Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Ooo History, Can I Play?
Originally posted by Forrest4Three
Originally posted by TTAA2012
reply to post by Wonderer2012
I don't suppose that having been attacked by Iraqi SCUDS during the first Gulf War had anything to do with the way he felt about Saddam huh?
This hits the nail on the head. I agree 100%
Don't know how other people can not see this.
June 7 1981
Israel Bombs Iraq Nuclear Site
This could be the REASON Iraq tossed a few Scuds at Israel, I would have too!
Like the Jarhead said, the analogy fails. If I were Saddam Hussein and my nuclear reactor had just been bombed - and if I had any balls - I would have
retaliated against Israel with my SCUDS immediately.
But you think he would wait for ten years? That's like coming home from work to find your dog pooed on the carpet and you rub his face in it thinking
that will deter him from pooing on your leopard-print shag carpeting in the future. Any vet will tell you that dogs don't think like people. Not only
to they often eat their own poo of their own volition, but they also lack the capacity to connect the two events (the pooing and the rubbing of their
nose into the poo many hours later.)
No, Saddam fired SCUDS at Israel during Desert Storm hoping to draw Israel into the war, which would make remaining part of the Coalition problematic
for the Arab countries that were fighting against him.
ISRAELI RESTRAINT in the face of nearly two score successful SCUDS attacks on Israeli civilians prevented the Coalition from becoming unraveled. Had
the Jews fired back - which they had EVERY RIGHT in the world to do - Desert Storm would have had to have been fought by Western countries alone. (To
be honest, the Arab members of the Coalition did absolutely dick anyway, but that's beside the point.)
A lot of people forget the fact that the Israelis are doing their damnedest to be decent human beings, even to their enemies. Thousands of Arabs from
Gaza and the West Bank are treated in Israeli hospitals every year FOR FREE. Arab Israelis make up 20% of the population is Israel proper, and they
have the exact same rights as a Jewish citizen; Arabs even sit in the Knesset. So please don't tell me that Arabs and Jews can't live in peace
because it's being done every day; in a democratic Israel.
But some Arabs like those in Hamas still want to destroy Israel, which endured 8,000 - EIGHT THOUSAND - rockets and mortars landing in civilian
neighborhoods in the year leading up to Operation Cast Lead before they decided to defend themselves. That sounds like a state that is practicing a
great deal of restraint, and hardly the genocidal, blood-thirsty, land stealing vermin that Jew bashers say they are.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by TTAA2012
I try and base my arguments on facts rather than emotion.
Yet you use a good deal of emotion in presenting your facts. Mustn't forget about that.
Once I make up my mind about something, I defend my beliefs passionately; but my position is based on the facts and not on emotion. The most basic
fact is that if Israel is "committing genocide" it's the slowest damn genocide the world has ever seen; a few thousand in 65 years? Israel has
2-600 nuclear weapons. If they were really intent on wiping out Arabs and/or Muslims, that feat could be carried out in an afternoon.
I bet my bottom dollar that once Israeli restrain has run it's course, we're going to see the other side of the coin. If Israel feels that it's
existence is threatened, if they are really faced with extinction once again, there is always the Sampson Option. And I believe they'll use it.
"Never Again" indeed.
reply to post by TTAA2012
I'd like to ask why it is that they haven't expanded their borders beyond the original UN mandate.
Apparently winning land after fighting a DEFENSIVE war, should, like in the game of monopoly, go back to GO and get their land back.
I tried explaining that law and logic shouldn't function that way, that people should be penalized for causing damage, likewise, aggressors should be
punished for starting wars. Since the Arab League - Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Syria etc, started the war - of course being abetted throughout by the
indigenous Palestinian population, than the aggressors should lose that land that they lost. That's the punishment.
I feel the same way. Just like marbles, if you lose the game your opponent takes your balls; and keeps them. Which is how it should be.