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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: alienjuggalo
Then why did the 59 year old run?
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: alienjuggalo
Then why did the 59 year old run?
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: real_one
It scares me that you're in law enforcement and consider this murder victim's actions as "not fully complying". Glad I don't live in your town.
Simple question here... did he reach inside his jacket or not?
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: amazing
How cute of you to convict me based off my comments here. You should try reading some of the other PC forum threads I've commented in. I'm more than happy to call a cop out for wrong doing, when I think they've done wrong. Like this cop in this OP, being guilty of voluntary manslaughter. I can only presume that you haven't bothered to go look at how murder is defined in Pennsylvania, thus your reluctance to let go of the murder idea.
Guess the fact yes, I am indeed an active LEO, and am not only an active LEO but have arrested more than one "fellow" cop would certainly buttress your claim that I'm afraid to cross that blue line and am just as guilty as the rest.
Sorry bub. I don't have jurisdiction in New York. I can't go arrest the cop that choked Eric Garner to death, much as I may want to. Doesn't make me a bad cop though.
haha "choked Eric Garner to death". Eric Garner stroked out from spazzing out for several minutes while weighing 400 # plus. After breaking the same crime for about the 40th time. A true victim.
I guess we need to take your words of wisdom over those of Bo Dietl. Yah, fer sher.
Have you seen the video. That guy choked him to death for no reason. Murdered him. and I've got news for you Bo Dietl is a scumbag who wouldn't cross the blue line if he saw a cop raping a nun.
Literally nothing you've said here has any accuracy or worth whatsoever.
No choke hold. No death from choke. No murder. Bo Dietl was a great, respected, celebrated cop and detective.
You can't be "right" by just spewing unrelated, random claims that are completely false and fake. It doesn't really work that way.
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: amazing
How cute of you to convict me based off my comments here. You should try reading some of the other PC forum threads I've commented in. I'm more than happy to call a cop out for wrong doing, when I think they've done wrong. Like this cop in this OP, being guilty of voluntary manslaughter. I can only presume that you haven't bothered to go look at how murder is defined in Pennsylvania, thus your reluctance to let go of the murder idea.
Guess the fact yes, I am indeed an active LEO, and am not only an active LEO but have arrested more than one "fellow" cop would certainly buttress your claim that I'm afraid to cross that blue line and am just as guilty as the rest.
Sorry bub. I don't have jurisdiction in New York. I can't go arrest the cop that choked Eric Garner to death, much as I may want to. Doesn't make me a bad cop though.
haha "choked Eric Garner to death". Eric Garner stroked out from spazzing out for several minutes while weighing 400 # plus. After breaking the same crime for about the 40th time. A true victim.
I guess we need to take your words of wisdom over those of Bo Dietl. Yah, fer sher.
Have you seen the video. That guy choked him to death for no reason. Murdered him. and I've got news for you Bo Dietl is a scumbag who wouldn't cross the blue line if he saw a cop raping a nun.
Literally nothing you've said here has any accuracy or worth whatsoever.
No choke hold. No death from choke. No murder. Bo Dietl was a great, respected, celebrated cop and detective.
You can't be "right" by just spewing unrelated, random claims that are completely false and fake. It doesn't really work that way.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: alienjuggalo
I don't disagree on either account.
originally posted by: alienjuggalo
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: alienjuggalo
Then why did the 59 year old run?
Because he was an idiot lol.. Did not deserve to die though
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: amazing
How cute of you to convict me based off my comments here. You should try reading some of the other PC forum threads I've commented in. I'm more than happy to call a cop out for wrong doing, when I think they've done wrong. Like this cop in this OP, being guilty of voluntary manslaughter. I can only presume that you haven't bothered to go look at how murder is defined in Pennsylvania, thus your reluctance to let go of the murder idea.
Guess the fact yes, I am indeed an active LEO, and am not only an active LEO but have arrested more than one "fellow" cop would certainly buttress your claim that I'm afraid to cross that blue line and am just as guilty as the rest.
Sorry bub. I don't have jurisdiction in New York. I can't go arrest the cop that choked Eric Garner to death, much as I may want to. Doesn't make me a bad cop though.
haha "choked Eric Garner to death". Eric Garner stroked out from spazzing out for several minutes while weighing 400 # plus. After breaking the same crime for about the 40th time. A true victim.
I guess we need to take your words of wisdom over those of Bo Dietl. Yah, fer sher.
Have you seen the video. That guy choked him to death for no reason. Murdered him. and I've got news for you Bo Dietl is a scumbag who wouldn't cross the blue line if he saw a cop raping a nun.
Literally nothing you've said here has any accuracy or worth whatsoever.
No choke hold. No death from choke. No murder. Bo Dietl was a great, respected, celebrated cop and detective.
You can't be "right" by just spewing unrelated, random claims that are completely false and fake. It doesn't really work that way.
And literally nothing you've said has any bearing on the fact that the cop used a hold that NYPD has told officers not to use.
Lulz.
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: amazing
How cute of you to convict me based off my comments here. You should try reading some of the other PC forum threads I've commented in. I'm more than happy to call a cop out for wrong doing, when I think they've done wrong. Like this cop in this OP, being guilty of voluntary manslaughter. I can only presume that you haven't bothered to go look at how murder is defined in Pennsylvania, thus your reluctance to let go of the murder idea.
Guess the fact yes, I am indeed an active LEO, and am not only an active LEO but have arrested more than one "fellow" cop would certainly buttress your claim that I'm afraid to cross that blue line and am just as guilty as the rest.
Sorry bub. I don't have jurisdiction in New York. I can't go arrest the cop that choked Eric Garner to death, much as I may want to. Doesn't make me a bad cop though.
haha "choked Eric Garner to death". Eric Garner stroked out from spazzing out for several minutes while weighing 400 # plus. After breaking the same crime for about the 40th time. A true victim.
I guess we need to take your words of wisdom over those of Bo Dietl. Yah, fer sher.
Have you seen the video. That guy choked him to death for no reason. Murdered him. and I've got news for you Bo Dietl is a scumbag who wouldn't cross the blue line if he saw a cop raping a nun.
Literally nothing you've said here has any accuracy or worth whatsoever.
No choke hold. No death from choke. No murder. Bo Dietl was a great, respected, celebrated cop and detective.
You can't be "right" by just spewing unrelated, random claims that are completely false and fake. It doesn't really work that way.
And literally nothing you've said has any bearing on the fact that the cop used a hold that NYPD has told officers not to use.
Lulz.
Dietl said "not a chokehold" based on several logical, intelligent facts. He doesn't "become wrong" just because you hate him. He just makes you wrong.
The cop did try to horse collar Garner and throw him to the ground, because well, I guess waltzing around with a 400 # guy wasn't the best alternative. Even a headlock is not a chokehold. I think you missed by at least 2 degrees of "choke" here.
Think I'll go with the explanations of a decorated, respected 30-year cop, over yours. Even if you're armed with many a "Lulz". Though those things are certainly formidable.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: stevieray
Ah the old "I know you are but what am I?" style of debate.
He's not wrong you're wrong because I say you're wrong!
Whatever dude.
originally posted by: alienjuggalo
If it wasnt an effing choke hold then why did he choke to death?
originally posted by: alienjuggalo
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: amazing
How cute of you to convict me based off my comments here. You should try reading some of the other PC forum threads I've commented in. I'm more than happy to call a cop out for wrong doing, when I think they've done wrong. Like this cop in this OP, being guilty of voluntary manslaughter. I can only presume that you haven't bothered to go look at how murder is defined in Pennsylvania, thus your reluctance to let go of the murder idea.
Guess the fact yes, I am indeed an active LEO, and am not only an active LEO but have arrested more than one "fellow" cop would certainly buttress your claim that I'm afraid to cross that blue line and am just as guilty as the rest.
Sorry bub. I don't have jurisdiction in New York. I can't go arrest the cop that choked Eric Garner to death, much as I may want to. Doesn't make me a bad cop though.
haha "choked Eric Garner to death". Eric Garner stroked out from spazzing out for several minutes while weighing 400 # plus. After breaking the same crime for about the 40th time. A true victim.
I guess we need to take your words of wisdom over those of Bo Dietl. Yah, fer sher.
Have you seen the video. That guy choked him to death for no reason. Murdered him. and I've got news for you Bo Dietl is a scumbag who wouldn't cross the blue line if he saw a cop raping a nun.
Literally nothing you've said here has any accuracy or worth whatsoever.
No choke hold. No death from choke. No murder. Bo Dietl was a great, respected, celebrated cop and detective.
You can't be "right" by just spewing unrelated, random claims that are completely false and fake. It doesn't really work that way.
And literally nothing you've said has any bearing on the fact that the cop used a hold that NYPD has told officers not to use.
Lulz.
Dietl said "not a chokehold" based on several logical, intelligent facts. He doesn't "become wrong" just because you hate him. He just makes you wrong.
The cop did try to horse collar Garner and throw him to the ground, because well, I guess waltzing around with a 400 # guy wasn't the best alternative. Even a headlock is not a chokehold. I think you missed by at least 2 degrees of "choke" here.
Think I'll go with the explanations of a decorated, respected 30-year cop, over yours. Even if you're armed with many a "Lulz". Though those things are certainly formidable.
If it wasnt an effing choke hold then why did he choke to death?
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: alienjuggalo
If it wasnt an effing choke hold then why did he choke to death?
He didn't. He died of a heart attack.
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: norhoc
I am no pro cop guy but I fail to see murder here. For one the moron kept reaching for something in his jacket
Reaching for something or trying to pull out the tazer dart, or touch where he was shot?
You see and hear what your brain has already pre-processed. That is why we can look at the same video, yet see and hear different things.