About the Vegas Killer... newest info

a reply to: Boadicea

Well, his neigbors in Reno didn't consider him all that friendly

And yet his neighbor said he was very trusting and he handed him a key to his house when they met and told him he could use any of his new equipment.

Las Vegas Shooter Did Not Act Alone – FBI States Multiple Leads Around The World – Paddock Planned Jet Fuel Blast.

Another suggestion that he was a gunrunner:

FBI reports there are many significant leads around the world with many flights taken by more than one person all over the world. Possibly, and this is just my opinion, many of Paddocks gambling trips could have been a cover for arms deals and terrorist connections. Was he gunrunner who sold guns to jihadists?

Sheriff: Vegas gunman booked room in condo facing Life Is Beautiful festival, headlined by Chance The Rapper & Lorde.

That event was held Sep 22 – Sep 25.

There's a pic at the link illustrating his line of sight from his hotel room to the tanks at the airport, as well as to the concert venue.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Interesting... was that a Reno neighbor?

Anything more specific on what kind of equipment?

originally posted by: Willtell
Another idea…. Conspiracy level

Recall the alleged killer of MLK, James Earl Ray. He claimed a guy named Raul set him up by telling him to buy a gun, get a hotel room, do this and do that, all just to set him up as a patsy.


This case may be similar on a higher level. Is it possible some sinister secret cabal could have got this guy to buy these guns and tell him: Okay get in that hotel we'll be there.

Any thing could have happened from there

There’s just no rational reason or even irrational reason given yet for this guys actions

Definitely a possibility.
I wonder if Paddock would have fallen for the setup, being in a hotel room...if he really was a spook type gun runner?
What I mean is, why do a deal in a hotel room with 23 guns (and not small ones) when you could meet in a place that was easier to move the guns into, like even a motel outside of Las Vegas?

a reply to: butcherguy

Our problem is that the MSM IF this guy has intel connections or some other sinister associations, they’ll never tell us.


I just don’t believe a retired millionaire gambler would do something like this

Remember Leeland Yee?

Accused of dealing firearms and a weapons deal worth upwards
Of 2.5 mil from a Muslim group in the Phillipines. Undercover FBI
agents in the mix.

Ex CA State Senator was a Democrat now in jail serving 5 years.

He plead guilty.

Hmmmmm

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: NerdGoddess

Well the 200+ reports, I don't personally find unsual, especially for a man as wealthy as he seemed to be and his brother claims he was. Any cash transaction over 10k to my knowledge legally has to be documented and reported.

Unfortunately, they don't differentiate between the legally mandated financial transaction reports, and the suspicious activity reports. They don't even explain what might constitute such suspicious activity. I think that's what we need to know more about before we can come to any conclusions one way or another.

Thank you for pointing that out, I agree!

-Alee

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: theantediluvian

There is no such thing as a successful professional video poker player, and anyone that gambles either for fun or for a living will tell you the same.

Not true. There are people who make their living playing video poker. They are hard to find but some machines if you play correct strategy at max bet then you have an expected payout of over 100% over time. Even 98 or 99% machines can be profitable with free play/comps with a players card. To the earlier comment about where Paddock would stare at somebody playing a machine - it could be that a person was playing one of those positive expectation machines so he's waiting to play it as the others are negative expectation.

I’m watching MSNBC and their claiming he lurked around researching other music concerts around the country.

So they say, most of his guns were brought in the last year, 33 of them.

All of these guns. WHY ?
WHY secretly stack guns?

Did he go to shooting ranges? None of his friends say anything about guns, nor his girlfriend

So the guy harbored for years a secret desire to buy a bunch of guns, explosives and shot up concerts

Makes very little sense

a reply to: NerdGoddess

Is it any wonder we don't trust the MSM? It's difficult to believe that "suspicious" wouldn't set off every red flag for any reporter worth their salt. So when it doesn't... and they just kind of bury it with routine red tape type stuff instead... that alone makes one wonder why!

this is also noteworthy....
An eyewitness and her partner saw security chasing a person of interest
That was also wearing a security vest ....

Wendy Miller from Cooroy, on the Sunshine Coast, was also caught up in the attack.

She was at a bar in the nearby Luxor Hotel with her husband when she saw what she described as a “man of interest” run by.

“We managed to make our way back to our room…” she told The Courier-Mail.

“We are in lock down.

“Our door is dead locked and a chair against the door.”

Ms Miller said the man sprinted through her hotel after coming off an escalator from the Mandalay Bay.

“The man that they [security] were chasing was wearing a security jacket like them,” she said.

edit on 5-10-2017 by burntheships because: (no reason given)

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What I mean is, why do a deal in a hotel room with 23 guns (and not small ones) when you could meet in a place that was easier to move the guns into, like even a motel outside of Las Vegas?"

I believe the busy casino life on The Strip would be easier to do this. You blend in. A motel out in the desert people notice and remember things.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Xcathdra

Except for the fact he worked for the Federal government, including the DoD.

Do you know what kind of background checks would be performed for an Auditor for the DoD? What kind of security clearance would be needed?

I'm seeing people make "big" connections from the fact that early in his career, when he seems to be taking contract jobs, he worked for a DoD contractor. I can't say that is a "big tipoff" to me since at approximately that same time I was employed as a contractor to the US Army at Ft. Knox. Yes, I had to undergo a background check because I was going to be in areas considered "classified" on the base. As an auditor, I would think that his background check would cover financial background---that is, that he wasn't heavily indebted on paper or connected to the the target of the audit. Just because someone worked for/as a contract worker on a government project does not necessarily mean that they are "connected" to that government agency. It means the government had a task that needed doing and the person/business who put in the best bid got the contract to do that job. (The DoD needed an auditor---he was an accountant. Ft. Knox needed an archaeological survey, I was an archaeologist.)

Or maybe I'm way off base and he took the opportunity to become a spook...at this point I'm just totally confused. I just want the story to add up and at this point, without a lot more information I'm finding it impossible to make sense of....just like those poor LV cops. Bless them all. I can't even begin to imagine what they are going through at this time.

I'm still interested in the plane angle...where is his plane? Was it gassed up and ready to go on Sunday night? Did he use some of his cash to go to Mexico and buy/lease a hide-out where he could get a new identity and sit back and watch them try to find him? Too many questions and we're all over anxious to find answers.

ETA: I did info saying that he didn't pass his medical test to renew his pilot's license but would that have really stopped him from jumping into the plane and taking off---considering that he has just committed mass murder---would he really be worried about a lapsed pilot's license?

a reply to: dreamingawake

Lyrics
Some days it's tough just gettin' up
Throwin' on these boots and makin' that climb
Some days I'd rather be a no-show lay-low 'fore I go outta my mind.

Jason Aldean - When She Says Baby

ATS: BAD NEWS - Las Vegas Mass Murderer Stephen Paddock Fits No Existing Terrorist Profile

The bolded part are the last lyrics sung before the shooting started (as I point out in the next post).

a reply to: butcherguy
a reply to: Willtell

When I thought it was confirmed that the killer had videotaped himself, as well as the FBI declaring no terrorist connections or accomplices, I had discounted the idea of him being set up or controlled in some way. Now that I know neither of those two things are true, and knowing what a strange bird he was (to say the least!), I'm really wondering about possible connections and other shooters myself.

Is it possible that he didn't commit the deed at all? Could he have even been killed prior to the start of the shooting but set up to make it seem he did it and then committed suicide?

I'd like to know more about the international connections and leads and witnesses that LE spoke to...

a reply to: burntheships
I saw a report or heard a report of that and of a man dressed in camo with a backpack being arrested nearby. Haven't heard any follow-up on that. The dude in camo with a backpack took me back to the Sandy Hook (guy in the woods) episode.

It would make sense would it not---if you were going to try to get away---dressing up like a security guard or a cop might do the trick. (For his helpers---if there were on-site assistants as many have speculated.) I don't know what to believe but I'm not sure I trust all these folks who are calling in to talk shows, etc. Too many out there wanting their 15 minutes.

a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah, that's right - Rogers and Volant are connected.
I can't find any link to USH Inc though - as you mention that seems to be University Student Housing Inc. Surprised they would need a plane, but who knows.

a reply to: Boadicea

Absolutely that could have been the case. Supposedly, some security man without a gun goes up to the room (he must be the bravest man in history) and the killer shoots 200 rounds at him.

200 rounds? How, through the door?

Oh but the guy has cameras in the hallway

Yeah sure…

Then this security guard allegedly points the police to the room where the killer is and they enter and the guy is dead.


That’s a BS story if I ever heard one.

Look this guy is a sophisticated man. A millionaire who has likely traveled the world.


It looks like there going to 911 this story.


The LV police even lied and said he collected most of the guns over many years then they say he brought most of them a year ago

What is the truth ?

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Supposedly he cased out two other cities and chose Las Vegas this concert. anybody believe this?