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The topic people, apparantly I must remind you, is that Israel feels it and the world is capable of taking care of Iran as well.
Israel is starting to speak up, and frankly I like it.
The world needs to take its head out of the sand, the last time a world leader used the same rhetoric that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been using was in 1938 by a man called "Hitler", and we all know where that led. And remember: Hitler didnt have nuclear power or the oil reserves Iran has.
Hitler didnt have nuclear power or the oil reserves Iran has.
] The topic people, apparantly I must remind you, is that Israel feels it and the world is capable of taking care of Iran as well.
Its funny, so many racists hide their hatred so well, but when it comes to Israel, the gloves come off...
Originally posted by skippytjc
Mini giant is my own term. I did not show that in quotes anywhere, its silly to focus on that people.
And btw people: "jooo's" is a fairly racist way to say "Jew". Its no different than me saying "A-rabs". If you wouldnt say it that way in front of somebody, what makes you think its any less racist to state it that way here?
The topic people, apparantly I must remind you, is that Israel feels it and the world is capable of taking care of Iran as well.
Its funny, so many racists hide their hatred so well, but when it comes to Israel, the gloves come off...
Originally posted by Jakomo
Um, are you saying WWII Germany was less powerful than present day Iran?
Smoke a lot of weed, do ya?
Originally posted by skippytjc
Israel is starting to speak up, and frankly I like it.
Well, in all fairness Germany didn't have nukes, so if Iran gets some, technically they would be more powerful, right? Put modern day Iran with a fair arsenal of nuclear weapons (hypathetical at this point) against WWII Germany without them, I think Iran would win.
The leaders of Israel and the USA must simply publicly apologize to the people of the region and instead of making comments and dialogue of war and economic attacks, will ask for ideas on how to help them reconstruct and compensate for the troubles they have caused. Then both sides can forgive each other for the crimes they have both perpetuated, and the world can move on.
Originally posted by Jakomo
Germany had a strong enough army to hold off most of the world for a while. Iran? Meh.
Originally posted by Jakomo
not a word of apology for the mess the USA and
Israel have made of the Middle East.
those two countries have most of the ill will
in the Arab world, earned or not.
The Palestinian negotiators indicated they wanted full Palestinian sovereignty over all the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, although they would consider a one-to-one land swap with Israel. As a starting point, Resolution 242 calls for Israeli withdrawal from territories occupied in the Six-Day War and at the 1993 Oslo Accords the Palestinian negotiators accepted the Green Line borders for the West Bank.
The proposal offered by Barak and Clinton at Camp David would have meant the Israeli annexation of 9-10% more of the West Bank. Another 9-10% of the West Bank would be placed under indefinite "Temporary Israeli Control", including a narrow strip comprising 15 % of the length of the border along the Jordan River. The West Bank would be separated by a road from Jerusalem to the Dead Sea, with free passage for Palestinians although Israel reserved the right to close the road for passage in case of emergency. The Palestinian position was that the annexations would block existing road networks between major Palestinian populations. In return, the Israelis would cede 1-3 % of their territory in the Negev Desert to Palestine. Arafat rejected this proposal and did not make a counteroffer.
Clayton Swisher, who was present at the summit, rebuts the conventional wisdom about it in The Truth About Camp David (www.mepc.org...). Swisher, a young scholar based in Washington, approaches Camp David objectively and concludes that the Israelis and the Americans were at least as guilty as the Palestinians for the collapse.
Soon after the collapse of the 2000 summit, Ariel Sharon and a delegation of Likud politicians took a tour of the Temple Mount to demonstrate Israel's control. The next day, a demonstration by a Palestinian crowd broke out of control and Israeli police opened fire on the protesters.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
... Arafat turning
down real peace at the Camp David talks that Clinton
pulled off. Ever see what was offered by the Jews and
refused by the 'palestinians'. Google it up. It'll amaze
ya!!
The Myth of the Generous Offer
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The annexations and security arrangements would divide the West Bank into three disconnected cantons. In exchange for taking fertile West Bank lands that happen to contain most of the region’s scarce water aquifers, Israel offered to give up a piece of its own territory in the Negev Desert--about one-tenth the size of the land it would annex--including a former toxic waste dump.
Because of the geographic placement of Israel’s proposed West Bank annexations, Palestinians living in their new “independent state” would be forced to cross Israeli territory every time they traveled or shipped goods from one section of the West Bank to another, and Israel could close those routes at will. Israel would also retain a network of so-called “bypass roads” that would crisscross the Palestinian state while remaining sovereign Israeli territory, further dividing the West Bank.
Israel was also to have kept "security control" for an indefinite period of time over the Jordan Valley, the strip of territory that forms the border between the West Bank and neighboring Jordan. Palestine would not have free access to its own international borders with Jordan and Egypt--putting Palestinian trade, and therefore its economy, at the mercy of the Israeli military.
Had Arafat agreed to these arrangements, the Palestinians would have permanently locked in place many of the worst aspects of the very occupation they were trying to bring to an end. For at Camp David, Israel also demanded that Arafat sign an "end-of-conflict" agreement stating that the decades-old war between Israel and the Palestinians was over and waiving all further claims against Israel.
More at source:
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Terrorism
The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property in order to coerce or intimidate a government or the civilian population in furtherance of political or social objectives.
Terrorism is the systematic use of terror or violence to achieve political goals. The targets of terrorism include government officials, identified individuals or groups, and innocent bystanders. In most cases terrorists seek to overthrow or destabilize an existing political regime, but totalitarian and dictatorial governments use terror to maintain their power.
Answe rs.com Legal Encyclopedia
If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one per cent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly the Jew ought hardly to be heard of; but he is heard of, has always been heard of.
He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?
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The middle east would be a mess with or without America.
America has only been around for a few hundred years.
The Middle East has been a mess for 5,000 years.
It's a major part of the religion of the region to hate Israel and
hate infidels. As long as their religion rules them they'll
hate us no matter what we do or don't do.
And Agian, to the Topic, do none of you care that a Terrorist State and a Sponsor of Terrorists, will be getting Nukes? Wakeup people. Get your heads out of the Fuzzy Speak, and use some common sense.
Originally posted by truthseeka
First off, I have seen seemingly pro-Israel people (Nygdan, I can say for sure has done this) use the term "joooos" when mocking people who blame Jews for everything. How the f- is it then anti-Jew for me to say the same thing
And finally, how the f- is it anti-Jewish to criticize Israel? Oh, I forgot that by the Zionist rulebook, it is.
I see I only got 1 response (albeit apologistic) to the issues I raised concerning Zionists and Hitler. Not surprising. But, as SOON as you say ANYTHING CRITICAL of Israel, the Zionist catchphrase pops out of the woodwork.
I aslo predict that these people will refrain from talking about the bad stuff Zionists do in favor of slamming me with the Zionist catchphrase.
Hmmm...maybe I'm missing something. Do Zionists actually represent the entire Jewish people? Do they? I could have sworn that Orthodox Jews are against Israel. I could have sworn that Orthodox Jews have demonstrations against Israel.
I guess YOU'RE the racist if you point out that Zionists are racist. How could I have been so mistaken.
Originally posted by Nakash
Just smoke their weed and chill.
To take these theories and historical data even further,"black people were not merely like the Jews in terms of historical experience, they were the Jews."6 Ethiopian mythology projects the longings of the Africans to a Christian African nation under the"Lion of Judah, King of Kings,"but the Zionist mythical reasoning leads their thoughts to the Holy Land itself. The bible reveals to the Rastafarian people the history of their true identity and assures them that their judgment is not purely subjective. In the Rastafarian religion they know that they are descendant from the Jewish religion, but they believe that the bible is written by and about black people. When the bible speaks about the Israelites, the Rastas believe that they were writing about black people.
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