About the Vegas Killer... newest info

originally posted by: Boadicea


Title was transferred to a John W. Rogers of Roanoke, VA a mere 10 months later, which then transferred to Volant about three years later. Interesting factoid though: It would seem that John Rogers is the owner of Volant.

Yes, interesting!

Could she be the woman at the concert warning everyone that they were going to die???

Good question! Since they are not saying where they
determined she is in the picture, I am guessing it is from
security footage. Wonder if she was ever in his room?

There is also the curious fact that the gun he purchased
right before the shooting was not found in his room.

Where might it be?

The fact that police are focusing on the idea that others are involved...means they have hard evidence and rules out the 'old man flipped and went kill-crazy' theory.

It makes 'terrorism' or 'arms deal' more likely.

Not sure if this has been posted, but I found it on reddit earlier today. It's a screenshot of some people on 4chan, they talk about how Vegas is a target, and specifically why... It's dated Sept 10th.

reddit

Las Vegas Shooter Targeted Secret Government Planes In Addition To Victims

Do note that the sources are not named, and take this for what it's worth --

Law enforcement sources exclusively told RadarOnline.com that just afield of the two massive, circular fuel tanks at which Paddock fired, lies the shadowy terminal for JANET.

“JANET is essentially an airline that doesn’t exist,” a source told Radar. “It is not affiliated with any other airline.

“Insiders call it the ‘CIA’s airline,’ but, informally, it’s known as ‘JANET’ because its pilots use that identifier over air traffic control frequencies.”

“The airline mostly uses JANET as a shuttle service for military VIPs between Las Vegas and Area 51,” the source added. “The joke is that the acronym stands for Just Another Non-Existent Terminal.”

And --

“Each day many flights go from McCarran to various intelligence agency outposts, including Area 51,” she said. “But most flights go to Creech Air Force Base in Indian Springs, 35 miles northwest of Vegas.”

“Creech is where a joint US/UK program is housed for identifying drone targets in Iraq and Afghanistan or any other Middle East hot spot.”

“All of the drone attacks that have taken out enemies have been given the go-ahead by military brass at Creech.”

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Breaking: ISIS Releases New Statement on Las Vegas Shooting — ISIS TRIPLES DOWN

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Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock researched Fenway Park in Boston, investigators say

Apparently, there are no hotels overlooking the park with the necessary view/vantage point.

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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake


He planned to escape? That would explain why $100,000+ was wired to the Philippines then. Since Danley was the recipient, that also implies that she knew he was going to commit some type of crime and flee to her country to live for awhile.

I wonder if the FBI had MariLou Danley hooked up to a lie detector during her questioning today?

Do you think they're buying her excuse that he sent her away with $100,000 to buy a house and break up with her?

$100,000.00 dollars is equal to 5,115,579.25 Philippine pesos...

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake


He planned to escape? That would explain why $100,000+ was wired to the Philippines then. Since Danley was the recipient, that also implies that she knew he was going to commit some type of crime and flee to her country to live for awhile.

I wonder if the FBI had MariLou Danley hooked up to a lie detector during her questioning today?

Do you think they're buying her excuse that he sent her away with $100,000 to buy a house and break up with her?

$100,000.00 dollars is equal to 5,115,579.25 Philippine pesos...

When you consider that Paddock planned to escape, that makes her story doubtful imo.

I wonder why the police are saying that he did plan to escape. What is their evidence for that statement.?

a reply to: burntheships

Good question! Since they are not saying where they
determined she is in the picture, I am guessing it is from
security footage. Wonder if she was ever in his room?

My other thought is that she could be a paid escort, what with him sending his girlfriend away... but she would still be a valuable source of insight into the killer's actions and behavior in the days before.

But it seems odd to me also that nothing has been further investigated/reported about the woman at the concert saying everyone would die and that they were surrounded (or everywhere -- I don't remember exactly now)... not even to debunk the first claim. Not from the media and not from LE. If they do have videos of that woman entering his room or even with him around the casino and grounds, I would think the woman who described the incident at the concern would be able to identify her as the same woman. If that has in fact happened, would that be kept quiet for further investigation?

There is also the curious fact that the gun he purchased
right before the shooting was not found in his room.

Where might it be?

One poster suggested he had waiting at another location -- possibly the roof -- and intended to leave his first spot for another one and continue his spree. If Paddock was a gunrunner or straw buyer, it's possible he had already handed it off to whoever he bought it for. All speculation of course...

originally posted by: Wrapscalllion
a reply to: violet

Y'know. The old ats was a wonderful place. The modern one confuses me. ( long time lurker )It has been shown that this dude was employed by the government. Where's the ats guys going " ok. Off to the FOIA !!!!"? Old ats would have heard Jesse Marcel story , and looked at what he said , and tried to find some info. Modern ats would hear that he took a pain pill in 1932 and go " oh , BIG PHARMA !!! he was high !!! "

I don't understand.

No telling... I'm not buying the whole drug thing... My conspiracy theory goes a lot deeper. The only thing I haven't been able to theorize, yet, is a motive.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Not sure if this has been posted, but I found it on reddit earlier today. It's a screenshot of some people on 4chan, they talk about how Vegas is a target, and specifically why... It's dated Sept 10th.

reddit

Thank you! There was an ATS thread posted about that also. I should have remembered and posted it here as well -- shame on me!

I wonder if the poster has returned and confirmed or denied this is/could be the "event."

originally posted by: IAMTAT
The fact that police are focusing on the idea that others are involved...means they have hard evidence and rules out the 'old man flipped and went kill-crazy' theory.

It makes 'terrorism' or 'arms deal' more likely.

That's what I'm thinking too.

I'm also getting the feeling that the local LEOs and the Feds are working at cross purposes... and I don't like it at all... but I have nothing concrete. Just watching and waiting...

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: theantediluvian

All that you've posted doesn't point to a chap wishing to remain incognito and under the radar. I'm making an assumption here but if you were about to carry out a huge mass murder, wouldn't you want to remain quietly unobserved? Not bring attention to yourself by making noise complaints. He certainly wasn't hiding away in his room. No-one who met him or knew him has mentioned he was anxious nervous or acting strangely in fact he seems to have been acting completely "business as normal".

Now either he's a secret professional hit man with years of training, so severely mentally deranged he was able to carry out this attack without any feeling or emotion and manage to hide this side of him from friends family and his gf or he didn't have a clue what was about to go down

This has been my theory since the day after it happened. Too many holes that investigators would have had sewn up the next day. Way too many. No interviews from friends or neighbors, only the brother (who's interviews were conflicting from day 1 to day 2) and the girlfriend, who was able to write herself out of it by not talking to anyone public besides her lawyer.

Just one point on a related matter. Please, I don’t want to derail the thread but…

Amazing how they investigate this but 911 they didn’t think worthy of an investigation at all and went to great lengths to destroy all the evidence.

umm...

Lots of interesting theories, but the gun runner/arms dealer angle passes the smell test much more than the changing story we're being fed...At first, he was a regular guy with money, a girlfriend and houses....now he's transformed into a monster who descended into total madness by mainstream news.

Maybe a gun-running deal went bad, maybe he was selling to Isis for a 'fast and furious' operation as some have suggested--and maybe this whole thing was orchestrated to give the real villains time to get the hell out of MB before the cops arrived and found the patsy's body....this one could go in many directions, but with no honest media, we'll probably never know.

a reply to: Zoyd23

So you don't think he planned the slaughter in advance?

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake


He planned to escape? That would explain why $100,000+ was wired to the Philippines then. Since Danley was the recipient, that also implies that she knew he was going to commit some type of crime and flee to her country to live for awhile.

I wonder if the FBI had MariLou Danley hooked up to a lie detector during her questioning today?

Do you think they're buying her excuse that he sent her away with $100,000 to buy a house and break up with her?

$100,000.00 dollars is equal to 5,115,579.25 Philippine pesos...

When you consider that Paddock planned to escape, that makes her story doubtful imo.

I wonder why the police are saying that he did plan to escape. What is their evidence for that statement.?

Did you see the pics of the room? He had two chairs pushed together to create a firing platform near waste level. I believe he intended to address the breach from this point. He also had a weapon and ammo staged near the door... I think he likely planned to post up there and wait for police to regroup. The cameras gave him a huge advantage. There is also a stairwell near the room. I would guess that he had several go bags and he quite likely staged weapons or advantages along his escape route. I am interested in knowing what was found on the roof of the hotel if anything

originally posted by: Boadicea
“The airline mostly uses JANET as a shuttle service for military VIPs between Las Vegas and Area 51,” the source added. “The joke is that the acronym stands for Just Another Non-Existent Terminal.”

And --

“Each day many flights go from McCarran to various intelligence agency outposts, including Area 51,” she said. “But most flights go to Creech Air Force Base in Indian Springs, 35 miles northwest of Vegas."

OK, I'm now at the stage where I am above 50 per cent confident that there's a deception and distraction strategy in play. Linking the shooting to Area 51 looks like a classic "UFO smear" gambit, that effectively shuts down an entire debate by discrediting all non-orthodox stances by associating them with flying saucer fanatics.

All the other stuff, the multiple homes, deliberately-confused identities, the money, was just weird. This new dimension is actively suspicious.

And while I'm sure it's been reported in good faith, I think it speaks volumes that someone spoke anonymously to RadarOnline.com to nudge them toward this.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake


He planned to escape? That would explain why $100,000+ was wired to the Philippines then. Since Danley was the recipient, that also implies that she knew he was going to commit some type of crime and flee to her country to live for awhile.

I wonder if the FBI had MariLou Danley hooked up to a lie detector during her questioning today?

Do you think they're buying her excuse that he sent her away with $100,000 to buy a house and break up with her?

$100,000.00 dollars is equal to 5,115,579.25 Philippine pesos...

When you consider that Paddock planned to escape, that makes her story doubtful imo.

I wonder why the police are saying that he did plan to escape. What is their evidence for that statement.?

Exactly... We can't even get a motive out of this. Everything they're telling us is full of holes from top to bottom and nothing adds up.

originally posted by: Willtell
Just one point on a related matter. Please, I don’t want to derail the thread but…

Amazing how they investigate this but 911 they didn’t think worthy of an investigation at all and went to great lengths to destroy all the evidence.

umm...

We had everything we needed to know on the people involved in 9/11 within a few days. Hell, we always have all the info we need within a couple days except this time... Something is very fishy.

originally posted by: Boadicea

I'm also getting the feeling that the local LEOs and the Feds are working at cross purposes... and I don't like it at all... but I have nothing concrete. Just watching and waiting...

I'm definitely getting this feeling. The sheriff is trying to be as forthcoming as he can, while the Feds... have they told us anything at all?

If this turns out to be another Fast & Furious type deal, then the DOJ will have hell to pay.