In less than 90 days, you will be "REQUIRED" by Federal Law to carry a "National ID" card.

Originally posted by 46ACE

Originally posted by HellstormRising
reply to post by Klassified

 

Hey Klassified, The only issue with the RFID technology is that it's a very low end power reading and can only be noticed within a certain Radius. Typically the RFID only contains information such as images, data, possibly medical data etc. Also could track coordinates but wouldn't operate as an actual GPS for that they'd need to have a separate unit unless the RFID card inside spoke to cell phone towers in the area to provide coordinate updates then it would be more triangulation rather than GPS but that's my take on it.

Chances are put the thing in a microwave for 10 seconds just to be safe. I don't buy that they would even tell you if it included things like the GPS. We're all probably already chipped and don't even know it.

actually they were rfid application tests where readers are installed in store door frames,so the (short range)readers powered by facility power could just communicate to a local server to be uploaded later. pylons could be placed on street corners and keep up with a pedestrians movements...

edit on 28-2-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)

You beat me to it. Close enough to what I was going to say.

Originally posted by DaddyBare
Ya know as a licensed CDL driver I kind of already had to do that.... and it was a royal pain too!!!
Look I have the Haz Mat endorsement right so I can haul a tanker of gas or some-such... well nowadays that haz mat requires I have my fingerprints taken and sent off to Washington where the Department of homeland security decides if they want to give me that Lic.... took 90 days and cost me $125 out of pocket... just a little heads up to what you all might face someday

No that's not the same thing. Go to the link and read it carefully. Our CDL licenses with "X" only go to DHS to screen applicants for any security weaknesses or risks. Yes fingerprints are taken for DHS but they are also taken for states, my state anyway for any class of license. When my renewal came due and I found that DHS wanted me to fill out a pile of special forms I just deleted my hazmat cause I never use it anyway. Too much bother. The thing about these new licenses that bugs me is the bit about "tracking the holder". That has no precedent. If I have to have it it's going into the microwave for a few minutes before it goes into my wallet.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Won't happen.

Too many states are against the REAL ID act. Many of the newly elected Governors are against it. Many people just do not have IDs, and we cannot require them to carry one. I hope some idiot does ask me for ID sometime when I am not driving.

In most states USA citizens age 18 and older are required to carry official identification regardless of whether or not they operate a motor vehicle. The only idiots that have ever asked me for ID had badges on their shirts or worked the register at liquor stores.

Originally posted by HellstormRising
reply to post by 46ACE

 

Awesome glad you were able to surmise what I was getting at. YOu were able to explain it in better terminology than I could. Kudos. I would hope however that those pylons and remote uploading utilities would get smashed to bits because we all have the right to travel freely within the United States and we shouldn't bow to anyone because they have superior technology than the populace.

the devil on my shoulder thinks the stuff is "rife for compromise".
I did a little research when I first got wind of the rfid id's and found plenty of open source commercial rfid development info(white papers on and such on readers and datasheets on commercially available tags(transponders)have hunt down those links and pdf's again

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Well my point was since he's been warning about this for oh I don't know about 2 years now maybe he's not as crazy as alot of people think...

reply to post by Skippy1138

Understood. And agreed. I think Alex has been talking about this for several years now. And a few others too.

it's time already for those damn aliens to come down already and show us whats up

reply to post by HomeBrew
you need to ask her about REAL ID that is R.E.A.L. or EDL www.dhs.gov...

So what about the criminals? Are you saying that it will be impossible for them to hack a card and/or the databases and assume identities? Since the US gov't has been hacked and had so many security breaches why should anyone believe they are capable of keeping the country secure with technology. I thought the US was behind the rest of the world in STEM skills, so am I really supposed to trust some poorly educated computer science / information system major to keep this system secure. I thinks not!

Each card will store up to a gigabyte of personal data about the card holder AND will contain a GPS tracking chip.

hmmmph... kinda sounds like my Tom Tom.
/sarcasm

im sure that if you did put it in the microwave to kill the chips theywould have a failsafe and have a new one to you within a week

If I'm not mistaken Larry Ellison designed and provided the infrastructure for this program. For what it's worth. Sorry if already posted.

The atom bomb presented us an ultimatum.
There was for the first time, evidence that we could destroy ourselves.
Not just ourselves but all of us.
Some got this message and some didn't.
While some who got it began and continued to work got for world peace, others who got it really didn't.
They believed but they doubted.
They thought, "all of us? Surely not all of us."
And they began to dig holes.
And fill them.

We now have so many ways in which we can destroy ourselves that they are now moot.
What do we suppose they have been storing in those holes. Food and porn?
They plan to come out the other end of this armed to the teeth.
They live and hope to find the rest of us a shambles.

Even should we fight off this national ID, it really won't gain us much.
Especially since the ones really behind the Real ID do not care if we submit or not.
Submit, fine. Resist, bingo.
Letting it all fall to chaos will only serve their purpose.

A real ID will not constrain me. I do not plan on fighting them. Just exposing them. They are mad.
They did not change when that bomb dropped.
Their sanity decomposed and they do not see it.

The Real ID is a line in the sand. There are many many others. All drawn by them.
We needed to have drawn the line with the bomb.

All I know is: They want me to have this card, they better pay for it and all the renewals. I will be damned if I am going to waste any money on a useless federal ID card that NO state in the entire country is ready to issue. This is just another way to take more money from Americans. Our state IDs expire every few years on our birthdays...and for what reason? There is no reason why state IDs have to expire. Wait there is: So every two years or so, depending on your state, we can fork over nearly $100 for a new ID card that doesn't need to be renewed. Not to mention we have to hunt down about 20 forms of ID, that most Americans don't or barely have if they lost their ID to begin with. Instead of fixing a broken system that could save the country hundreds of millions or billions of dollars, they create a new system that will cost twice as much, if not more, to design, implement and carry out. They have to make universal computers for EACH state...that could be more than a few dozen computers or more PER state. Train employees how to make them, supply printers, plastics etc to make IDs,etc...It's ridiculous and I refuse to take part in it. As I said with the healthcare law which I also refuse to participate in, they can put me in jail, but then they can expect me to sue the hell out of them for violating my rights, which also would be a giant list.

reply to post by Klassified


All I can say for me, personally, when asked about this POS card I will say sure officer let me fish it out of my pocket here, and pull out my hand with a lovely middle finger for their butts!!!!! ,.l.. Then "have a nice day officer!"

I'm glad i dont live in the US right now.

You are loosing your rights in US faster and faster, and nobody in protesting.

Is see no strikes, no protests, no nothing.

Sad.

they're just make life that bit easier for their citizens , relax there's no conspiracy brewing.

Originally posted by schawalski
they're just make life that bit easier for their citizens , relax there's no conspiracy brewing.

edit on 1-3-2011 by schawalski because: i made a mistake

Obviously you don't live in the US. There is nothing easy about getting an ID as it is now. I do not see how this will make anything anymore easier.

Originally posted by sucarit
You are loosing your rights in US faster and faster, and nobody in protesting.

Is see no strikes, no protests, no nothing.

Sad.

McDonald's, fluoride, and television.

TPTB have got it covered.