Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Haw

Originally posted by CoolStoryMan
the only error is Obama being president....

Yes, some people just cannot stand the fact that Obama is the legal POTUS, and will make any excuse for him being elected, like he was elected in "error"!

reply to post by Partygirl

Whichever candididate we would have gotten, we might very well be having the same argument!

No, because once it was stated that John McCain was in fact a natural born citizen...it was dropped.

You didn't have ny John McCain Birthers...it was a simple "ask a question, get an answer, move on" type of deal.


But for some reason...Birthers don't accept answers...they have already made up their mind...they KNOW Obama wasn't born in Hawaii...now it is just a matter of finding the "evidence" to confirm their belief.

Birthers work in the opposite direction of logic...they make their conclusion first...then look for facts to support that pre-determined conclusion.

Originally posted by Jedimind
the "fact checking error" persisted for sixteen years, through at least three different versions of Jane Dystel's website, and through at least four different versions of Obama's biography. - Breitbart.com, breitbartnews

If anyone could explain to me how this can be explained away I'd love to hear it. I will not accept that Obama hadn't once seen it over an entire 16 years.

Then don't accept it...that is your right.

Just don't speculate beyond that...because you have no proof for anything beyond that.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by Screwed

 

You do know Kenya didn't exist when Obama was born....right???

I already refuted this from another poster on page 17, but I will post it again. Kenya most certainly was around before Obama was born, unless you are saying that Obama is 92 years old.
wiki.answers.com...
Kenya was established and named in 1920. It was a British colony, but it was still Kenya. In 1963, probably what you are referring to, Kenya declared independence from Great Britain. The name of Kenya did not change. I won't wait for you to reply to my post, because I don't think you will.

Just trying to deny ignorance here.

reply to post by sonnny1

You "believe" its a mistake. I "believe" its a lie. Can you find me anymore mistakes,this women has made,in the SAME booklet ?

Does she have to make multiple mistakes in order for her to make one mistake???

That is some solid logic you got there.

Let me first just say, LOVE the avatar, it looks like you're ready to roll!

Originally posted by Screwed
I would simply say that it is getting rather fishy as more and more EVIDENCE is coming out which would suggest that he was born elsewhere.

What evidence?

Let's see here.

There are two articles mentioning Obama as Kenyan born. Neither of them are specifically about Obama's birth where abouts.One author admitted to making a mistake, the other was a modified version of an original AP article that mentioned no such thing.

We have a number of fake Kenyan birth certificates....

We had a formed Hawaiian elections clerk who claimed that he was informed by his supervisor that no birthcertificate was found on record. To date he hasn't proved any of this was fact, the supposed supervisor hasn't come out admitting to anything, Hawaiian elections officials contradict the claims of this man.

What else?

Lay it all on us.

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nedo thanks!! Beezzer youre best budy is defending them in that.. Would he if it where Obama? I didnt bother to look for you, but i think we all know the answer.

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
I believe that nothing will change you're mind, because clearly you're biased.

I believe Obama is not being Honest. Millions of others believe the same thing.

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
of course, because if you took it for truth, you wouldn't be able to hang onto the delusion that Obama cannot qualify for a second term.

Assumption. Second, Im not a "birther" I want the truth.

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
You mean Paul is guilty of writing those articles? Not merely held accountable? Because those can be two different things.

He might be. . The least I can say,is I weighed ALL of it out.


MANY believe hes guilty,outright. I know you would agree with that. But I wont call you biased,or anything.....

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Sure you are, being an registered indepedent doesn't automatically make you impartial or neutral on political issues. Most far right folk I've come across don't consider themselves Republican because it isn't far right enough for them. You don't have to explain yourself in this to me.

Funny. You answered your OWN question,with your own assumption. Why even ask it,if you have your own opinion spelled out,on who I am?

reply to post by sonnny1


You have your own opinion spelled out for who Obama is.. Why is that a mystery to you?

Originally posted by Partygirl

Originally posted by Resurected

Its laughable that you all use brietbart as a legit source for information IMO..

The woman who edited the book already aditted its her work.She says it is a mistake, but she at least admits its a fact that this material exists.

Do you consider Harvard University "laughable"? How about the NY times, Wall Street Journal? None of them are denying the existence of this artifact.

Kneejerk rejection to any given source is pure ignorance, nothing less. Must be warm and cozy in that ostritch-hole you've got your head in...

The reason it is laughable is because Brietbart could have done more leg work to find out the story behind it.

But they didn't...and they published it...and the author came out and said it was her error...and now the Brietbart website looks like a bunch of jackasses like they always do.

Originally posted by Resurected
reply to post by sonnny1

 

You have your own opinion spelled out for who Obama is.. Why is that a mystery to you?

Based on Facts.

Not Emotions......

Do you want to know why I dislike Obama ?

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by CoolStoryMan
the only error is Obama being president....

Yes, some people just cannot stand the fact that Obama is the legal POTUS, and will make any excuse for him being elected, like he was elected in "error"!

He wasn't elected in error......but his entire presidency is one

reply to post by sonnny1


Fact like the birther facts we have today? Fact from brietbart and frienge right wing sites?

Originally posted by Resurected
reply to post by sonnny1

 

Fact like the birther facts we have today?

NDAA Fast and Furious,etc.........

Shall I go on ?

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Go on go on!

NDAA didnt do much to anyone so far.... Not that hasnt been done under Bush.. And i personaly am not happy that it continues but atleast it has been curbed some under Obama.. And we all know Obama was on a corner selling AK's personaly, so yah! Good call! We know he called escorts personaly for those secret service guys too! *sarcasm for any who might mistake me*

Hello to ATS and its members,

Mr Obama is the best thing the United States had in many years of warr starting greedy presidents.
He restored situacions of your previous f criminal minded presidents and he give everybody a chance on decent healtcare
You should open your eyes !!!!
That president Obama in relation to other world-mights, countries and peoples puts dialogue first and does not immediately use threatening might-words in order to put others under pressure and to terrorise them is something that appears to a part of the American people as a sign of weakness and not knowing what to do and even as cowardice, because their mentality is still strongly marked by the stereotype of the gunman and cowboy, which is inclined to rely on weapons and Gewalt (The German word Gewalt is definied as «to use physical, psychical, mental, and consciousness-related powers, abilities and skills with all available coercive means in order to carry through and carry out actions and deeds.) as the sole means for the solving of problems. Apparently this part of the US-population has very little interest and respect for other cultures and peoples because it is of the view that everything revolves, or should revolve, around the USA and that the entire world should submit itself to the USA or should at least adapt to the “US way of life”. In contrast, Obama is a president who is open to the world, modest and eloquent, knows and esteems other peoples, religions and cultures, and for this reason does not constantly boast of US-values in order to impose these on all the others. Therefore, it could not have turned out any differently than his being hated by that part of the American people who only knows the language and gestures of the use of Gewalt, the threat of war, the exploitation of the economy, and the brutal domination of the world, and that they also attempt to vilify the president and to insult him and to expose him as being incompetent with all means, whether through television programs, caricatures, cover pictures, newspaper articles, political smear campaigns, satirical internet sites and all possible propaganda tricks, in order to destroy his public and private image. While doing so, these brainless critics and evil slande rers never consider what positive results the Obama politics have already brought not only America, but the entire world. The following are some of them:

With regards to foreign policy he has within one year eased the great and dangerous tensions between the USA and other world-mights, offered the Islamic countries dialogue instead of war as well as started or got underway a nuclear disarmament process with Russia which is on a scale that has not happened in decades.
He has ordered the closing of the human-rights violating prison camp in Guatánamo and imposed the ban of torture practices by intelligence services and police officials as a means for extorting confessions from suspected terrorists.
He has openly criticised Israel’s expansion and settlement politics as well as taken a neutral position in the Israel-Palestine conflict and encouraged both parties to dialogue and to concrete peace negotiations.
He has distanced himself from the reprehensible US-practice with regard to foreign affairs of again and again interfering militarily or with the secret service in the internal affairs of other countries and acting as the world-police everywhere.
Instead he has treated other countries as equal partners in talks and offered them co-operation and partnership, and also, when necessary, made help available as for example in the case of the earthquake in Haiti, and that without pursuing deceitful world domination objectives.
He has explained the complete and step-wise withdrawal of US troops as necessary and initiated it, as well as put in place plans to solve the Afghanistan-question.
With regards to domestic politics he has put into power a historical healthcare reform which has secured over 35 million Americans a form of healthcare which they previously could not afford.
He has initiated a government investment plan in the amount of 787 billion dollars for the rescue of the US economy and of the banking system, which as massive stimulus of the economy has had an effect and has cared for that the worst effects of the crisis, such as mass unemployment and impoverishment of society, were contained or substantially softened, which were caused by the predator-capitalists who are driven by unrestrained greed for money and who trample under foot every ethic, moral and all human-values because they are ready to go over corpses for the sake of profit.
He has bluntly attacked the excessively high extra-payments for bank managers – through which the businesses and banks that they manage are driven into ruin – and in doing so has announced limits for the managers’ salaries.

Originally posted by Resurected
reply to post by sonnny1

 

Go on go on!

How about you give me your PROS about obama,as I give you my CONS.

That's fair,right ?

Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen
Well, heck.

This is going to take something big to distract people. Like maybe Chicago blowing up.

What's going on this weekend in Chicago, anything?

p.s. This IS a conspiracy forum, right?

i'll be there this weekend, cameras in tow. ill post if anything happens...lol!
WELL HEY THAR>>>>guess his granny was telling the truth!

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Because i never offered to, now continue with the grand list which you offered to put forward.