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originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: BanTv
Nothing against nicotine. Nothing against stimulants.
Lots against media and government driven bandwagons and propaganda.
I find it hard to digest when I see humans blindly jumping on a bandwagon and using the answers the addiction has provided for them to make it ok.
I find it hard to digest humans making poor decisions but the media propaganda and their addiction makes them believe it's ok.
On this subject I'm not a hypocrite - I'd never put an ecig in my mouth and I am better than most on here as I don't need a substitute to quit smoking Or in many cases on here - an excuse to carry on inhaling.
I don't think my comments are nasty - I honestly see a correlation between stupidity and vaping. Also a correlation between weak will power and vaping.
originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: and14263
And there are many people out there that had a stronger will than you and never started. You're making an ass of yourself. You're ridiculing people that are having a hard time with smoking cessation to boost your inflated ego.
But it is stupid reasoning to believe Ecigs are the next best thing to sliced bread.
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
I think the key is getting totally away from the cigarettes long enough that you get your taste buds back in the first place.. then you really know how good vaping tastes in comparison.
I disagree. Flavors don't make up for the lack of "buzz" that keeps me sneaking analogs.
A research group from the EU Joint Research Centre just published an extensive chamber stuyd analysis of e-cigarette aerosol from several brands that adds to the evidence that e-cigarettes are a substantial source of exposure to nicotine, ultrafine particles, and other chemicals. While the results are similar to earlier work, it adds to the evidence base, particularly that e-cigarette particles are very small.
Additional additives, such as coumarin and acetamide, that raise concerns for human health were detected in certain samples. Ten out of 28 products had been declared “free-of-nicotine” by the manufacturer. Among these ten, seven liquids were identified containing nicotine in the range of 0.1–15 µg/ml. This suggests that “carry over” of ingredients may occur during the production of cartridges.
Other studies have focused on safety and quality aspects of refill liquids. They reported inconsistent levels of nicotine (Goniewicz et al., 2013) and nicotine impurities (Trehy et al., 2011, Etter et al., 2013 and Hutzler et al., 2014) among batches/brands. Williams et al. (2013) described the possibility of metals, or chemicals from plastics in the delivery system, leaching into the vapour before inhalation. Behar et al. (2014) identified toxicants in cinnamon-flavoured e-cigarette refill liquids.
Conclusions: Vapors from EC contain toxic and carcinogenic carbonyl compounds. Both solvent and battery output voltage significantly affect levels of carbonyl compounds in EC vapors. High-voltage EC may expose users to high levels of carbonyl compounds.
I am just fine taking my chances with something proven to be much much less harmful than the one thing I could not quit on my own nor with the help of any drug or patch. Is that a defect in me somehow?