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Mass shooting in Aurora, CO (At Batman Film Premiere)

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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Manhater
Did you know that while JAMES HOLMES [supposedly was shooting up the theater] at that SAME TIME, KELLY HOLMES was lighting the OLYMPIC TORCH in LONDON.

ODDS in that.

I have heard of coincidences but after watching that youtube video. Seems this kid is just a patsy now.


kelly Holmes was lighting the torch at 8.12 BST on the 21st of July, so it doesn't match up. She would need to be doing it at 7am for the two events to match up.

I could be wrong, someone else should check that too, all the different time zones make it confusing.

The video only seems to be creepy re. the skeletons in the cinema and since when was Ganesh demonic? Maybe to some christians.




posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Manhater

Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
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Katie Holmes!!!! maybe it was the Scientologists.....science, holmes....ugh the whole thing just gets worse..
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Yeah, I was thinking that too about the convenience of how the divorced panned out, then right after, A Holmes character shoots up a movie theater. Not to mention lighting an Olympic flag that Aliens are suppose to attend.

Too coincidental.

I know HOLMES is a common name, but not that common. I mean come on. How obvious can you be?


I mean, I see my name on street signs and garbage trucks, but this is for the birds.



edit on 23-7-2012 by Manhater because: (no reason given)

Oh fer chrissakes, this is really reaching for imaginary straws. Would this hairbrained idea hold the same water if it were Jack Smith going postal on the movie theater, and there were a famed Scientologist named Jane Smith getting divorced, and a Jackie Smith lighting the torch?

I think a lot of ATS members are desperate to have their own theory at hand proven. I mean, come on, Tragedy Porn & the micron of a chance of any conspiracy theory being proven would be a hell of an ego stroke. No wonder so many batcrap theories are crawling out of the woodwork. People project desires much? Speculation is one thing, it's a sport on ATS. But the ones thinking their theory has been somehow proven lock stock & barrel by a similarity or a person not acting exact-afllucking-actly like they think they should does not a theory prove.

Whatever happened to due process? Are these kinds of auto-determinations a symptom of the instant gratification society now? It sure seems like it to me. No one's even willing to wait for all possible evidence to be gathered, all leads to be followed, all possible people connected to be sought out & grilled, et al before they make their grand conclusion anymore before thrusting a fist in the air, declaring "AHA! I SOLVED IT! It was HAARP in the bedroom with the WMDs."



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Yeah but still, the odds that her last name is HOLMES whether the time is the same or not.
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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That was the best answer I could come up with for the question you asked, I was just putting something out there. I will agree that giving a suspect description under those conditions would be rather difficult, however Holmes is pretty tall and would stand out. Again, who knows?



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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I'm just saying...

Too many footprints with trails.


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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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MUGSHOT FINALLY!!!

mugshot



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Manhater
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Yeah but still, the odds that her last name is HOLMES whether the time is the same or not.
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It takes some of the impact away from claims it's all ritualistic if she was doing it 12 hours after the shooting and not At the same time as the video claims.

Honestly i think there's alot of suspicious things about this case but some things people have mentioned have little basis on anything.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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I said Katie Holmes...it was sort of a joke as another poster named others named Holmes.

See things in context before flaming.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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I was watching that second video on the link you posted guess what number was on James soccer jersey,
16

The Century 16 movie theater,

WOW seriously?



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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True, we were probably all wondering just how long Katie Holmes would have to look over her shoulder.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by SUICIDEHK45
MUGSHOT FINALLY!!!

mugshot


That red hair, is killing me, so doesn't match up with his emo style.
Someone find a hairdresser. I can't take it anymore.
Least it matches with his outfit.

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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
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True, we were probably all wondering just how long Katie Holmes would have to look over her shoulder.


Strangely enough, Katie Holmes was pressured to pull out of one of the Batman movies by Tom Cruise. She was replaced by Maggie Gylenhall in 'The Dark Knight'. Some just say she was sacked for her wooden acting.

I admit it did cross my mind how this is taking the pressure off scientology but that is a teensy weensy bit far fetched!



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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When you go to university of colorado website and try to click on their subdomain beagle beagle.colorado.edu/ for Molecular, Cellular and Developmental Biology you cant get in, its been removed but there is this page available
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If you go through the department links on this page the Molecular, Cellular and Developmental Biology is the one that's gone
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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yea sorry for the delay....
but look at this.....also notice how on the summertime video they advertise lil waynes song as a template around the video....freaky




so is that fresh prince or jazzy jeff?
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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This site is a bit spooky, post made by ''The Joker'', about The Illuminati card game, card7 is ''Combined Disaster, Goal: Kill for Peace'' and it says make a disaster the main one and make a secondary disaster.

There is a lot of symbolism around the Joker, and this guy was into the Neurology of fantasy /reality, he was obviously getting ideas from somewhere.

www.ground-zero.biz...


www.godlikeproductions.com...


The constant licking is snake like. That's kind of odd. The card he shows of the man upside down and then the joker himself being upside down in the same position, to me symbolizes that joker knows and understand the true nature of man. The card he holds is the picture from the tarot card The hanged man. The jokers purpose in the movie the dark night is to try to show people themselves by becomming the extreme.

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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by violet
When you go to university of colorado website and try to click on their subdomain beagle beagle.colorado.edu/ for Molecular, Cellular and Developmental Biology you cant get in, its been removed but there is this page available
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If you go through the department links on this page the Molecular, Cellular and Developmental Biology is the one that's gone
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the very day after the shooting they had to take extra precautions with their website (i heard that on the news). you know how many people were trying to get info?? i'm not sure what your point is with the post but it's logical that the school would have to temporarily make things extra hard to get into.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by DrHammondStoat

Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
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True, we were probably all wondering just how long Katie Holmes would have to look over her shoulder.


Strangely enough, Katie Holmes was pressured to pull out of one of the Batman movies by Tom Cruise. She was replaced by Maggie Gylenhall in 'The Dark Knight'. Some just say she was sacked for her wooden acting.

I admit it did cross my mind how this is taking the pressure off scientology but that is a teensy weensy bit far fetched!



Oh, didn't know that. Now that does raise some eyebrow.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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anyone who believes that video needs to see a doctor. SNL actors revealed as playing the victims??? that is the most ridiculous thing i have heard so far and there's a lot of ridiculous stuff in this thread.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Find the idea that this is some sort of CIA-backed attempt at forcing through some sort of anti-gun legislation an interesting idea.

However, I've noticed one or two put the spin on this theory that it is an attempt to push this legislation through so that Americans can no longer get access to guns and other arms so they can no longer defend themselves and is just another step in the attempts to usher in a NWO and I find that an utterly ridiculous attempt at justifying the ready availability of arms in the US.

Also, the MK Ultra theory is a strong possibility but I think that if the many previous massacres that involved firearms in the US haven't changed anything, then I really, truly can't see why this would make the slightest dent in the armour of the usual NRA cronies and that.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by pasiphae
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anyone who believes that video needs to see a doctor. SNL actors revealed as playing the victims??? that is the most ridiculous thing i have heard so far and there's a lot of ridiculous stuff in this thread.


what video???

to add...you see a ridiculus thread right...but if i summarise these 160 plus pages...im sure there is some things that will make you think twice

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