Originally posted by shorttimewarrior
reply to post by zatara
And who is "your government" if not those who script and stage the grand illusion?
Sorry, you are wrong. While "the government" may indeed stage illusions for certain purposes (nobody denies that governments do this) - when it
comes to conspiracy theories, there are FAR MORE scripts, disnfo and illusions coming from the other side, from THAT side where you actually assume
"the truth" to come from.
The problem is, you people are unable to see this. You get scammed, disinformed and lied to on a constant basis, but NOT by NASA. I hope that one day
you will "wake up" and be able to actually discern the real liars.
Possibly you cannot see the faces or the architecture on Mars..
I "used" to see faces on Mars until it was disproven there are none, there are also no artificial pyramids or other structures - UNLESS this new
mission would find any, which i highly doubt tho.
Going through jpeg images like certain ATS forum members and seeing a face in literally every second stone is not something i can take serious. That
particular person posted her images over and over and still thinks there are faces on Mars and Moon, obviously she has no idea what pareidolia is,
since she is classic example for this. And classic "there are structures on Mars" proponents like Hoagland etc. are already proven wrong and being
scammers over and over.
New members often do not know how they will be attacked by the debunking element but still believe they are free to express uniquely individual
This is a public forum and the subjects here are controversial. I've seen people here deeming the opposite opinion as "negative" (or "attacking")
and only considering an opinion which agrees with them as "positive". If this is the case, i recommend NOT to participate on a public forum where
subjects WILL always be controversial and they WILL spawn opposite opinions. Can't live with this? Then unplug your computer, go outside or watch a
The opposite of courage is conformity to a system that explains away the most obvious of evidence and through this conspiracy of conformity, ridicule
and silence hides the most obvious contradictions in plain sight.
The evidence presented by you sorts of people is always extremely, extremely weak, if not entirely non existent altogether. Often, there is not even a
challenge to argue or debunk since the arguments are so weak or simply, excuse me, moronic. If there would be a situation or scenario where there is
really GOOD evidence, there is no reason even for a skeptic not to think over the pros/cons...or give the claim/theory some more thought. But this is
hardly EVER the case. We are not "getting paid" to explain away evidence at all costs, in fact it would be entertaining, interesting and cool to
have some theories or finding where there is worthy evidence, no matter how far out the claim might be.
I'm not saying that this conformity applies to you, but just that it is a general trend. I'm sure that your comments are based on the best
information you can obtain and are well reasoned and insightful; so, please don't take offense.
Unfortunately, scientists must conform to the script of the system or they will be ditch diggers next week.
The same applies for you, even worse. I see you guys forcefully WANTING to conform to your own beliefs, even if the contrary evidence slaps you in the
face. You are the ones believing. While this is true to some extent for science as well, you guys are much more extreme. Science is not obligated to
stick to one established theory, even if sometimes slow, very slow (since new findings need to be validated etc.) - science is open to accept new
things. IF they find life on Mars etc...so be it. Science will accept this. If they find out the universe is shaped like a banana, so be it. No one
gets punished for a new theory or finding, ALTHOUGH a theory would always require evidence first. But then it can be tested, verified and become
"new" knowledge/science. So..it has NOTHING to do with conformity.
You are the ones conform to a certain belief, for example, the belief there is a grand NASA conspiracy and the Mars landing/Moon landing etc. is a
hoax. When you run out of evidence, you just make up another theory on top of another one to explain the faulty original theory. If someone shows you
evidence that you might be wrong, you make it easy because you just claim lies and disinfo, making it easy for you to brush away any evidence which is
contrary to your beliefs.