishing, and it proves you a bigot.

You seem to associate with the assasin scum that shot Theo and then slit his throat. Is that the way you would handle the same problem?

Nope. I'd personally let him make an ass of himself, rather than make him a martyr for the likes of you.

reply to post by The Nighthawk


Well as long as you bash Islam your protected by Freedom of Speech, overstep that line and say two words about America or Republicans and it's clobbering time as far as they're concerned.

Hypocrisy is the basis of the Republican agenda it seems.

reply to post by johnsky


Islam is not a race mate.

It's a religion.

It would be intolerance.. not racism.

Anyways, stupid kid says something stupid, upsets teacher, teacher leaves files complaint, kick stupid kid out of class for being a frikin moron and let the teacher with the dog go back to class.

Seems like a simple solution. I think the reason this got on the news is that the teacher can't do anything, and the Muslim kid won't get punished .. because he's Muslim, so the teacher had to either leave or let some punk kid kill the dog.

Even after the news story is released, I doubt anything will ever happen to the Muslim simply because he's Muslim. Guess I see it backwards.

But what ever.

Had he wanted to kill the dog for the sake of killing a dog, watching it die, eat it, or revenge.. he being a Muslim would never make the news.. however, because he wanted to kill the dog because of an ignorant religious based belief.. it makes the news.

Perhaps bleeding heart righteousness jumped a little to soon at the story? Seeing as, well, he kinda made the story about religion him self, no?

Originally posted by neformore

Originally posted by The time lord

www.islamic-bank.com...
Islamic Bank of Britain is wholly operated in accordance with Sharia’a principles. It is regulated by the UK regulator (the Financial Services Authority) and meets UK banking regulations and safeguards for the customer.

news.bbc.co.uk...
The Islamic Bank of Britain has also said it will not invest in companies associated with tobacco, alcohol or pornography.

Like said they are making their own laws here.

A private institution is free to run itself as it see's fit, providing it stays within the laws of the country it operates in. Obviously this bank does - as I highlighted in your post.

Likewise, the investment choices of a bank are its own affairs.

The Co-Operative Bank in the Uk has an "ethical" investment and trading programme. Has that been over-run by fanatical UK farmers? No.

I know what you are saying and it shows to have some guidelines, but although not researched fully my self but I did read once that certain tax-free overrides due to the infidel attitude towards non-belivers. Non Muslims should pay higher taxes than Muslims as written in their religion, its part of the laws and scriptures known as dhimmi tax. Again I need to go a bit deeper to refine this argument as in to go deeper into the facts.
Its an insult for Muslims to pay interests on money to non Muslims-again showing the intolerant nature here. The divide is that their scriptures separates people up, that is why you would never have an Islamic constitution with a democratic setting for all rights being equal to women and non Muslims. Its part of the whole package and some people use one scripture to say how tolerant they are but the truth is the Islamic professionals who run Islam don't act in the same light, because they know the what is true to the attitude of what is written. To lie and get on with the hidden agenda is not far fetteched either, there is a pre-programmed personality in there to act in deception.

I don't mind if they had Chinese or Hindu or what ever Banks, the idea is that the West is scum in their eyes and anything non Islamic is seen as a threat hence the demand in changes otherwise what is the point of all the fuss? Yes many Westerners see Islamic culture as backwards also as they see us in the same light. The principle is that the Law and religion is inseperatable and the attitudes towards anything non Islamic is irrelevant and should always be challenged because at the end of the day,
you think Christianity can be imposing but get rid of that then you will find a greater system wanting world domination that is hungry to take down what ever is seen unfit according to its scriptures that is non Islamic. Such as a basic Cross in a class room scenario like that is a big turnoff and offensive. Yes you find Westernised foreigners who understand and want to get away from these oppressed countries with those kind of attitudes and not everyone is to blame but the deeper you go into it the more strict the Islamic Rule is, hence the laws of land.

This dog fiasco is just one story of many. You go to some Islamic country that has hardly any knowledge of freedoms then tell your self why they are so intollerant, and why women tourist should be covered up and if they were not they would be assulted.

The closed door is the one with the most rules against everyone, not the one that is open for all, like democracy and Christian-democeracy that exists. What we are finding are doors being shut in the West to rules that are exactly in line with anti-democracy or anti-Christian morals.

People are letting the hole in the ceiling get bigger and one day the whole roof will crash in. You just have to see where Islam meets anything non-Islamic and you will find war and many mini ones happen all the time in society. Look at all the coutries of the world that mix Islamic populations with non, and you will always see war. History shows that this is always the case because of the extream divide of views, Cypress is cut right down the middle, Chechnia and old Yugoslavia and many African countries that have been overtaken by a warring movement of law that is Islam has brought many troubles. Isreal does not want trouble either they want all people to get along but the Palastinians would rather boycott mixure of peoples for internal suffering.

As bad as I sound it's because of the facts and I don't want to sound this way on picking on a particular people or system but looking at the world and history you will find the case is true.

People are worried that our own governments want to impose a Big Brother society like a prison planet, so they let non democratic cultures decide for them to restrict those laws without doing much about it and hiding behind the curtain. Now since 9/11 happened people have been more aware of the hidden agenda that has crept upon the West while bit by bit freedoms have been taken away without people taken much notice.

The dog incident is one of many stories that will continue to boggle the mind, yes us Westerners are no better in our 'Jerry Springer' lives that have been exposed but why not expose the truth of other cultures that can not stand us?

Anyway for me this post is just about a Dog, but the principle of the matter is that too many of these stories are being related to the same old
Pattern of people with its own imperilistic values. You think maybe after 9/11 people like that might feel ashamed to even think of such things, but then again our stupid war has made them think what the hell anyway.


[edit on 15-5-2008 by The time lord]

My mother is also given abuse at college for having her guide dog in the class... things like

"Get that f**kin' dirty dog away from me",
"If that thing sniffs me I'll kill it"
threats of stabbing,
general back chatting and insults, etc etc.

All from Muslims funnily enough so it's definitely not an isolated incident.

Not that she'd leave on the account of that, she'll stand and be defiant plus her dog is trained for attack on command

No matter anyways once the government has banned beer, they'll move onto dogs (as I've always said), the UK government is run by Muslims


[edit on 16-5-2008 by spitefulgod]

So refining heroin for a living = good
Beer = bad
Suicide bombings/jihad = good
Dogs = bad

...now i get it.

I'm sorry to sound this way in my writings but I guess sometimes divides in beliefs and culture needs to be understood on both sides and right now the world is growing through a learning process. WW2 although not a good way to learn was something to avoid repeating, we don't want world wars but isolated ones happen all the time. The world is divided and people and cultures are different and we have to all understand that no one is the same and everyone on all sides need to know that. One side can not persecute another for their beliefs or impose a certain way of living, because that just causes war.

Ottoman empire wanted to over take Europe and Russia at one point as history shows which i think had a different agenda to the British emipre.
www.allempires.com...

en.wikipedia.org...
British empire was colonial based and had its own internal wars but alot of the empire was based on finding new land like Australia and America in which in the end the conolists decided for indepenced and internal battles within happened.

I am still learning my self but Its all interesting finding out.

[edit on 16-5-2008 by The time lord]

Originally posted by Quarantine
So refining heroin for a living = good
Beer = bad
Suicide bombings/jihad = good
Dogs = bad

...now i get it.

Are Americans really any different?

Alcohol = good
Marijuana = bad
Tobacco = good
'___' = bad
Torture = good
Right to Legal Representation = bad
Aggressive foreign policy = good
Consequences of meddling in sovereign nations' affairs = bad
Unwavering, doglike loyalty = good
Dissent, questioning authority = bad

Yeah, we are so holding the high ground.

reply to post by The Nighthawk


The difference is that the Middle East determined by its Koran and every action and decision comes from that as where in the West we can not hold a nation or a people responsible down to one group of people. The Middle East is like one mind and what they have been taught through out is of one nature and no one tries to go outside of that. Hence why terrorist can only go through their scriptures to justify their actions.

The West and liberal minds are open too all, no one says get drunk when you drink but that is your choice. Red wine is good for you as you know but too much can get you drunk. Being drunk can make you happy and some become violent but not everyone does so its your choice. Alcohol has its benefits but also its downside, but not every nation drinks the same amount and everyone is different.

Living in a box can protect so much and being covered up all day can only help so much but there is little development and produces a static stasis.

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
Sharia law is being shoved down the throats of the City of Detriot Mi. Go read they're papers and see whats happening there. Its not a joke. This is happening and as more enclaves of Muslims move into major cities it going to happen more and more. This IS a CONSPIRACY. Its not smoke and mirrors. California would probably be one of the states that rolls over and plays dead when it starts there. Wait and see.
Zindo

Link?

reply to post by The Nighthawk

I'll say it. You're a Fascist.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ...awesome...

I think religion has gotten out of hand. When a student threatens another life (the teacher and/or dog), that tells me something is not right with the mindset of those who don't know how to respect the way things are. Someone has a medical condition. A helpful dog is there to provide assistance. I don't care if the group is Muslim or not. This example shows how intolerant certain people are for those who have nowhere else to turn. Now the teacher and dog both have to find a community more forgiving of their purpose -- to live without a bunch of bigots.

At what point will western nations finally figure out that allowing muslims into their nation will only lead to problems?

Will political correctness once again override common sense?

The Muslim population in Denmark, constituting a mere 4% of the total, refuses to integrate, consumes 40% of the welfare, and constitutes a majority of the country’s convicted rapists

source

The student wanting to kill the teachers aid dog is in Minnesota, the same place where muslim cab drivers are allowed to refuse giving rides to people who have alcohol in their possession, or have animals with them.

The time for tough love has already passed. If muslims, or any other immigrant for that matter, is unwilling to assimilate into our culture, they, and their religion need to be shown the door out immediately.



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