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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Are any of you familiar with what down a couple days ago at a State Department briefing? A CNN reporter questioned the State Department spokeswoman Nuland about how they banned a documentary by Hans Muller called "Shadow Inc". No answer comes of it other than the usual "I'll look into it". But, the lady look rather flustered.

Here's the YouTube link. Good on CNN for actually asking about the shady stuff that goes on behind the scenes for once.

youtu.be...

Stars at 26:22s




posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
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Hmmm.

I watched 4 videos now. 2 by this guy, 2 videos claiming hes a nutbag.

The information for his conspiracy, is compelling though. It adds up.



I just had to add this though, as I laughed, when hes talking about "DarthF3TT", and your name coincidentally is DarthFazer.

I love ATS!



Just for anybody that missed this. I will acknowledge that you denied it so you don't have to rebut it twice.
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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It's obviously a diabolical plan to false flag WW3, so the world became unhinged on a low budget indie film


Fear not my fellow twoofers





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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 02:26 PM
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You are working so hard to debunk this guy's story. It makes one wonder what is your horse in this race?




posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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The Monte broom trick.
That was funny most likely with a dooby. If it was alcohol or a pharmaceutakill, man-made/processed drug>could have been much worse.

The Creator always made the best drugs to be used in moderation.
Never seen one get violent over a little smoke, cocoa leaf, peyote or lil shroomy.
Obviously the guy was on something and under alot of pressure.
Who isn't


So Monte did a good job putting together pieces of that puzzle.
So is the public to demand an official investigation? A formal Discovery session with an unbiased judge to hear the case? Better to have a few judges sign a warrant for a fact gathering session. No judge likes to be singled out on an issue. That requires too much faith in the "Rule of Law" which need not be written though could be discovered/by a jury of one's peers; preferably not hand picked/selected by the lawyers. Been to jury duty over 5 times and was never selected. Honesty was too risky I suppose though made a judge or two laugh with some observations about the process.
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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This is all fine and dandy, but this guy is a fool if he thinks any of US are going to share THIS with anyone. (I'm certainly not)

A guy staring into a web-cam blathering on about some conspiracy - yeah, this will be WIDELY accepted


How difficult would it have been to throw up a few URLs, Powerpoint slides, refernce a few articles, show ANYthing else besides his ugly mug, for 20 minutes?!

Puhlease - solid research, valid arguments, all wasted by crappy presentation.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
reply to post by MsAphrodite
 


This is all fine and dandy, but this guy is a fool if he thinks any of US are going to share THIS with anyone. (I'm certainly not)

A guy staring into a web-cam blathering on about some conspiracy - yeah, this will be WIDELY accepted


How difficult would it have been to throw up a few URLs, Powerpoint slides, refernce a few articles, show ANYthing else besides his ugly mug, for 20 minutes?!

Puhlease - solid research, valid arguments, all wasted by crappy presentation.


If this guy is right, his life may have just been drastically shortened. He knows it. You dismiss it because of a crappy presentation after acknowledging solid research and valid arguments.


Excuse me, that seems like a shallow and weak remark. Go turn on your TV to MSM news if you need a sweet presentation.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships
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I was doing a little further digging, and guess what I found?

Innocence of Muslims’ filmmaker was a federal informant

I am really supirsed that has not been posted on ATS yet.

Which leads me back to the Stanley Inc link....there is one other thing I am checking on.



I cant say I am ready to dismiss the entire OP video just yet.


I can help you some on your search. One of the most interesting things about his court case was not in the court case but who was defending him. James Henderson former organized crime investigator who was the man who made a lot of arrests and the movie Casino was made about that story. He then bought into a bunch of Casinos with his partner Richard P. Crane Jr who was also part of the organized crime unit. They were both accused of being corrupt by the guy who first said planes were going to be used to attack the United States in February 2001. That person was Gerald Van Hoorelbeke (Jerry Vann) a guy in prison for being a terrorist.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula sentencing pdf.
Showing his attorney was high priced organized crime defense attorney James Henderson former organized crime prosecutor.
www.scribd.com...

FBI file on reports of plane attacks in US before 9/11.
The Gerard Van Hoorelbeke  Louis Freeh Scarpa File.
www.forensic-intelligence.org...

US appeals court case where Hoorelbeke (Jerry Vann) made accusations against James Henderson about criminal ties to organized crime and Arabic men who wanted to pay bribes. James Henderson was in charge of the organized crime task force.
bulk.resource.org...

And for those who say well they were cleared of any wrong doing. No investigation was ever done. The FBI ignored the reports.
articles.latimes.com...



Agents from the FBI's Los Angeles office interviewed Vann about the allegations on Oct. 7, 1982, Shaheen said, and then reported to FBI headquarters that they would conduct no investigation "because of the time which had passed since the alleged acts had taken place and because the allegations (in the report's words) 'cannot be corroborated independently of Horrelbeke's (sic) statements.'
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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I read through all the comments here but it really wasn't needed. The entire premise of this guy's theory comes from a faulty google image search. There's nothing more to it than that.

I think the whole film thing is some kind of psyops. It has gone way overboard and I do have some feeling that it happened the way it did for a reason, first "coincidence" being that it all really started on the anniversary of 9/11. But this guy's claim just doesn't hold any water. Some of the stuff he claims is strange but the whole image search thing is bogus. I could put that image there with the words, "Disney, Inc", and then show links that show disney having their hand in it. (Hmmmm....lol )



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by Advantage
This just seems a lot more calculated and insidious. Its just.. well, the cloak and dagger just seems unnecessary if true.

Turning up the "heat" as "D-Day" approaches?


DHS "Going Hot"...

God Bless,



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
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You are working so hard to debunk this guy's story. It makes one wonder what is your horse in this race?



You may frown upon my critical thinking as you wish. Where i come from If it smells like snake, it looks like a snake and it moves like a snake…. IT'S PROBABLY A F##### SNAKE! It's as absurd as the folks claiming Hollywood makes movies about Aliens as part of a disclosure. Some people suffer a sort of pareidolia where they see a conspiracy in film & entertainment. I cant help you then. If the producer is Jewsih he must be part of the zionist agenda zod machine. You can chalk up Steven Spielberg being part of the provocateurs of a psyop too with that logic.


Islam rages over a caricature of their prophet is this film such a threat?

Deny Ignorance: it's become a paradox
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused
I read through all the comments here but it really wasn't needed. The entire premise of this guy's theory comes from a faulty google image search. There's nothing more to it than that.


Quoted for truth. In the same way that having a TM logo doesn't mean it's a trademark: Radiobuzz™, see?

If you believe there is a connection then all you have to do is scan the Stanley sever and find a NPN logo. You won't find it because it's not there. For further reference, tineye.com works much better than Google images for this sort of things.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Very interesting video there,

It doesn't surprise me that the US gov could well be have been behind this though, wonder what the next page holds ?



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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So.... where's the list of sites/links that the 'hacker' accessed... there were about 6-8 links the guy printed out by hyper-link


i seen this stuff way earlier... but i decided that it was not worth the investigatioin because any stuff would most likely be false information to lead people down-a-rabbit-hole


nothing produced so far is worth its weight in salt....IOW... the hacker and the gov't psy-ops are a team
don't be fooled


 


tied to what ?
an earlier YT offering called something like the 'Secret Life of Mohammad'
now re-released as 'the innocence of muslims'


either video saw very few clicks back in June 2012... how the hell did poor muslims both view this video for months & then get excited enough to kill people & burn Embassies on 3 continents with na ry a protest or murmur of discontent until that 9-11 day in Libya when all hell broke loose all at once
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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Because he used his Google Chrome browsers inspect elements feature and manipulated it. This is what Monty does he has done this before and has been caught and exposed in videos by my peers. However he had the videos removed under hate speech or false DMCA claims lol. He is notorious for circumventing the system flagging videos that expose his fraudulent claims. He claimed James Holmes was a Darpa psy op for instance. He fabricates these stories to get views. I could do a video showing how he did it but i cant use youtube because he will surely flag it. I have never used the media portal here for videos perhaps i will put something together later this evening. My peers are better at it since they debunked him several times before. Maybe i can get them to post here.
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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hey, thanks for for the quick reply

but i need to get up-to-speed on this guys schtick
is he a disinfo dude or what?
Is this guy a lone wolf (out of the gov't loop) instead of a NSA provocateur kinda worker ~ or what~
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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Most people refer to him as Dramagraph, he loves to encite flame wars and drama on yt but yeah he will do just about anything for video views for his partnership. Disinfo is his shtick and once he gets wind of a conspiracy rumor he will then regurgitate it seemingly as a whistle-blower. Nothing has ever panned out for him before that is the thing. This revelation is what we see from him every week from him nothing new. Hes known for trolling anyone that calls him out on his BS as "imyourghost and octoberreignz and if that wont work he will send his flying monkeys and have your channel removed/videos. Then the threats of him dropping your docs "personal information" usually he will create fake docs and claim said person to be someone they are not. Then he will threaten to have you killed by the Russian mob or the japanese yakuza seriously.
we have hours of footage of him doing this stuff saved to private where he cant flag them


see here www.abovetopsecret.com...



Yeah hes quite a unstable character , he calls himself KING

He is ring leader of his own Circus
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by talklikeapirat

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Prove your claims. I never thought i'd say this, but if you dont put up, i'll ask mods to look into it, because this is kind of personal.


That post you linked to seems to provide a lot of connected dots. I don't know. Maybe you need to specify what you call proof? Most proof in this world looks a lot like the sort of stuff he posted.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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If you want to know about a post from another thread that has not even been quoted or posted in this thread. Then ask where the post is at.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 06:34 PM
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You know what's nice? Looking at all the comments below Montagraph's video (www.youtube.com...), and seeing how many people are actually clued into these illuminuttie shananigans! I'm surprised more people here aren't awakened to this kind of thing.





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