Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: WanDash

Lol!

Btw though, my original account went wonky when they changed the site. I was wingsfan and posted on ats since 2006 or so. It's been a long journey trying to piece my adventures together.

a reply to: Arpad

Oh, I knew you 'sounded' familiar... but I'm seeing double account holders everywhere now!

originally posted by: Raczek
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

No, no DNA molecule resemblance, rather gray, silversilver smoke but with defined edges and center. Spiral but with 4 threads, twisted and going into the center. That's how I remember and I am afraid that the memory is fading away.

As to your questions.

1. no
2. hell yes.

May I ask why are you asking? Am I loosing my mind? What pattern are you speaking of? If it's well known apparently I am an idiot and I missed it?

Oh don't feel bad.

There is a tiny distance between science and whats on ATS is called
"woo". I endlessly strive to find the right balance.

One minute I'm working on correlating satellite trajectories, the next
I'm correlating the biological effects of a plasma life-form on human
physiology.

I'm not familiar with the specific life-form you mentioned; but one of
the most universal side-effects is a heightened sex drive, and this has been
known for something like 5,000 years.

Thanks for answering my questions.. and don't worry.. you are fine..
just try not to let your imagination get the better of you; as that is
the downfall of this sort of experience.. there is a reward/pleasure/
ego/sexual circuit that develops if one is not careful, and one goes
off the deep end, like many self-described occultists, spiritualists,
religionists and contactees go.

So long as you don't seek such experiences and live a normal happy
life everything will be fine.

Again, thanks for the report.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I'm not familiar with the specific life-form you mentioned; but one of
the most universal side-effects is a heightened sex drive, and this has been
known for something like 5,000 years.

This is most likely due to the increase in dopamine levels from the over stimulation of the prefrontal cortex by the Magnetic Wave Warp Drive. Probably nothing to worry about.

a reply to: ZetaRediculian

I don't know if that was a joke or not, but the effects of electromagnetism on human cognition are quite fascinating and possibly relevant to the subject. And of course likely somehow mediated by neurotransmiters. Dopamine? why not. But serotonin. Now, play around with serotonin receptors and you start getting some pretty astonishing results. Serotonin is thought to be one of the neurotransmiters responsible for wellbeing. It could also increase sex drive.

A lot of encounters with UFOs, including some run-ins with our triangular friends, have some really strange borderline hallucinatory components. If this phenomena somehow affected the serotonin levels in humans temporarily it could explain some off the stranger features of sightings. Missing time could be result of some sort of slowing down of neurotransmiters kind of like how sedatives work on humans.

I still don't think this is all crazy people hallucinating. You really don't see seeming real objects manifest without a full blown delirium. Delirium tends to be very scary, but kind of banal. You see people who aren't there and giant spiders. UFOs are a bit too esoteric for that. But in the realm of possibility.

I don't think this is all about spooks injecting things into people. It would be difficult to make people have such consistent experiences with chemical means alone. I think there is something real, physical real, going on that in some instances can veil itself. Whether it's an artefact of their propulsion or something such or if it's something directed I don't know. But I understand that Vallee was the first one to aproach the high strangeness as electromagnetic phenomenon. I certainly didn't come up with this.

a reply to: phantomflier

Good stuff, PF. It reminds me that Jacques Vallee has also postulated that we have platforms that actually do just that. These postulated craft have the ability to not only appear more awesome than they are, they also screw with the nervous system. If I remember correctly, he phrases it where it sounds like more than theorizing. I also believe he mentions the triangles in relation to it.

Another aspect he mentioned was that maybe something was initially built to be extremely fast and agile and while that didn't quite work out, they found out--basically by accident--that it would mess with people's perception. It would explain a lot and no hyper-intelligent ablative disk from the mists of forgotten history needed to explain it.

So...maybe this is about those graphene triangles after all. Still, *SNIPPY* could have gotten that on the internet and we're not much closer.

originally posted by: phantomflier
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

I don't know if that was a joke or not, but the effects of electromagnetism on human cognition are quite fascinating and possibly relevant to the subject. And of course likely somehow mediated by neurotransmiters.

I'm around 75% joking and about 25% full on serious at any given moment.

Dopamine? why not. But serotonin. Now, play around with serotonin receptors and you start getting some pretty astonishing results. Serotonin is thought to be one of the neurotransmiters responsible for wellbeing. It could also increase sex drive.

oh I have played with my serotonin receptors until they pretty much stopped working. Increased serotonin levels, I believe, will not be good for your sex drive. Ask anyone who uses an SSRI.

A lot of encounters with UFOs, including some run-ins with our triangular friends, have some really strange borderline hallucinatory components. If this phenomena somehow affected the serotonin levels in humans temporarily it could explain some off the stranger features of sightings. Missing time could be result of some sort of slowing down of neurotransmiters kind of like how sedatives work on humans.

Missing time is probably due to memory loss. Perception of time slowing is caused by an increase in brain activity.

Tachypsychia is a neurological condition that alters the perception of time...

It is believed that tachypsychia is induced by a combination of high levels of dopamine and norepinephrine, usually during periods of great physical stress and/or in violent confrontation

en.wikipedia.org...
Usually there is a rush of adrenaline when you see a giant nuclear powered triangle. That combined with a little electromagnetism could cause a pretty narly rush.

I still don't think this is all crazy people hallucinating. You really don't see seeming real objects manifest without a full blown delirium. Delirium tends to be very scary, but kind of banal. You see people who aren't there and giant spiders. UFOs are a bit too esoteric for that. But in the realm of possibility.

I don't think this is all about spooks injecting things into people. It would be difficult to make people have such consistent experiences with chemical means alone. I think there is something real, physical real, going on that in some instances can veil itself. Whether it's an artefact of their propulsion or something such or if it's something directed I don't know. But I understand that Vallee was the first one to aproach the high strangeness as electromagnetic phenomenon. I certainly didn't come up with this.

In general, there will always be a real physical component to any "hallucination". Perceptual distortions is probably a better term. Now lets think about this. You see something unusual. You get excited which causes a little adrenaline which causes a little perceptual distortion which causes that thing to look more unusual and so on in a feedback loop of sorts. Now if there really is an object spouting electromagnetism...I suppose it could get really strange. But in reality, we have all the brain chemistry we need to have such experiences at any time without the need for an external influence.

My imagination takes the best of me when I see s good looking woman passing me onthe street. That's all about that.
I have to say that I took this recent random events very calmly and with high level of scepticizm. Quite weird as I get excited seing a satellite in a night sky or unusual contrail.
I have heard about concept of interdimensional beings mentioned by someone from Dr. s. Greeyer entourage.
I welcomed comunication, and would welcome any further attempts.
Finally, I do not think that what (possibly) happened is part of something focused on me, but rather a part of a large plot directed toward a group, where I got to experience some tiny bits of it.


reply to:
KellyPrettyBear

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I'm not familiar with the specific life-form you mentioned; but one of
the most universal side-effects is a heightened sex drive, and this has been
known for something like 5,000 years.

This is most likely due to the increase in dopamine levels from the over stimulation of the prefrontal cortex by the Magnetic Wave Warp Drive. Probably nothing to worry about.

Well it's interesting then that humans have been building "magnetic
wave warp drives" since before the neolithic era more than 12,000 years
ago.

Of course I'm familiar with this theory.. I've communicated with
Persinger and others.

And yes, Dopamine and other neurochemicals are involved.

There is obviously a sharp divide between the 'saucer heads' and the
naturalists on this topic; and I'll even go so far as to say that I'm
not opposed to either camp, as PART of the big picture.

Kev

Well.

I'm going to be leaving this thread for now, so i suppose I should finally
finish trashing my reputation (not that i have one really) and tell you
the 'other part of the story'. As they said on that old radio program.

As it so happens, that 'triangular ufo sighting' (*eye roll*) of
mine was not purely an accident. Or at least that's the way it seems..
I will be the first to say that perhaps there was no causative link
between what I did, and what happened the next day. I could certainly
have 'woo'ed myself'.

But the truth is, that I was frustrated by never having seen anything
ever once resembling a 'ufo', so I 'called for one to come visit me'.

I know. Eye roll away.

But I have been a practicing shaman for most of my life, so I simply
treated 'ufo's' like any other 'spirit', and there it came.. the next day
after I'd forgotten about the 4 hour ritual and was taking out the
recycling. Now, that's pretty textbook for this sort of thing; it's
in fact completely expected due to how it (purportedly) works.

Then.. the thing sure looked and felt like a machine.. that really
baffled me. I had been convinced that I could just 'see through the
illusion' and see it's 'true form' (the animal's form).. but it turned
out to not work that way.. quite.. that perplexed me.

But the dang thing 'talked to me' for about 5 seconds, telling me
some things I won't be revealing; but which have NOTHING to do
with the farce/nonsense that IMHO started this whole mess..

of course who am I to talk? I'm summoning and talking to sentient
'ships'. I must have watched too much 'FarScape'.

So here I am.. fully on-board with certain technologies AND certain
'woo' both. (actually both are 'woo') and knowing what I know.. but
strictly speaking not liking ANY of it. I've never been fully comfortable
as a 'shaman'. Was not fully comfortable as a nuclear engineer, and I
do computer systems design these days, but it's a living, not what i
really want to be working on.

You may laugh at me and tease me as you wish.

I do not wish to repeat the 'experiment'. I have other research
i'm working on, and this whole fake ufo thing while mildly
interesting, is in fact a distraction.

Kev

Oh one more quick thought occurred to me for the first time while
I started getting ready for work..

When you read about 'sentient plasmas' from respected scientists
(Bohm, Tsytovich, etc) or just plasmas (many references), you
generally read about free flowing electrons in conjunction with
dust particles or the like.

Well --- this should interest most everyone... my ancestors the
Lakota Sioux tribe (I'm just 1/4 Native American) ALWAYS
blow smoke particles to 'attract the spirits' as 'they' like
particles like that.

And in other traditions, there is of course a lot of burning..
which releases electrons and provides smoke particles
BOTH.

I for one, find that very interesting...

Well, woo-master in chief signing off to go to work.

Kev

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: JackHill

ETA and to play devil's advocate, along with what GUT suggested about the graphene neural networked aircraft , that is, is the thought the little alien things were broached in some of his earlier posts where he said they were gene spliced constructs... so that would answer the humanoid sightings... just sayin...

Gene splice constructs... in the 40s and 50s. I seriously doubt it. See, I don't deny the black triangles, all the opposite, these things obviously exist, MAYBE some of them are military projects, indeed it seems to be the case when you have conventional aircrafts 'escorting' the objects. But this... this is too much and doesn't fit in the reality, specially when we look back to really old cases.

a reply to: JackHill

this is too much and doesn't fit in the reality, specially when we look back to really old cases

what is the oldest flying triangle case?

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: JackHill

this is too much and doesn't fit in the reality, specially when we look back to really old cases

what is the oldest flying triangle case?

I'm talking about old 'alien' encounter cases, read my two previous posts.

a reply to: JackHill

Oh. I'm not interested in those. I'm pretty convinced that there are no aliens currently.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

imo, before we can answer any question comprehensively, we need to first answer the question 'what are we'?

great thread folks

originally posted by: aorAki
I have just been to my PM inbox and noticed that there are a whole lot of PMs that have disappeared. They were there earlier this week, but now are gone. I know, for a fact, that I didn't delete them, as they were juicy tidbits. How very odd.

Not sure if I am correct but I seem to recall you being located in Australia?

If so, the new anti terror laws allow ASIO (australian spy agency) to delete files of people personal computers without their knowledge or consent.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

You guys do realize that U2Us have a finite lifespan, right? They don't stick around forever.

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: JackHill

Oh. I'm not interested in those. I'm pretty convinced that there are no aliens currently.

The lack of interest isn't a valid argument when trying to reach the truth behind the claims.

If SNIPPED claims that there's are NO aliens involved in the abduction scenarios, because ALL the abduction scenarios involve the presence of the 'black triangles and the RKs and their agenda', he should be able to explain then why there is a vast record of 'abduction' experiences in the 40's and 50's when supposedly the so called 'RKs' projects were still in their childhood.

a reply to: JackHill

The lack of interest isn't a valid argument when trying to reach the truth behind the claims.

Are you saying that the truth cannot be known about the abduction phenomenon without believing in aliens or including them in the story.

Are you saying that aliens must be a factor in understanding anything to do with the abduction phenomenon?

Thanks in advance.