Originally posted by Vladtepes
PLEASE PLEASE tell the mebers of this forum:
How is the Parliament composed now?
Who are the memebers of the supreme Court?
Who is Maria Corina Machado?
[edit on 10-2-2006 by Vladtepes]
1.- The parlament is compose only of Chavez suporters right now. The reason being because the oposicion decided not to run their candidates like a
week before the elections. The reasons for this was that they did not trust the election process... HOWEVER, the United Nations, the Organization of
American States and the Carter center among other international observers we had to make sure there was no cheating told them and guarantee the
opposition that there was no way in hell anyone could cheat. Since Chavez got to power the government decided to modernize the election process.
Before it was all done by hand which was a problem because all they had to do was bride the table officials for different poll centers and they could
change the books and give you the results you wanted. Now it is all electronic and the source code of the software used is given to the observers,
oposition members and whoever the hell wants to check it. The oposition gave as a requirement for tem to participate in the elections that they used
the old manual system. Everyone told them no so they didn't want to participate. Kind of suspicios huh? They do not want to used the 100% cheat proof
system but instead they want the old unreliable, corruption prone one. They knew they did not have the votes to beat Chavez so they decided not to run
and blame it on an unreliable election process. That way they can still lie to their few suporters 2 ways: They make the government look unreliable
and they do not show how little support they really have.
2.- I do not understand why people keep bringing up the supreme court. This is the supreme court that ruled that there was never a coup against Chavez
and freed the people who kidnapped him, replace the constitution of Venezuela for 2 days, started a which hunt against every pro-Chavez member of the
government during the 2 day coup (April 2001) and killed and injured hundreds of people between April 11, 2001 and April 13, 2001, when the people
rised against them, kicked them out of power and brought Chavez back. I have a great video about this in english produced by and Irish group that was
in Venezuela during those days. I made a DVD from the tape so the quality is not awesome but it is good. During this time they assaulted the Cuba
embassy in Venezuela.
3.- Maria Corina Machado... I can't believe youo even brough her up. what a way to kill yourself in an argument. She is the leader of an oposition
organization called sumate. This organization started as an "independent" organization to collect statistics and surveys on the popularity of the
candidates which somehow they always show majority for the oposition. Of course, the surveys were all carried out in the most exclusive shopping malls
of Venezuela and in country clubs were Chavez suporters do not hang out. Mind you, there are a lot of middle-upper class Chavez suporters too, but
they are not vocal because they will be fired from their jobs. After the surveys this organization decided to start collecting signatures for the
referendum against Chavez. When the constitution was Changed 1 year after Chavez getting to power (There was a referendum called to asked the people
if they wanted to adopt the new resolution and that won aswell) Chavez made sure that you could call a referendum on any political figure half way his
term, if enough people are not happy with his job. Sumate, started collecting signatures for the recall refendum against Chavez 1 year earlier than
half way his term or the allowed date for starting the collection. Then they comply to regulations stipulated for this process and to top it, they had
signatures of people who had been dead for over 10 years and from people under 18 years old, which is the age you need to be to vote or participate in
these kind of things in Venezuela. needless to say these signatures were not accepted so they kicked and screamed for months with the help of the
white house. So when the right time arrived they sent them to collect them again. This time they also contained dead and under age people but still
were accepted. Now what they failed to tell the world is that private companies were forcing their employees to sign for the referendum. The problem
with their plan is that when you go vote it is secret so even if you signed for the referendum, you can still vote for the president to stay. Chavez
easily won it and that is why he is still in power. Now it turns out that Sumate is receiving funds from the National Endowment for democracy (I think
tha tis the name). Basically, the white house is using Sumate to destabilize the country. Maria Corina Machado should be in Jail for destabilizing the
country and treason (destabilizing her own country by orders of another country). Shae called many times for riots, protests, people not to pay taxes.
Is she in Jail? no, she is free as a bird.
About Chavez statying until 2030. Now lets clear something up. When Chavez claims that he will stay in government until 2021 he means contributing to
the government, not necessarily as president. Now if the National Assembly (parlament) decided to keep him until 2021, 2030 or any other period other
than 2012 (presidential periods in Venezuela are 6 years and this year if he wins would be his second and last term) it would require a change in the
constitution. Thanks to Chavez, The constitution of Venezuela cannot be changed without the approval of the country. Basically a referendum would be
called to see if we want to change it or not. If we vote yes, then he can stay. As far as I know I think this is what democrazy is right? Chavez made
sure this was included inthe constitution to protect the country from corrupt politicians acting on belhalf of corporations and/or other governments.
For example, in the constitution it states that the oil company of Venezuela is a public company which belongs to all the Venezuelans along with the
natural resources. For another president to be able to sell the oil company now he/she would have to put it on a referendum. This helps us protect our
Lastly, stop calling Chavez a communist. In communist regimes, you do not own anything. Chavez has given more land and property to poor people than
the rest did in 40 years of democracy. He is a socialist which means he wants to help people, provide them with social services like health,
education, jobs, housing, etc. He just does not believe in the magical hand of capitalism that is supposed to help make everyting better.
Actually I am surprised an Argentinian would take your position. You more than anyone should know what happened to Argentina for listenening to the US
and the IMF. You sold everything, your public companies and resources to private companies and other countries. Your country was in bankrupcy and just
now it is starting to be a bit better. Chavez has done nothing more than help Argentina and actually people really like him there. Sounds like you are
part of the previous government