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Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
We already went through this.. that isn't quite what I said.. it appears to have but that isn't the point.. the point is that much of the info they are conveying seemed to originate from Egypt and they use Egyptian symbolism in their imagery.
you are saying Freemasons don't do this or don't have this secret knowledge or didn't come from Egypt.. but there could be groups within the groups or groups that split off from the main group. How could you possibly know one way or the other? So it makes no sense to speak in absolutes.
You are completely contradicting another supposed mason who said the opposite. They said the knowledge was different from lodge to lodge... that was my interpretation at least.
Now you seem to be saying I should just take your word for it...
You are assuming all the leaders get the info.. you may not even know who the true leaders are -- who are the highest level masons...
I will... but I can't convey all that here.. it would be opening a can of worms that would take a long long time to fully explain. I am working to make that job easier. This is the most I can tell you right now.. just one man's view...
Originally posted by thePharaoh
hey Augustus, stop bullying people lol
basically, it was all adopted after the fall of the pharaoh, the persians, then the roman emperor.
Originally posted by TrueMessiah
reply to post by Kang69
Exactly!
What kills me is people don't even TRY to research what's going on. Instead they just blow it off. You could give them hundreds of sites, videos, etc. about the inner workings of the entertainment industry, governments, secret societies and occultism to compare and contrast which would enable them to form a general synopsis and it still gets ignored. Many of those still in denial here at ATS have already been directed to said sources but it's obvious the info was brushed off and dismissed.
There are a lot of intelligent people here on this site who may appear to, and should have the ability to comprehend and assimilate information but sometimes I start to wonder if I'm giving some of these guys to much credit. Maybe the amount of disinformation and derailing spread by an increasing number of agents is to blame? Idunno but the denial and ignorance is sickening.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Cut the crap. Start posting some specifics because all you are doing is making ultra-vague and nebulous generalizations with zero merit.
Originally posted by M4truthrld by monopolizing every asset of the modern world. Entertainment is one of them. By all accounts, the Illuminati has a dark twisted view of the world. I for one have seen enough evidence to conclude that their roots are in the satanic cult.
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
This is incredibly ironic coming from a supposed Freemason...
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
We already went through this.. that isn't quite what I said.. it appears to have but that isn't the point.. the point is that much of the info they are conveying seemed to originate from Egypt and they use Egyptian symbolism in their imagery.
Please list what specific Masonic imagery or symbols are Egyptian.
Pythagoras, School of
The schools established by Pythagoras at Crotona and other cities, have been considered by many writers as the models after which Masonic Lodges were subsequently constructed. They undoubtedly served the Christian ascetics of the first century as a pattern for their monastic institutions, with which institutions the Freemasonry of the Middle Ages, in its operative character, was intimately connected. A brief description of the school of Crotona will not therefore be inappropriate.
The disciples of this school wore the simplest kind of clothing, and having on their entrance surrendered all their property to the common fund. they then submitted for three years to voluntary poverty, during which time they were also compelled to a rigorous silence. The doctrines of Pythagoras were always delivered as infallible propositions which admitted of no argument, and hence the Greek expression he said it, was considered as a sufficient answer to anyone who demanded a reason. Aristotle, by the way, in his accounts of Pythagorean doctrines, refers with what appears to be a studied and cautious vagueness to the Pythagoreans, not to Pythagoras. The teaching was probably, according to recent investigation, as a rule credited to the founder.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
This is incredibly ironic coming from a supposed Freemason...
Nothing supposed about it. And as I said, I can and will back up anything I say with evidence.
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
The eye of Horus... Sacred Geometry which is big in freemasonry and Pythagoras learned from the Egyptians....
Look at the design of the main Freemason lodge in Washington DC which is built in the shape of an Egyptian sarcophagus.
Or the obelisk - the Washington monument - in DC. And the design of DC is based on Freemason symbols....
Pythagoras = Egyptian knowledge
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
How can you back up with evidence that the Freemasons have no secrets?
I can back up with evidence that high ranking Freemasons have said Freemasonry is a society with secrets...
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Which are the five passwords and grips I mentioned earlier.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Everything about Pythagoras is either anecdotal or apocraphal. There are no accurate histories of his travel, teachings or accomplishments.
The Grand Lodge of the District of Columbia is patterned after a classical temple, not a sarcophagus.
Where in any Masonic ritual does an obelisk appear? Answer: nowhere.
Originally posted by thePharaoh
reply to post by zatara
hey is that the even stevens dude
that show was great
i like him... also im not too bothered if he throws signs
im more concerned with if there is an issue/link with wearing a dress and big corporate cheques
peace
Originally posted by Xenoglossy
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
reply to post by Xenoglossy
From what I have seen they believe that this gives them power... to put hidden messages and symbols in the open. I am not sure why but I think that is why they do it.
How would placing something in popular media give somebody power? Apart from ... I don't know ... increased sales if you put a SONY laptop on James Bond's lap.
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
reply to post by Xenoglossy
Also, remember this group rules by intimidation and power... so they put their symbols all over everything and everywhere to let people know they are in control of everything and to let their people know if they step out of line they will be dealt with.
Yeah, the only problem with that theory is that the only people who apparently recognize this crap are some ATS members. The majority of the population doesn't give a damn - and is consequently not intimidated.
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
reply to post by Xenoglossy
Do a search for the eye symbols in the subway station of the WTC before the attacks. This seemed to represent the eye of Horus.. and supposedly the eye of Horus symbol is to reinforce to the initiates that they are always being watched. This ties into mind control and controlling the people who supposedly have the secrets. Do a search for Fritz Springmeier and monarch programming- mkultra. Also look for an interview from Svali - illuminati informant.
edit on 6-4-2013 by TheKeyMaster because: (no reason given)
NOBODY CARES ABOUT ANY OF THIS STUFF!!!!
Why would they place all this symbols if nobody gives a damn?edit on 6-4-2013 by Xenoglossy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
If it's known then it isn't a secret... so why did a high ranking Freemason say they were a society with secrets if there were no longer any secrets...
How can we accept your claim of no secrets still existing when you are known to be a society with secrets? Secrets are not told.... there is nothing stopping you from lying to protect those secrets..
Don't blame others for taking your own representatives at their word.... we aren't the ones claiming secrets...
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
Everything historical is anecdotal.
Which was also designed based on a sarcophagus...
Look.. a freemason sphynx in front of the freemason sarcophagus...