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About the Vegas Killer... newest info

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posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

What were the other two?

That is not the act of somebody who "snapped" if true.




posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
Remember Leeland Yee?


I sure do. It's because of guys like him that we know this crap does happen... and we have to consider it may be happening here.


Accused of dealing firearms and a weapons deal worth upwards
Of 2.5 mil from a Muslim group in the Phillipines. Undercover FBI
agents in the mix.


I have always thought he was just the one chosen to take the fall and that there was far more to it -- and far more people involved. Like Kamala Harris.

A guilty plea ensures no discovery takes place.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: carewemust

What were the other two?

That is not the act of somebody who "snapped" if true.



I don't know about the other one, but according to the Media (not that I believe much that is coming from them) he allegedly staked out Chicago. To be honest, this sounds like a red herring meant to distract from the people who really planned this out...I still believe he was a patsy.


Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock booked rooms in a Chicago hotel facing the Lollapalooza music festival in August, a law enforcement official told USA TODAY on Thursday.

Paddock, 64, booked one room at the Blackstone Hotel starting Aug. 1, two days before the festival opened. He booked a second room Aug. 3. The Blackstone confirmed in a statement that rooms were booked in Paddock's name during Lollapalooza but that he did not stay there on those dates.

Both rooms had a checkout date of Aug. 6, corresponding with the final day of the music festival that drew tens of thousands of concertgoers to Grant Park alongside Lake Michigan. It was unclear if Paddock was in Chicago during the festival, according to the law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

The lineup for the festival included artists Lorde, Chance the Rapper and Arcade Fire. Among the attendees at the festival was former President Obama’s daughter, Malia. Some 100,000 people turned out each day for the event, according to local media.

www.usatoday.com... 4824001/



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

Payout tables have everything to do with a machines payout percentage and that's about all.


Yes.


There is no such thing as a successful professional video poker player, and anyone that gambles either for fun or for a living will tell you the same.


Obviously casinos aren't in the business of operating games for a loss. There have been ways of exploiting rewards systems in the past that I'm aware of that but they tend to be short lived and tied to some promotion or ill conceived policy. I've also know some straight up cheats but's that another thing altogether.

That said, it really depends on your definition of "successful." For a lot of people, the way they look at it is that they're essentially "getting their money back" in comps or at least offsetting it enough that they're happy to keep going back. It depends on what you value. If you're the sort of person who will throw down $200-$300 a night for a room in AC anyway and your thing is to go to the shore every weekend during the summer, you might be able to justify dropping a couple grand in a bad month because you're spending 8-10 days a month in a comped suite all summer, eating and drinking in the player's lounges, getting food credits, comps, and having your room charges written off by a host, etc.


I'm honestly curious about the isis correlation myself, they have a big presence in the Philippines.


Eh. Anything is possible but it doesn't seem likely to me. It seems like the only things pointing to this are ISIS claiming responsibility — and they have a history of claiming responsibility for things they had nothing to do with — and the fact that his gf is Filipino. Has anyone even ascertained if the gf is a Muslim or not?

Personally, I think it's going to have something to do with him feeling slighted for some reason or another, finances or some mix of the two and quite possibly related to his gambling lifestyle.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Agreed, I do not think Yee was the only perp.
Harris...was she DA then?
Good point!

Paddock has an interesting tie to Volant.
One of his planes was registered to Volant
On August 31, 2013.

So did he sell the plane to them?

Tail # N5343M

archive.li...

The mystery woman he was seen with days before could offer some
clues, unless she was just a fly at the casino.

I lean towards the idea he had contact with some very bad people.
Who they are? I hope more info is released soon.




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posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: diggindirt


I'm seeing people make "big" connections from the fact that early in his career, when he seems to be taking contract jobs, he worked for a DoD contractor.... As an auditor, I would think that his background check would cover financial background---that is, that he wasn't heavily indebted on paper or connected to the the target of the audit.


Thank you -- that's what I've been thinking. The work he performed does not seem to be related to national security, or even sensitive operations, so I didn't think he would be subject to an extensive background check.


Or maybe I'm way off base and he took the opportunity to become a spook...


Anything is possible... but there's nothing I have seen that indicates he did.


...at this point I'm just totally confused. I just want the story to add up and at this point, without a lot more information I'm finding it impossible to make sense of....


I think we're all having the same trouble! The misinformation (and dare I say disinformation?) sure isn't helping.


...just like those poor LV cops. Bless them all. I can't even begin to imagine what they are going through at this time.


Yes. God love 'em and bless 'em and hold 'em and keep 'em.


ETA: I did info saying that he didn't pass his medical test to renew his pilot's license but would that have really stopped him from jumping into the plane and taking off---considering that he has just committed mass murder---would he really be worried about a lapsed pilot's license?


At that point, nothing he did could make it worse... that's for sure.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Supposedly he cased out two other cities and chose Las Vegas this concert. anybody believe this?


The MSM is saying one in LV and one here in Chicago.

I think the MSM is introducing as many red herrings as possible.

And in fact, we as regular people don't know if the name "Stephen Paddock" is even the real shooter do we.

All the "proof" is all coming from MSM reports.

Like I said a couple of days ago, it's all about what the MSM is NOT publishing.




posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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Maybe the real "Stephen Paddock" is in witness protection.

He may have blown the whistle on somebody.

Perfect "Name" to use.




posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
I’m watching MSNBC and their claiming he lurked around researching other music concerts around the country.


Yes, I've seen a couple such reports also. One was Lollapalooza in Chicago, and another in Vegas the week before he checked into Mandalay Bay. In Chicago, he apparently reserved the rooms and then was a no-show. In Vegas, it appears that he did in fact stay at the rooms he reserved at another hotel, but I'm not positive about that. Perhaps there are more I haven't heard of.


So they say, most of his guns were brought in the last year, 33 of them.

All of these guns. WHY ?
WHY secretly stack guns?


That does seem to indicate he was building up for something specific -- at least to me. As opposed to just gradually increasing his collection over the years.


Did he go to shooting ranges? None of his friends say anything about guns, nor his girlfriend


I've only seen one "friend" mention his arsenal and a huge gun room for it, and that person was identified as someone dating the sister of the killer's girlfriend.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DBCowboy


Since people started smoking weed and going out and picking fights.




Which happened the 3rd of NEVUARY... I'd opine if the shooter had collected different strains of Cannabis instead of different brand guns in different calibers, We wouldn't be typing this dialogue...

The last thing any 'weed smoker' wants is somebody hassling them. They 'may' certainly "pick" the wrong type foods to eat while under the spell, but they wouldn't pick a fight...

When You read about somebody getting caught w/copious drugs and then You read they also possessed MJ that is there to get them feeling 'right' after ingesting ALL the poisons e.g. meth.; hairOn; Rx poisons; etc.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Spread the fear, huh?

Well let's take a look.

Country concert? Not safe. Pop singer, Arianna Grande? Nope, not safe. Heavy metal show, Eagles of Deathmetal? Not there either. What is left? Heck, Dimebag was the start.

Can't go to concerts, can't go to the movies, and now it is cities we have to be concerned about.

"Spread the fear", I would think the magic 8 ball says, "All signs point towards 'Yes'"




posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Boadicea

Absolutely that could have been the case. Supposedly, some security man without a gun goes up to the room (he must be the bravest man in history) and the killer shoots 200 rounds at him.

200 rounds? How, through the door?


Yeah, that's just not adding up the more I read about it. When I get a chance, I'm going to track that whole story down -- from start to finish. All the changes in the story... the timeline of changes... all of it. Something's there.


Oh but the guy has cameras in the hallway

Yeah sure…


There were pics I saw that seemed to show the camera kinda sorta strategically placed under dirty dishes on a food cart... but now we're told they weren't working.... but not told why. Was there some kind of malfunction? Or was it just a decoy?


The LV police even lied and said he collected most of the guns over many years then they say he brought most of them a year ago

What is the truth ?


This may just be my own confirmation bias, but I'm suspicious of what the Feds/FBI are demanding, or otherwise interfering in the investigation and release of information.

Is that why the photos of the hotel room were released by someone? Were they trying to preclude a cover-up in progress? I'm sure this is quite personal for the local LE. I don't know of course... just thinking out loud.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Supposedly he cased out two other cities and chose Las Vegas this concert. anybody believe this?


I don't dis-believe it yet...

As I understand it, he reserved the room overseeing Lollapalooza in Chicago, but was a no-show. He reserved the room for the Life festival in Vegas, and did stay in that room... perhaps until checking into the Mandalay Bay. If I read which hotel that was, I'm not remembering now.

If this is true, it would seem he wasn't really targeting anyone in specific. It was the event itself -- he didn't give a damn who he hurt/maimed/killed.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

This was an attack that was planned and planned for quite awhile. There is talk about him targeting multiple other events but I think that is a distraction. Especially when I read an article that said he could have targeted former POTUS O in Chicago at Lallapolooza. It immediately takes the narrative from a "leftie killing country conservatives" . Stating he also staked out a 'rap' concert. Again, little bits that are fed to the masses.

The police and leaks are non-existent and tooo silent. All of them. The cops when talking I know are tired but looked scared. As if there is something still in play almost. I mean, after the Pulse and SB shootings the media was walking around in their homes...remember that weirdness? Finding ID's and such. This guy is a ghost...



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Boadicea

Paddock has an interesting tie to Volant.
One of his planes was registered to Volant
On August 31, 2013.

So did he sell the plane to them?


According to FlightAware website, Paddock sold it to "USH Inc" -- which I believe is University Student Housing, Inc., which matches up foreign students with host families and/or living quarters here. Title was transferred to a John W. Rogers of Roanoke, VA a mere 10 months later, which then transferred to Volant about three years later. Interesting factoid though: It would seem that John Rogers is the owner of Volant.


The mystery woman he was seen with days before could offer some
clues, unless she was just a fly at the casino.


Could she be the woman at the concert warning everyone that they were going to die???



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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Explain to me why Paddock had a huge gun room and only 17 were recovered at his home ?

That doesn't even fill a gun safe with the ones recovered there and Vegas.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
Explain to me why Paddock had a huge gun room and only 17 were recovered at his home ?

That doesn't even fill a gun safe with the ones recovered there and Vegas.

He was a gun runner. All the missing guns are in the hands of drug cartels, ISIS, or God-knows-who else.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 03:04 PM
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On Monday this bomb squad arrived to check the home for booby traps ahead of a search by the FBI and ATF. A large black box was seized, as well as some of Paddock's 47 guns Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Where the hell did they get huge gun room at ?

Talk about snippy reporting.



n total, police have found 47 guns across three locations - the house in Verdi, a second home in Mesquite, and the hotel room that Paddock used to fire on civilians. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

I started wondering about SSRIs immediately. Valium seems too tame. If there is a link, forget banning guns and ban that awful crap.

There is no "snap" involved in this act. The silence is telling too. It's saying, "Nice sheeple of America. Trust us." The "why" they are sending out that message is scary in its implications.

I'm only allotting just a small part of time to what we are being told. I am sure there are people watching "news" 24-hours a day. I personally like to "think for myself" and staying out of the whole narrative as it is being laid out. But others, having learned it from 9/11, are comfortable curling up in front of the TV like it is a security blanket.

Thanks to all for the info! Back to my boring day.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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Paddock had bought a total of 33 weapons between October last year and when he checked in the Mandalay Bay suit on September 28. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


This definititely would have raised red flags at the BATFE, and the FBI.

The FBI does the federal background check and has to preapprove 'assault weapon' purchases.
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