Pope calls for end to fossil fuels

originally posted by: Temudjin
Then your a part of the problem

Nah, the problem is religious wackadoodles foisting their faith on others.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Religion is a meaning of building societies. Like i said, low level masonry is a fantastic thing.

originally posted by: Temudjin
Religion is a meaning of building societies.

Organized religion is the bane of society.

Like i said, low level masonry is a fantastic thing.

How would you know?

a reply to: mc_squared

I'd agree that is going on. On both sides though which really makes it hard, so I guess we actually agree for the most part. Imagine that, we talk and find out we are not that far apart. If only business and government could do the same.

@ The Redneck. I know what you mean about being pressured, and I have had times when I try so hard, but still need to do more and want to shout (and have) But I'm Dancing As Fast as I Can!".

But I don't think we are "dancing as fast as we can" on this issue. Do you really?

originally posted by: Blaine91555
If only business and government could do the same.

Government is business and vice versa.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Temudjin
Then your a part of the problem

Nah, the problem is religious wackadoodles foisting their faith on others.

No, the problem is stupid people. Too many people are allowed to vote. Pay attention on the upcoming election and see how much time will be spent on nonsense.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Even tho we are on different teams doesnt mean i dont have masonry friends, with a certain attribute.

originally posted by: anton74
No, the problem is stupid people.

Religious wackadoodles are stupid people and many of them vote.

originally posted by: Temudjin
Even tho we are on different teams doesnt mean i dont have masonry friends, with a certain attribute.

Yup, I am on team 'Common Sense' and you seem to be on team 'WTF?'.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Wait. If we are indeed making the earth hotter then is that not be choice?

You said that you would prefer warmer over colder. If (if) we had a choice - you might get your wish. Do you believe the climate is changing and that things are getting warmer? Is it possible I misunderstood you?

:-)

You tell me, it works out to around $72,000 per person. Is that economical in your opinion? Do you think that is a worthwhile investment?

Is that $72,000 per year? For how many years?

If we're going to have to start moving in a new direction, as a first step, and to show an example of what can be done? Yes, totally worth it. Like any technology - costs will come down eventually

It would only not be worth it if there was a better option - and if change wasn't necessary in the first place

originally posted by: masqua
Can't listen to scientists, can't listen to religious leaders...

I guess it comes down to listening to Big Oil.

My favorite post of the day. Brill!

a reply to: Gothmog

Great. Lets do it now. End all fossil fuel consumption and run the entire world off of what ?

Ask Adam and Eve they did the job right according to what we were told. :-)

Regards, Iwinder

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
Do you believe the climate is changing and that things are getting warmer?

I do, but not as rapidly as some may overstate (Al Gore, A.K.A Manbearpig).

Is that $72,000 per year? For how many years?

That is $72,000 per person to make the Vatican the most 'renewable'.

If we're going to have to start moving in a new direction, as a first step, and to show an example of what can be done? Yes, totally worth it. Like any technology - costs will come down eventually

It would only not be worth it if there was a better option - and if change wasn't necessary in the first place

Then we differ on what a good return on investment happens to be, as to me, $72,000 per person, is way too much for the return. I think they could have helped far more spending far less.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: anton74
No, the problem is stupid people.

Religious wackadoodles are stupid people and many of them vote.

Just like the non-religious that think the main issues in our country are things like the war on women, abortion, and gay right instead of the economy? Stupidity knows no boundaries.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Not at all what I meant.

originally posted by: anton74
Just like the non-religious that think the main issues in our country are things like the war on women, abortion, and gay right instead of the economy? Stupidity knows no boundaries.

Personal/Civil Rights are just as important, maybe even more so, than the economy.

What good is money if you are oppressed?