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...any novel info can replace 'UFO' and be spoken of in such a manner.
What are we supposed to do? Nobody is taking money... nobody is going off to join #snippy# in his compound...
it's a story... one that makes more cohesive sense about high tech that is seen than most other stories I've read... but a cult?
...but we cannot muffle inquisitiveness to keep some folks from extrapolating too much, can we?
originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: BASSPLYR
But what about all the other instances.... im talking hundreds, if not, thousands of sightings in 40 years.
Regardless of the reason, these things risk exposure to the whole world if they crash land on dry terrain... unless ofcourse there is an angle we arent seeing.
My point is there is something that doesnt add up in 'the risk of accidentaly CRASH landing in a populated area and blowing the cover up bigtime' versus ' the reason it is over populated areas (and therefore, sighted sometimes) in the first place'.
Its as if it is impossible for these 'craft' (sorry KellyPrettyBear - i still dont get why it aint a craft... r u referring to the assumption it is grown as opposed to built?) to malfunction.
originally posted by: Zadiel74
originally posted by: Arpad
3. those that can't see them yet, don't look for a triangle, but rather look for something amiss. you'll see it eventually and then often.
The chances of seeing anything interesting in my location is probably slim to none, but just in case...
originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
I know you just said you don't want to explain why you don't think there are any physical craft involved, but I have to disagree with you. Could you at least give a brief explanation why you think this? Do you believe they are holographic or something? I am not attempting to dispute your beliefs or argue the point I am just really curious.edit on 10/2/2014 by sputniksteve because: (no reason given)
"Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults" by Jacques Vallee
"Operation Trojan Horse" by John Keel
50 years as a researcher of so-called 'spiritual phenonemon'
8 years as a Navy Nuclear Engineer with a secret clearance.
First hand, close observer of a 'Black Triangle'
First hand, close experience of 'interesting forms of non-material life.
From my perspective and experience, some things are painfully
obvious. But maybe that's just me.
Iv'e certainly been fooled and deceived for lengthy periods of my
life; so I'm not suggesting I have all the answers.
But as I said in an earlier post, I'm on a hiatus for the most part;
studying the Neolithic Era and Old European and Semitic culture
and living a normal life.
Kev extra DIV
Where could I read your story? I am curious not judgmental. I also like the fact that Jenisiz and other skeptical members are hear as it reminds the really enthused researcher that fundamentally it is all a story on the internet while looking into what the story said. A sort of feet grounding effect if you will.
To think this BLOCKED FROM NAMING member is asking us to ignore all the other contradictory claims in favor for his that provides zero solid proof is offensive. As Carl Sagan said... "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
originally posted by: WanDash
a reply to: Baddogma
Baddogma - not trying to derail or add something that has no value for anyone else - but, not everyone interested in this matter is coming from an "I always wanted to be an astronaut" or, "Star Trek" or "Star Wars"...etc, junkie angle.
My intrigue may be from one of the more obscure and even insubstantial perspectives...but, here it is...
The pea under my mattress wasn't nearly as jaw-dropping as anyone-else's, but, the timing and oddity caught my attention.
I have obviously been a member on this site for a while.
As such, I have, likewise, seen, noted and then...ignored...all of the Black Triangle threads/topics...
Once, jumping into one of the aviation threads, and realizing that people are interested in such topics to the degree that any contribution I might attempt, on a scale of 0 to 100, would be assessed south of Zero...I simply backed out, and left the big boys and girls to their apparent obsession/s.
I don't even fly commercially...anywhere...anymore (11 years, now).
Nonetheless - on either June 17 or 18, 2014, I had a dream that was unsettling-enough, that it woke me...I remembered it...and continued to remember and remain unsettled (by it) long enough to memorialize it in a thread entitled Blue Triangular Craft - Dream.
Having never been interested in the Black Triangles or aviation advancements or technologies...the impact this dream had on my general psyche for many days following, was 'troubling'.
The most disturbing component of the dream had to do with the Midnight Blue Triangular Craft apparently losing its equilibrium, and tumbling to its demise.
I am not a prolific thread starter...but, this was the only thread I had ever offered on ATS about a dream.
24 hours and 19 minutes later, I was posting another thread, entitled Hallucination, Vision, Coincidence or Synchronicity.
The crux of said thread/post was to commemorate a 'sighting' that had occurred a few hours after posting the "Blue Triangle'" thread...that was eerily similar to one of the most unbelievable experiences of my life (6 years and 7 months earlier), which had been commemorated, at the time, under the title - "Tumbling".
Over the month that followed posting those threads, I noted the furor surrounding Zaphod58's Weird California Sighting thread, but holding to form, avoided the topic, until...a certain buzz infected "Chat" for a few nights running...
#SNIP#'s name, and some details of what #SNIP# had been contributing, of late, comprised a significant slice of 'the buzz'...and, my curiosity was sparked.
But - I'm old enough that 'sparks are as good as the thrill' anymore...and did not venture into those "aviation" threads to see what was going on...
In Chat, some appeared to be taking it very seriously... Others were not... And still others were allowing for the possibility/ies, without committing to anything.
I don't know that I had noted anything about "Black Triangle"s in the Chat conversations.
But, Friday, July 25...somewhere around the noon hour...I checked the "Recent" posts page, and saw the ##SNIPPED##, Black Triangles, abductions... thread...within a few minutes of its inauguration.
There were no replies at the time.
It was very interesting, even having been quasi-exposed to some of what was claimed, in the Chatroom dialog... - but - I had to return to work, and thought "I sure hope he gets some replies...so it'll be easy to find later, when I have time to read/consider."
When I returned, and had just read through the first few comments on Page 4...#SNIP# posted the "Goodbye my friends..." farewell.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
This may mean nothing to you... May mean nothing to anyone... And, ultimately, may prove to mean nothing at all...
But - the coincidence/s of what inspired the two threads, a month earlier, and timing of the farewell thread...combined with the 'intelligent content'...hooked me.
Again - sorry if this means nothing to you or anyone else...
originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
I think that, based on your input (which is awfully reminiscent of what Jaques Vallee would have to say), and the fact these things never malfunction, I would consider this possibility more seriously than before...
What then could be the reason and the means for causing such (unreal) sightings? Defense decoy? social experiment?
How does this tie in? what r we missing here?