About the Vegas Killer... newest info

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: xuenchen

Couldn't those be people running from the concert into casino's nearby OR people who heard the shots at the concert and a panic ensued?
I did not hear any gunfire in those videos.

Both are not far away (a few blocks), and some people were running from the shooting area.

And I know one person was actually shot and wounded at Caesars.

Shots were fired at Aria, but no victims.

I get this from somebody that knows. Both were handguns.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: xuenchen

Couldn't those be people running from the concert into casino's nearby OR people who heard the shots at the concert and a panic ensued?
I did not hear any gunfire in those videos.

Both are not far away (a few blocks), and some people were running from the shooting area.

And I know one person was actually shot and wounded at Caesars.

Shots were fired at Aria, but no victims.

I get this from somebody that knows. Both were handguns.

Not one was shot at Ceasars and no shots were fired at the Aria as part of the events of the other night.
I woudl ask you have prove this because knowing someone says so isnt good enough.

Have you ever been to Vegas?
If either of the events you mentioned were true their would be videos of it everywhere.

Not sure of anything at this point...but he may have been involved in planning this attack from the beginning. But for me, the idea that 60+ year old with no violent past just snaps and shoots 500+ people doesn't seem too logical. He had a good life and was not hiding his actions at the hotel...even called to the front desk to complain, which doesn't seem to fit the idea that he had planned this massive, complex event....everything just seems a bit off...and as the media keeps changing stories, it's harder and harder to tell what really happened. I tune into ATS to see what the smart folks have to say...

Just a note a rich people, and multiple houses.

We have a good friend that mows lawns. He has a key to this house, that is owned by a very, very rich man. It is out in the middle of nowhere, between two small towns. He doesn't live there and there is no furniture in it. It is a two story, beautiful, huge home. The only thing in it? Stuffed animals he has shot. His wife wouldn't let him have them in their home, so he built this house, just for them, and it is full.

So, While the house is a great investment, some rich people do crazy things with houses. This guy had it built just for the trophies.

Funny, while there are so many things that bother me about the "official" story with this, the stories about how many houses and what he kept in them doesn't bother me.

I appreciate the thread. It's nice to find all the "facts" being released.
I just worry we are only getting what they want us to know, truth or not.

And did anyone else notice the news is spinning the "Cache of guns?" I wonder if a limit is coming?

a reply to: opethPA

I lived in LV for 20+ years.

I know every hotel and casino in that area very well.

But no, I can't prove anything because it's "classified" and the MSM isn't reporting.

Believe what you want, but be very careful how you interpret the MSM stories being published.

I also know many people had their cell phones taken at Caesars and Aria.

There were also shots fired inside the Bellagio, no victims.

Bellagio was on lockdown for about 4 hours.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: xuenchen

Couldn't those be people running from the concert into casino's nearby OR people who heard the shots at the concert and a panic ensued?
I did not hear any gunfire in those videos.

Both are not far away (a few blocks), and some people were running from the shooting area.

And I know one person was actually shot and wounded at Caesars.

Shots were fired at Aria, but no victims.

I get this from somebody that knows. Both were handguns.

OK, interesting.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: xuenchen

Couldn't those be people running from the concert into casino's nearby OR people who heard the shots at the concert and a panic ensued?
I did not hear any gunfire in those videos.

I would say that anything is possible, but that's probably not likely. There's a map of the Strip and Casinos here. Sorry I don't know how to embed it in the thread.

Mandalay Bay is pretty much at the southernmost end of the Strip. There are five hotels/resorts between Mandalay Bay and the Aria to the north -- Luxor, Excaliber, New York-New York, Monte Carlo, and Mandarin. And those aren't small properties. There are three more properties between the Aria and Caesar's Palace -- including the Bellagio. According to Trip Advisor, it's 1.7 miles between Mandalay Bay and Caesars Palace, with the Aria a little more than halfway in between. I doubt that folks fleeing the shooter would have run that far for cover... nor that those inside would even hear the gunshots at Mandalay -- much less think Paddock was in their immediate presence.

If you watched the videos, did you happen to notice time stamps on them?

This is a very interesting thread. The first one I've read right through for quite a while. Lots of hints about what Paddock was up to in his private, money making, life. Guns (running?), gambling (to launder money?), houses (to run a scam on the government?), Filipino GF (to make trips there "normal"?). DoD connections.

I don't know if the shooting was a plot with others involved, but I know I would need plenty of help just living this guy's life.

a reply to: UKTruth

This map shows the hotels....

Caesars is about a mile and a half away, Aria about a mile.

Strip Map

a reply to: xuenchen


So what do you think went down?
Those may have been distractions.

One thing is for sure, if this was a FF, it was ideal.

And there no way in the world we’ll ever know this guy wasn’t just killed and placed in that room.

Set up to buy these guns as a patsy

Wheres the videos of him walking around the hotel with all those guns?

They have a video of OJ going to do his robbery. Wheres any video of this guy

a reply to: Boadicea

Most of those hotels are owned by MGM too.

a reply to: DBCowboy

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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Who can do THAT?
It's to MELLOW me not gun me up.
AND I have all the bad symptoms too ,Cavalry scout ,organic brain damage detest most humanity...and I STILL hate the noise and mess more than violence.

OH wait, I'm LOUD and garish ,so THAT doesn't fit also that CODE thing prevents me harming people who aren't attacking anything...AND I'M NOT into SKIN or MARXISM so THAT 's no good.

a reply to: xuenchen

Do you know what is being told to those who witnessed the shootings at the other casinos? I know there was a call put out for anyone with video to turn it in... and apparently they've already confiscated what they could?

Any idea if it's the local LEOs or the Feds? Both?

This guy could have been easily set up, and it could have been over the years.

Ask by some “government” agents to not only buy those guns but also launder money gambling.

“Hey buddy want to help us out on a secret mission”

This is called a sleeper cell agent that can be activated as a patsy at any time just like Oswald and those Arab dopes on 911

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: opethPA

I lived in LV for 20+ years.

I know every hotel and casino in that area very well.

But no, I can't prove anything because it's "classified" and the MSM isn't reporting.

Believe what you want, but be very careful how you interpret the MSM stories being published.

I also know many people had their cell phones taken at Caesars and Aria.

There were also shots fired inside the Bellagio, no victims.

Bellagio was on lockdown for about 4 hours.

I know exactly who did it also but the classified sources from my past have asked me to keep it quiet.

lets assume for a min that lots of people had their cell phones taken at Caesars and Aria..Lots is not all and not 1 single video of anything you are claiming has surfaced.

Multiple casinos were on lockdown that night ..you know..because their was a shooting going on.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: opethPA

I lived in LV for 20+ years.

I know every hotel and casino in that area very well.

But no, I can't prove anything because it's "classified" and the MSM isn't reporting.

Believe what you want, but be very careful how you interpret the MSM stories being published.

I also know many people had their cell phones taken at Caesars and Aria.

There were also shots fired inside the Bellagio, no victims.

Bellagio was on lockdown for about 4 hours.

Still find it difficult to believe - with social media and instant-news, unless every person you see running in that video was apprehended by the FBI and "debriefed," I think there would have CERTAINLY been news by now. Someone would have socialized it.. and it would be huge news. Just knowing someone who says they got shot.. and apparently you have inside info about media sources that can't report the news for some reason, what proof is there?

Why would it even be a secret? Makes no sense.

a reply to: Willtell

And there no way in the world we’ll ever know this guy wasn’t just killed and placed in that room.

Set up to buy these guns as a patsy

I haven't nailed this down yet, but from reading the timeline, it seems possible that there was enough time -- a couple minutes at least -- between the time of the last known shots fired to when the first cop reported being in the stairwell outside Paddock's hotel room -- for someone to have killed Paddock and escaped via the stairs. The cops would have been coming up, so the perps couldn't have gone down the stairs. But would anything have stopped them from going to an upper floor, and escaping that way?

If so, then I would assume that the security guard who was shot would have seen them... is that why we haven't heard too much from him? Or too much about what exactly happened? And why there are seeming discrepancies in what we have heard?

5 Glaring Inconsistencies In The Vegas Shooting That Need To Be Addressed

Here's 1: Tell me please. How a person walks around LAS VEGAS that has cameras EVERYWHERE carrying bags of guns and there’s not one video of this individual!

In most mass shootings, within 24 hours we usually see at least a still image of the perpetrator as captured by the building’s surveillance cameras. In Paddock’s case, as of the time this article was published, none of this footage has been released.

Question for anyone and everyone who has seen the pics of the crime scene: There is a diagram of the suite Paddock occupied here. The pic shows the locations of the two windows that were broken out.

Can anyone tell me where exactly in the suite the police found his body?