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You cannot radically change something which itself is inherently radical. It just doesn't work.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
and, shockingly, levels of education are rising, life expectancy is rising, infant mortality is falling, democracy is more common than ever... the number of genocidal dictators has fallen... etc., etc.
yes, we have HUGE challenges to face, but... I don't think we're flawed enough to give up on...
Originally posted by PsykoOps
So in the end it's nothing more than campaign politics.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by PsykoOps
So in the end it's nothing more than campaign politics.
Do you realize how ridiculous and trite that commentary is? How stupid it makes you look? I guess you don't!
:shk:
Originally posted by flyswatter
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by PsykoOps
So in the end it's nothing more than campaign politics.
Do you realize how ridiculous and trite that commentary is? How stupid it makes you look? I guess you don't!
:shk:
Do you realize how ridiculous your assumptions about Obama losing make you look? I guess you don't!
Having a grandstanding racist like Arpaio putting this information out both helps and hurts Obama. Those that already like or dislike Obama are likely going to stand firm, but those that were teetering on the edge are likely to be pushed in one way or the other. Those that find Arpaio and his methods credible will likely vote against Obama, while those that are familiar with Arpaio's own issues are less likely to do so.
Net result for Obama? Its a wash. No positive or negative.
Originally posted by crawdad1914
I simply believe partisinship will allways trump the search for truth.
Originally posted by flyswatter
Now, as far as exactly what they were paid for, you will find that much of that probably wont ever be available to you. Attorney client privilege still applies, even with someone of Obama's status.
Originally posted by spoor
Obama's private attorney was working pro bono....
www.obamaconspiracy.org...
Obama attorney in the California case of Keyes v Bowen (one of the three known cases where Obama was represented by private counsel), Fredric Woocher, said: “This suit, like all of the others that have been filed challenging Obama’s qualifications for the Presidency, is frivolous,” he said in an email to POLITICO, adding that he is, in fact, working pro bono. “There is absolutely no truth to the stories about the untold millions supposedly being paid to us,” he said.
In the case of Keyes et al v. Bowen et al (including Obama), the Superior Court of California, County of Sacramento dismissed and awarded costs to defendants. Defendant Bowen was awarded "costs in the amount of $350.00," defendant Obama was awarded "costs in the amount of $520.00," And defendant Biden was awarded "costs in the amount of $520.00."
Exclusive: Obama Attorney Threatens Distinguished Veteran on Obama Birth Certificate Issue: Why?
by MARGARET CALHOUN HEMENWAY April 15, 2009
Read more: Family Security Matters www.familysecuritymatters.org...
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[Editor’s note: Barack Obama’s lawyer, Robert F. Bauer, is threatening a D.C. attorney with “sanctions,” because the attorney is simply requesting that Obama show proof of his birth. (snip) The president of the United States is threatening sanctions – and the word “sanctions” is used in the threat -- against attorney John Hemenway.(snip)]
The entire letter , written by Obama attorney Robert F. Bauer, states the following (and we note that there is no reference in this letter to an existing valid Birth Certificate for Barack Obama, as opposed to a Certificate of Live Birth, and there is no claim that a valid Birth certificate exists which can be shown to the American people, an act that immediately would shut down this query):
“I represent President Barack Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden. I write to request that, in light of the District Court’s March 24, 2009 Rule 11 order in Hollister v. Soetoro, No. 08-2254, you withdraw the appeal filed in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, No. 09-5080. For the reasons stated in Judge Robertson’s order, the suit is frivolous and should not be pursued.
Should you decline to withdraw this frivolous appeal, please be informed that we intend to pursue sanctions, including costs, expenses, and attorney’s fees, pursuant to federal Rule Appellate Procedure 38 and D.C. Circuit Rule 38.”