Why Aren't You Screaming about Agenda 21?

Originally posted by frazzle
reply to post by Bixxi3

 

You know i really used to believe in the conspiracy of a NWO.

Sure you did.

second.

I used to believe in the NWO just like you, but then I took an arrow in the stupid...

edit on 25-7-2012 by Milkflavour because: (no reason given)

reply to post by Milkflavour


The Global Government scheme is real . You would have to be stupid not to see it . Agenda 21 is also working in your Local governments . I don't think you are genuine , you must be a shill .

Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by Milkflavour

 

The Global Government scheme is real . You would have to be stupid not to see it . Agenda 21 is also working in your Local governments . I don't think you are genuine , you must be a shill .

Nah, nothing so exciting mate, sadly, like most things, the explanation isn't a mega-conspiracy and I'm not a government agent.... Just a guy, who's sooooooooo tired of hearing the same bs being peddled but not a shred of hard evidence.... Just twisted facts, manipulated just as hard by the 'enlightened minds' on here to fit with their agenda as the MSM manipulate them for their own gain.... I've yet to see one, tiny, ACTUAL varifiable piece of evidence that there's one global syndicate trying to kill us all (so they can...??? Live all alone on the planet and.... erm.... ??) and rule the world with a rod of iron... Or whatever one of a million whacky theories (funny how there's SO many, all with their own HUGE piles of evidence), whether it's underground creatures, aliens from space, an attempt to raise the devil, a battle for our souls (and on and on and on, all with their sources and quotes and books but no ACTUAL evidence beyond 'what people think/said')... I'm so sick of it.... Please, for once, someone just provide some BLOODY EVIDENCE! Honestly... Someone posted a link to this as evidence that colleges are brianwashing people:

Duke Energy has partnered with Chatfield College, a Catholic liberal arts college based in Over-the-Rhine, to offer a free course for students and community members in environmental sustainability. This course will allow students to learn about environmental issues and solutions, how to apply and develop this information in everyday living, and prepare for professions in the field of sustainability. 

My god!!!!!! Teaching kids about environmental sustainability?!?!!! Why aren't we screaming about this?!

Ahhhh... Wait... I see... I haven't 'read between the lines' here... I need to twist it to fit into a global conspiracy to kill us all/control us... "environmental sustainabiliy" REALLY means kill me and my family... I SEE NOW! How blind I was.... Aaaaamaaaaazing graaaaaaace how sweeeeet the souuuuund....

Honestly, I will be prepare to believe this 100% and spend all my free time warning everyone I meet of the dangers IF someone shows me some ACTUAL proof... Not just words... Quoted or twisted or otherwise... Is that too much to ask?

reply to post by Milkflavour


You did not watch the video and take a look at all the reference material presented for yourself, did you?

The new world order is a good thing. It unites nations, and this prevents needless war over resources.

Originally posted by Skewed
reply to post by Milkflavour

 

You did not watch the video and take a look at all the reference material presented for yourself, did you?

Sadly, my phone won't allow me to watch the video, it just keeps saying "cannot load video" for some reason... It let me watch lots of the others though... Yeah... Thoroughly speculative and highly dubious... They're taking what the document actually says and then twisting it to fit into their conspiracy... And the other 'reference material'?
ISnewsgroup article: links to a conspiracy website
Ulstermans report: links to a conspiracy site with an 'anonymous source' as the 'refernce'

And so on and so forth...

Sorry man but none of that counts as evidence in my book.... I looked at everything I could and I still only see a load of he said/she said and taking what the actual document says and making it fit with the whole global kill everyone conspiracy thing... Maybe that video blows thē lid off the whole thing (or maybe it's produced by another person with their own agenda too???) but I can't view it.... Shame...
Do you know who made thē video btw? Who are they? What's their background? What's their agenda? Do you know that? I'd like to know...

Heres the about us page for the source. Though I cant seem to find the article OP is referring to?

Founded by Lawrence (Larry) W. Sinclair (from what started four years ago as allegations against then Senator Barack Obama on January 17, 2008) LS News Group is a 24-hour news site providing original reporting from an experienced team of reporters, thought-provoking commentary and breaking news. Sinclair News reports Political, Legal, Health and Social news in a way that readers find refreshing in a time where so many “mainstream” media organizations choose to censor stories and report only those stories which promote the medias own views & interest. Sinclair has over the past four plus years developed a multitude of Political & News sources in his efforts to expose the truth about Barack Obama on the left, right and center of the political spectrum. Sinclair News broke the news of Herman Cain’s decision to drop out of the 2012 GOP Presidential Primary Race almost a full week before the official announcement was made in Stockbridge, GA. After four plus years of steady solid reporting of stories uncensored and without fear Sinclair decided to form LS News Group and bring on board writers, reporters & columnists from across the political and social spectrum. On January 16, 2012 we have changed our name to Sinclair News – LS News Group. Sinclair News – LS News Group will report the News uncensored & unafraid. LS News Group will offer a variety of news stories, reports & opinions from a variety of individuals from many different backgrounds. LS News Group will bring our readers news that is reported factually and uncensored which the “mainstream” media refuses to do any more. Sinclair News – LS News Group is a free press news agency which depends on our readers support in order for us to be able to cover these news in person and report on it openly and honestly without fear of having our funding withdrawn. We ask that if you like what we do that you support our efforts to bring the news without the bias displayed by the mainstream media outlets.

I copied the about us page because the first sentence makes it sound like they are fear mongering against Obama (not saying they are) plus I wanted to take text from the site since they think they can disable right clicking

< Devil's Advocate if i may;

- control of all property, all resources, all material. to a single cause, debatable who that is or why.
- gun control, north american union, new currencies, UN (a world force) gain power over small policy globally.


yes this is all happening, its all a scary change, and its unfortunate we were born to see it in our own days.

But...
isnt this a revolutionary step toward world peace? ending poverty, 3rd world nation exploiting, hunger, over population, environment destroying nations that must soon share all resources?

yes the constitution is being torn up, but rights for any 1 nations only impede upon rights of another.
we all got so use to waving an american flag, when at the end of the day we are all human and are caring less and less about peoples from abroad.

the coming wars will be bad. many will die, hardships will fall the normally comfortable americans.

summed up:
What about 100 years from now? if things went the way they were 20 years ago, then 100 years from today, the world would still be in a horrible place.

"united we stand, divided we fall"
why must this only apply to united states citizens? it seems a united world, even under a questionable rule, is much closer to perfection then things the way they are now.
at least then there is a step 1, to perfecting that government and evolving society.

But i guess everyone just enjoys countries being in dangerous competition the way its always been.
maybe im just an evil communist, or some dangerous minded NWO a-hole.

reply to post by Milkflavour


You are missing the point.
In this case, the speaker takes another approach. He does not tell you what to think, he just lays it out there for you to decide for yourself. Which, it seems you have already made your mind up. As I said before, if you watch it he tells you where to get the information he is presenting, most of which comes from government sites and the UN website. He just points you in the right direction, the rest is up to you.

Do as you wish.

I'll keep reposting this until the non-believers read it.....in the words of the creators of the UN and the NWO...no middlemen....right from the source:

Originally posted by timetothink
If you are no familiar with NWO start your studies with Rockefellar and work your way out from there:

Given the actions of the Rockefeller family in providing support to the Bolshevik revolution, [4] their instrumental role in the spread of eugenics policies to Nazi Germany, [5] and David Rockefeller’s proud exclamation, “Some.. believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others… to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it,” [6] it would seem that the solution of world government is rising out of crises that the proponents of such a system are fostering.

The Interchurch World Movement (1919 – 1920) In the aftermath of the bloody conflict of World War I, the League of Nations was presented as a solution to the horrendous problems that the world had witnessed. During the same time period that the League of Nations was formed, John D. Rockefeller Jr. launched the Interchurch World Movement (IWM) in 1919. [1] The Interchurch World Movement was the first attempt by Rockefeller to consolidate the churches into a corporate like structure which would exercise control over their activities. The “stability of government”, and the promotion of “harmonious relations” between people in an industrial society that the Rockefeller family was already dominating was a driving force behind the IWM

Samuel Zane Batten wrote a book titled “The New World Order”, published in 1919 by the American Baptist Publication Society. In this book, Batten paints a picture of a world entering a new phase in which a “new order” is rising out of the turmoil of World War. Batten proposed that a “world federation” be created which would be supported by an “international mind” and justified by a faith of “world patriotism.” “World patriotism must be a faith… There is no more justice for the claim of absolute sovereignty on the part of a nation than on the part of an individual… The only alternative is World Federation… with a world parliament… an international court… an international police force… Men must have an international mind before there can be a world federation. They must see and affirm that above the nation is humanity. Internationalism must first be a state of mind, an ideal, a chivalry, a religion, before it can be a reality and a system.” [1] [emphasis added]

The World Council of Churches (1948 – present day) The United Nations – which stands upon land that was donated by John D. Rockefeller Jr. – would replace the failed League of Nations in 1945 after World War II. The World Council of Churches continues to function to this day as an organization intimately aligned with the U.N. As with all previous attempts to centralize the churches, Rockefeller played a pivotal role with the WCC. Chateau de Bossey, located in Switzerland, functions as the World Council of Churches Ecumenical Institute. The institute was bought with money given to the WCC by John D. Rockefeller Jr. [1] During the 1961 third assembly of the World Council of Churches in New Delhi India, the agenda of world government and a new international order was once again revealed. Interdependence, surrender of national sovereignty, and regional institutions were all themes of the third assembly. Representatives from churches around the world were present, one of whom was Rev. H. N. Riber (U.S.A). Riber, as reported by the third assembly summary, “…desired paragraphs 61 and 62 [of the third assembly report] to be strengthened because Christians should be ahead of public opinion in requiring the nations to surrender sovereignty in preparation for world government.” [2]

www.oldthinkernews.com...


That's a good beginning of the scary stuff for you.....if you still like the idea of the UN and the NWO...one government for the world...remember it is a RELIGION...run by the church...still like it??

Please read the article and then do searches on Rockefellar and his support of the Nazi eugenics programs and his quotes on society, if you have a any emotions in you this guy and his family will scare the crap out of you. And they and the Rotheschilds are still in control, their plans are moving along nicely....they are at every secret meeting throughout every year including Bildeberg.

Originally posted by frazzle
reply to post by Bixxi3

 

You know i really used to believe in the conspiracy of a NWO.

Sure you did.

second.

Yep I did infact you can look at my really old posts and see me posting about my views on the NWO. Or you could just contribute nothing to the thread with one liners and stupid faces. Oh wait thats what you did, good job

Originally posted by Triesta

Originally posted by Bixxi3
But I now think that a one world government is just a normal part of our society evolution. As we progress and advance more in technology. When the time comes that we can sort out our energy problems that does not include a resource we have to fight over.

Can you explain why you think it's the governing body's job to govern human consciousness and sense of responsibility? I always thought that was a human being's job.

Im not sure were you got that from my post. I didn't say anything about people governing human consciousness or sense of responsibility? Can you explain?

reply to post by Milkflavour

Have you been hiding under a rock for the last few years?? It is out in the open that there are plans to create a world government, which is just another name for what we call NWO.

Originally posted by reppie
The new world order is a good thing. It unites nations, and this prevents needless war over resources.

The new world order was created by the United Nations PEACE treaty and has been in operation about 80 years. There have been more wars and more invasions of sovereign nations to conquer resources during the existence of the UN PEACE treaty than occurred in all of history. The PEACE treaty hasn't united nations, rather it pits powerful allied nations, such as NATO, with all of its nuclear weaponry, against other nations that have absolutely no defense against the invaders. The resources become booty for NATO's preferred corporate sponsors in the military industrial "branches" of fascist governments.

If you believe world government is a good thing, maybe you could point out a few nations and people the current PEACE treaty has brought peace and prosperity to in its 80 years of operation?

If you believe world government is a good thing, maybe you could point out a few nations and people the current PEACE treaty has brought peace and prosperity to in its 80 years of operation?

All of Europe? There hasn't been a war in Europe since WWII... There have been several conflicts (Kosovo for example) and the UN intervened and brought stability to the nation.... Of course, it's not perfect but there's not mass genocide or a full on conflict raging anymore.... Does that count?

reply to post by Milkflavour

Have you been hiding under a rock for the last few years?? It is out in the open that there are plans to create a world government, which is just another name for what we call NWO.

Yeah, guess I have been... I must have missed that announcement... Could you link me to it maybe and I'll have a read/watch....

reply to post by Bixxi3

Yep I did infact you can look at my really old posts and see me posting about my views on the NWO. Or you could just contribute nothing to the thread with one liners and stupid faces. Oh wait thats what you did, good job

Checking out when people had a personal religious or political conversion isn't something I would normally do, but since you invited me into your past ....

All the way back to your first post in July 2011 ... not a word against the NWO. About all I learned was your apparent disdain for all things American. So in case I missed something, maybe you could back up your claim with HARD FACTS by reposting one of your rants against the new world order from the "old days".

Thanks in advance.

reply to post by Milkflavour

All of Europe? There hasn't been a war in Europe since WWII... There have been several conflicts (Kosovo for example) and the UN intervened and brought stability to the nation.... Of course, it's not perfect but there's not mass genocide or a full on conflict raging anymore.... Does that count?

What? The original membership of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) consisted of Belgium, Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and the United States. Germany had been devastated and was brought to its knees militarily. Many European countries were represented in the original NATO and more were admitted as time passed, so why on earth would they fight each other, they had bigger fish to fry. Still frying them.

Originally posted by Blender Ace

Originally posted by MRuss
4. HERE'S THE ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC PART: A PLAN HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED TO HAVE OBAMA RE-ELECTED AT ANY COST. tHE PLAN IS CALLED "BY ANY MEANS NECCESSARY."

Oh thank God. I was really, really worried that Romney might have a chance at winning. Knowing that the election is a moot point actually made my day.

Falling Skies Reminds me of things to come.
It Won't be aliens .
It will be the NWO.
We vote.
Not Much Choice there.
Too many have been brainwashed already.
US as in U.S.of A.
Wake up world.
At Least the greatest natiion in the world with supposed rights.
BRAINWASHED

It's the USA with the Rockefellers that is pushing the NWO . George Soros is pushing Obama and Socialism . They go together . Nothing has been improved for the black r white people who supported Obama in 4 years and it will only get worse for all . Still the NWO Bilderberg bunch will have their man running on either side of the race . They win either way .For your comfort close your eyes and pretend it's your candidate who is selling you down the river .reply to post by korange

Originally posted by frazzle

Originally posted by reppie
The new world order is a good thing. It unites nations, and this prevents needless war over resources.

The new world order was created by the United Nations PEACE treaty and has been in operation about 80 years. There have been more wars and more invasions of sovereign nations to conquer resources during the existence of the UN PEACE treaty than occurred in all of history. The PEACE treaty hasn't united nations, rather it pits powerful allied nations, such as NATO, with all of its nuclear weaponry, against other nations that have absolutely no defense against the invaders. The resources become booty for NATO's preferred corporate sponsors in the military industrial "branches" of fascist governments.

If you believe world government is a good thing, maybe you could point out a few nations and people the current PEACE treaty has brought peace and prosperity to in its 80 years of operation?

Powerful nations have always invaded and bullied smaller nations. This has been going on forever, even before the UN was formed. So why introduce a concept like nwo when these conditons can be explained by a much simpler theory: expansion of capital.

NWO or UN is just a name. It does not matter what the name of it is. It is the ideal behind it that matters. Call it what ever you want, it is just a name to identify it, no more.