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And so your discontent is centered on the distinction between legislation and enforcement?
It is better than what we had before...and better than what we would have now absent reform. The trend lines were dramatic and consistent...thousands of employers each year scaling back on benefits, increasing costs to employees or dropping plans altogether. Insurers denying coverage over the most mundane of things and dropping folks over the slightest technicality the moment they were diagnosed with cancer or other serious diseases.
If the GOP over-reaches and achieves repeal...then what? Millions un-insured and growing?
Indigo5
Krazysh0t
reply to post by Indigo5
You do know there is a difference between Congress legislating a bill and Obama coming out and just telling insurance companies they have his OK to break the law (that he pushed through)? Right?
And so your discontent is centered on the distinction between legislation and enforcement?
That seems disingenuous, a convenient rhetorical retreat ...and certainly conflicts with the contents of this thread.
Krazysh0t
In other words, stop making it sound like Obamacare is somehow better than what we had before. Just because it is something different and has a few new benefits for people who didn't have them before doesn't automatically make it better than what we had before.
It is better than what we had before...and better than what we would have now absent reform. The trend lines were dramatic and consistent...thousands of employers each year scaling back on benefits, increasing costs to employees or dropping plans altogether. Insurers denying coverage over the most mundane of things and dropping folks over the slightest technicality the moment they were diagnosed with cancer or other serious diseases. #1 cause of bankruptcy in the USA...even during the housing crisis!...#1 driver of federal debt...#1 driver of personal debt...#1 in cost in the world...and #37 in healthcare service outcome. For effs sake, just paying for an anti-biotic could cost you 600 dollars.
We either fix the boat or sink...but going back is not, nor ever was an option. If the GOP over-reaches and achieves repeal...then what? Millions un-insured and growing?
guohua
reply to post by Indigo5
It is better than what we had before...
Tell this woman that and a thousand others like her and the Children.
WFTV in Florida reports that a woman with cancer has been dropped from her insurance plan due to Obamacare:
Dear Gloria M. Carter,
With the new regulations surrounding the Affordable Care Act were happy to let you know you can KEEP your current Florida Blue Plan until Summer 2014. In the meanwhile you can also review the new plans already available.
Wrabbit2000
Lemmie guess... exactly 1 year? Just after voting day to the Mid Term Elections. Whoda guessed this was coming?
He is digging deeper holes for the seeds of his agenda.
This whole thing is very serious for the nation.
If you are single with an adjusted gross income of $200,000 or file jointly with an income of $250,000 or more, you may be impacted. Once you sell your home, any profits over the first $500,000 are already subject to a capital gains tax. And now those profits will have an additional 3.8% tax to fund Obamacare.
Aioso noted that there is also a lot of confusion surrounding this tax and many homeowners know little about it.
OneFreeMan
What is with all the stars on nearly every single post in this thread????
I smell a rat. I smell a script being played out.
I think therefore I smell!
marg6043
reply to post by theantediluvian
We all know that the legislation BS was going to start amid the mess that ACA has created, to save face in order to keep the voters confused and somewhat happy, now The president is going to what? delay the cancellations?
marg6043
Now the Insurance commission is warning The president of the repercussion of such decision,
after all this mean a "somewhat" halt and delay the greedy corrupted companies loophole that allowed them to increase the premiums.
Indigo5
marg6043
reply to post by theantediluvian
We all know that the legislation BS was going to start amid the mess that ACA has created, to save face in order to keep the voters confused and somewhat happy, now The president is going to what? delay the cancellations?
No..The President is not going to delay cancellations. He has simply told insurers that they don't have to meet requirements with their policies for another year.
Effectively he has handed the decision to insurers.
It's going to have to make economic sense to insurers for them to repeal cancellations.
The policies that were cancelled were slimmed down (individual) policies...the ones that didn't meet minimum standards. that means they were also inexpensive...thus those folks getting pitched higher cost policies.
If the ACA Exchanges were working properly...both technically and offering lower cost policies...those folks would go to the exchange and the insurers would lose that business.
If the exchange gets up and running efficiently...then the insurance companies that issued those cancellations have to think about competition...is it worth their while economically to repeal cancellations (combined with offers of more expensive policies)...or do they let those cancellations stand and gamble that those people will choose a more expensive policy rather than endure the exchanges etc.
every insurer is figuring out what the best option will be right now.
marg6043
Now the Insurance commission is warning The president of the repercussion of such decision,
after all this mean a "somewhat" halt and delay the greedy corrupted companies loophole that allowed them to increase the premiums.
A lobbying group...can't take what they say seriously. They don't want the hot potato handed to them. Up till now they were in a cinderalla spot...they could cancel policies and offer more expensive ones and blame ACA. All the while folks couldn't use the exchange to find competitive plans.
Now they can't blame ACA...Pres. Obama shifted blame to them. If the exchanges get up and running well...it will be more competitive for them as well...all of this factors into what we will see them do in the next few weeks.
bigdaveyl
You do realize that not everyone wants or needs maternity coverage.
marg6043
reply to post by Indigo5
You are right is not legislation "yet", but it will not be long before it happens,