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Originally posted by ludaChris
You do know the CIA had nothing to do with Sadaam coming to power.
After their initial skepticism and scorn, and their failed attempts to extend their media monopoly to the Internet, they began a subtle process of infiltration. For example, I was surprised when, in June, 2001, the notorious Alexander Haig Jr. joined NewsMax's advisory board. It is probably only a coincidence, but lately NewsMax has become a sort of mouthpiece for the Republican Party and an uncritical provider of the Bush administration's propaganda. Its most recent no-brainer is a "boycott France" campaign. I stopped visiting the site several weeks ago. On the other hand, if only half of what I found in this article is true, perhaps NewsMax's problems have deeper roots than I thought. There is a saying in Latin America: "A los periodistas se les paga o se les pega." ("Journalists: you buy them or you hit them.") I don't think it is much different here. I expect that after some unsuccessful attempts to derail some of the most succesful sites, just to bring an example, the media powers will try to buy them.
While many have thought that Saddam first became involved with U.S. intelligence agencies at the start of the September 1980 Iran-Iraq war, his first contacts with U.S. officials date back to 1959, when he was part of a CIA-authorized six-man squad tasked with assassinating then Iraqi Prime Minister Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim.
Originally posted by ludaChris
Onto, Chavez, I honestly dont think Chavez will be a target.
Originally posted by ludaChrisWe all know Pat Robertson is a nut and part of the reason I left the sect of Christianity I was involved in. Now I'm Methodist.
Originally posted by ludaChrisWere already in the middle east and have the assets to conduct an air campaign against Iran, why move the assets to strike Venezuela?
Originally posted by Strangerous
Many of the US's closest and most-informed friends (Europe and others) do recognise that your govt doesn't represent the majority of you Americans.
My sympathies: your country has been hijacked by a christian/corporate minority who have their (as opposed to your) interests at heart - but you're not the only ones.
There's a really good essay by Umberto Eco called something like "12 Ways To Recognise a Brownshirt" in which he gives 12 basic indicators of the fascist mentality. I've just tried to Google it and came up with nothing, which is odd, as there were several copies of it circulating on the net not that long ago.
Still ahead here, Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, he's threatening to cut oil supplies form his country to this country. He also has some strong, some say silly, words for Condoleezza Rice, our secretary of state. We'll have that story.
And our nation's middle class spending more on health care than ever before. And guess what? The administration has a plan to raise that. A special report next.
And with so many urgent issues facing our nation's lawmakers, our nation's lawmakers have left Washington for yet another extended vacation. We'll tell you about the working life, if you can call it that, of our elected representatives throughout the year. Not just on Presidents Week.
Stay with us.
DOBBS: Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez at it again, threatening to cut off oil supplies to the United States. Chavez said Washington better not cross the line, as he put it.
Chavez also made a direct threat to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and insulted her, saying, "Don't mess with me, girl."
Christine Romans has the report.
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Radical Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez taunting Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, blowing her kisses and calling her a "little girl" during his six-hour televised address Sunday.
PRESIDENT HUGO CHAVEZ, VENEZUELA (through translator): Remember, little girl, I'm like the thorn tree that flowers on the plane. I waft my scent to passersby and prick he who shakes me. Don't mess with me, Condoleezza. Don't mess with me, girl.
ROMANS: Chavez chiding Rice after she called him a threat to democracy in the region.
CONDOLEEZZA RICE, SECRETARY OF STATE: It is essentially important that we have a safe and secure neighborhood and one where democratic progress is continuing. And I think it's fair to say that one of the biggest problems we face in that regard are the policies of Venezuela.
ROMANS: With his country's oil bonanza, Chavez styles himself the patriarch of a socialist revolution and has vowed to unite Latin American against U.S.-backed economic reform, all of the while strengthening ties with Iran, China and Cuba.
RICE: You have a bit of a relationship -- or quite a relationship between Cuba and Venezuela at this point, which I think is a particular danger to the region.
ROMANS: In retaliation, Chavez is threatening to cut the U.S. off from Venezuelan oil. "If the government of the United States goes over the line, they are not going to have Venezuelan oil," proving the obvious that his gesture of discounted Venezuelan heating oil to America's poor this winter was a public relation's move and a jab at the Bush administration.
This is, after all, the man who calls President Bush, "Mr. Danger" and a terrorist and has vowed to "defeat the empire." Just last month, he called Rice a true illiterate.
ROMANS: At the same time he's ranting against the United States, he's working pretty hard with his country's oil wealth to eliminate his political competition. And in his six-hour televised address, he declared he'd like to change that constitution, Lou, so that he can keep running indefinitely.
DOBBS: It's good that he has modest aspirations, and in that very democratic country I'm sure he will be able to seek the people's will and make some determination. Meanwhile, what do you suppose President Bush should do as a result of a head of state insulting his secretary of state?
ROMANS: So far, they have not been drawn into this taunting. But Hugo Chavez, I tell you, he uses any opportunity he can to needle the Bush administration. And he did it six hours. He really worked himself up.
DOBBS: Well, it sounds to me like he was working over his own citizen far more than he was Secretary of State Rice. They're the ones who must have felt the punishment.
Thank you very much.