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Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by VoidHawk
Hate to say it, but that is a reflection off of the window between her and the sky.
Originally posted by adeclerk
reply to post by VoidHawk
No, this is not the real reason for chemtrails. Namely, because chemtrails don't exist.
Surely, if chemtrails existed, information about them would come from better sources than youtube videos from people typing in all caps. "Plasma charges," give me a break!
Instead of people in youtube videos, you should trust actual scientists, you know, people who know what they're talking about.
Originally posted by smurfy
A normal jet exhaust is a chemtrail,
it is not benign,
it has been glossed over.
Anything added to a jet fuel over and above those chemicals, (some of those are proprietary) already used in the jet fuel, is for a purpose other than the functionality and safe running of a jet engine, and the same goes for any spraying device other than an engine that might be attached to an aeroplane. In a word, a chemtrail.
There is no point in determining, or being singular about any jet exhaust on the basis of its longevity alone for instance, as being a chemtrail as it is already a chemtrail in its own right, full stop.
Apart from that in regard to your post, yes there are better sources, but they too have to know all the circumstances, and that includes scientists, and if they are not fully informed, then you cannot wholly trust what they are saying.
Gaseous and Particulate Emissions with Jet
Engine Exhaust and Atmospheric Pollution
A.M. Starik
Central Institute of Aviation Motors
Aviamotornaya St., 2, Moscow, 111116, Russia
e-mail: [email protected]
ABSTRACT
The features of nonequilibrium processes in combustor, postcombustor flow, and in the plume of gas-
turbine engines which are responsible for the formation of gaseous pollutants, mainly, SOx, NOx, COx,
HOx, HSOy, HNOy, and ions as well as for processes that give rise various sorts of volatile and nonvolatile
(with soot core) aerosols and ice particles are considered. The results of numerical simulation as well as
experimental studies of these processes are reported.
Key words: nonequilibrium physico-chemical processes, combustor, plume, pollutants, ions, aerosols,
atmosphere.
INTRODUCTION
The aviation is the source of gaseous and particulate emissions into the atmosphere. The number of
species emitted by jet engine is much enough and depends on a kind of a fuel and on an engine design.
The emission from aviation engines is significantly smaller (in a factor of 40-50) than that from surface
sources. However, because the emissions of aircraft engines occur in the atmospheric regions (high
troposphere and low stratosphere), which are very sensible to various perturbations, the problem of
aviation effect on atmospheric processes and climate change has come into great importance [1].
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by smurfy
And your point is what?
BTW could you please put some ex tags around that, and format some of the lists a bit better to make it readable?
Or even just link to it and provide some highlights as to what you think is relevant?
Originally posted by smurfy
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by smurfy
And your point is what?
BTW could you please put some ex tags around that, and format some of the lists a bit better to make it readable?
Or even just link to it and provide some highlights as to what you think is relevant?
So you did not read one one jot.
No I cannot link to it, but all you need do is to quote a portion in the search engine to find the pdf.
What is relevant, and very important as per your earlier reply is here,
"complexity associated with the chemical composition of kerosene-type fuels is well recognized, and a detailed
computational consideration of all of the fuel components of kerosene would be prohibitive. Doubt et al"
In other words, all that is in jet fuel ingredients/additives is not known, and that nothing is assumed even in that text, in which shows that there are so many imponderables in the known aspects of the fuel, blah blah.
Originally posted by smurfy
I have a full copy in my notebook, which is where the rest was coming from, and copied from the full pdf, not a partial one. Anyway if you'd understood the PDF in its context, the behaviour of jet fuel in its known makeup is itself not fully understood in its behaviour in combustion and exhaust, nothing you have said, which is bascally nothing,contradicts that. A jet trail is very much a chemtrail.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by smurfy
I have a full copy in my notebook, which is where the rest was coming from, and copied from the full pdf, not a partial one. Anyway if you'd understood the PDF in its context, the behaviour of jet fuel in its known makeup is itself not fully understood in its behaviour in combustion and exhaust, nothing you have said, which is bascally nothing,contradicts that. A jet trail is very much a chemtrail.
it seems you are persisting in trying to redefine a chemtrail as any chemical trail in the sky, and ignoring what everyone else thinks it is - which is something deliberately spread for a secret purpose - and therefore, by definition, NOT the normal exhaust from a jet or anything else.
Sorry you do not grasp the fundamentals of what you are talking about, but you are not the first person to try this sophism