Originally posted by steve1709
Originally posted by DaRAGE
I don't understand what is so horrible about this Agenda 21.
Can someone please clarify why Agenda 21 is bad at all, because from what I have been reading from both of these sources below; is that it is good and beneficial to all:
United Nations - Agenda 21
It's all about protecting the environment, and changing minds and how us humans think and act about the environment. A lot of it is sustainable development.
Honestly look at the table of contents on the UN webpage above and tell me it look hideous and horrible. No it doesn't. So please tell me what the fuss is about?
Read your post and decided to throw in this (haven't read the rest so this might have been answered if so sorry)
In the US, agenda 21 is aiming at setting up areas in which ALL people MUST live. ie high intensity dwellings, then there will be corridors in which NO human activity will take place and around these corridors there will be buffer zones where LIMITED human activity will be permitted. Somewhere on my hard drive I have the clips of all of this but it will take me a long long time to find it due to my hopeless filing system. Maybe someone can help me out with references if you know where im coming from.
So, if after researching some of what i've alluded to here you still think agenda 21 is something good, then maybe you might like to live in one of the highly populated rat mazes they want to set up in the US. And no, other countries aren't left out, there are hundreds of "green areas" proposed for across the globe.
Originally posted by sinohptik
reply to post by RealSpoke
Its not random text at all. This is all directly from the UN, and the various subsidiaries that enact Agenda 21.
I think any logical person is for sustainable living, however, this has to be approached by an individuals decisions. Corporations, etc. are responsible for a significant amount of the environmental impact that we have on the world. But, this agenda does not actually address this. Nor does it address actual societal changes, such as recycling, that could alleviate many of the problems. That is the issue. This is purely a political agenda, without concern for environmental impact, that is disguised under some pretty, nice, and fluffy "coinphrases."
The video posted by skewed may be long, but it is extremely informative. Most about this topic do indeed devolve into confirmation bias, where it will be tied in with countless other conspiracies such as mind control, etc. Those are the ones you have to really use your discernment, but the posted video is simply not one of them.
If you want proof, it is freely available from the UN. Even on their website. Look it up.
Originally posted by steve1709
reply to post by Ex_MislTech
I'm 60 so don't have long left really and as I get older, I won't be able to defend me and mine as well, (the older I get the more rusty are my joints and weaker is my stature. But boy I feel for my kids and their kids. They are going to battle this one. I even went out and bought 1100 acres to set em up but with the way things are going, Im VERY concerned that it will be stolen from them through more and more government control. The bloke down the road cleared along a creek and narrowly escaped a thousands of dollars fine for doing so. And my land is already zoned pink which prohibits clearing. But hopefully, I'll work around that through a couple of loopholes. Then I will at least be able to keep us safe from bush fires. Won't say what else I have in place though. Hope you understand.
Originally posted by MRuss
reply to post by Ex_MislTech
You are really on fire in this thread. I am appreciating your clear, concise replies. Thanks for adding to the integrity of this thread...
Originally posted by Milkflavour
Seriously, the question still stands.... What's so bad about it? Where's the proof that it's an NWO, kill em all, uni-conspiracy to take over the world?
Btw agenda 21 is a voluntary, non-mandatory, un-enforceable suggestion by the UN. It has no legal power to make anyone do anything.... You'd think if it was the big, scary all-powerful NWO they'd have just made it compulsory.....
Guess I'll be accused of being a 'disinfo agent' now.... Wish I was, bet those guys get paid a fortune at the CIA....
Originally posted by olaru12
Originally posted by HoldTheBeans
reply to post by olaru12
Uncle Sam confiscated all the gold not too long ago. Don't think they won't try and take our only means of defending ourselves form them if they get a chance. The screeching anti gun folks would probably raise arms themselves to take ours.
Took all the gold............. Please explain this!! www.goldline.com... and www.golddealer.com...
Any one with the cash can buy as much gold as they want. Not to mention guns.
It's pretty hard to believe someone that is so ill informed. Deny Ignorance....google is our friendedit on 23-7-2012 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)
The NWO doesn't use force unless it has used up all its tricks, and most of their tricks
are tried and true and work most of the time because they are students of human behavior.
Originally posted by Bixxi3
But I now think that a one world government is just a normal part of our society evolution. As we progress and advance more in technology. When the time comes that we can sort out our energy problems that does not include a resource we have to fight over.
Originally posted by Skewed
reply to post by frazzle
You raise a question.
Stepping out side of the box a little bit I have a question that I have not been able to fully answer to my liking yet.
With all the crap going on in the world, is what we are witnessing all done with intent and tptb know exactly what they are doing. Or, is all of this just collateral damage due to idiots making the decisions.
Maybe I still suffer from a slight case of denial but regardless, I see the problems either way and something must be done.edit on 25-7-2012 by Skewed because: (no reason given)
everything that Milkflavour says is true
dude, they're totally going to turn a handful of survivors into zombie slaves and mind control everyone's ass by putting nano machines in the kool aid... seriously...