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reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 04:13 PM by Parture
Originally posted by MysterX
You're obviously discounting the possibility that Satan or his minions have done what they do best, and fraudulently presented the Bible as the word of God, when in fact they drafted the whole thing.

What better and more cruel joke to decieve the righteous could there be than to coerce Gods followers into actually following the words of Satan.

Unless you have a time machine / interdimentional travel system handy to go back and check the scribes were not under the influence of the beast when they wrote the scriptures?

Gods plan, could actually be Satans plan, and you could be following it obediently and fulfilling his counter plans for humanity to a T.

There would be no greater triumph for him than to use our gullibility and free will against us in such a way...and for the master of deception and illusion, it would have been a fairly easy thing to achieve too.

The 'word' may indeed be the words of a cunning reptile.

You think Satan exists who is actually God of the Bible and Satan is in fact the uncreated Creator? so that it was in fact the uncreated Creator who murdered Jesus and not a pawn of Satan? That's a contradiction because Satan is a created being and the uncreated Creator would have power over a created being so you contradict yourself.

Christians are not coerced. It's our free choice just as it is your free choice to reject Christ.

Almost all scholars agree the original Apostles believed they saw Jesus alive from the dead in various group settings. It is as evidential as you can get with their testimony in the NT. So you don't need a time machine. They truly beileved it in their heart of hearts. Paul said he spent 15 days with Peter, and with John and with James, who conveyed to him the same eyewitness testimony. Again, people don't willingly die for a lie so you know they weren't lying.

If deception was fairly easy to achieve then how come you can't come up with a plausible scenario to account for their written record?
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reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 04:19 PM by Sailor Sam
Originally posted by Parture
Since Jesus said we can know when He returns "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) then how do we figure out when He returns?

Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel's final seven) from when the Tribulation starts. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic prophetic working unit, and it is 7 years x 360 days per year.

The last 3 feasts pertain to when Jesus returns. Feast of Trumpets (representing the first rapture according to readiness, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 at 9.7 "before the throne") commences the 7 year Tribulation, and the 2,520th day must land on Tisha B'Av, the day the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed, for Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years on earth with His overcomers. Not all who are saved receive this reward though all saved do get to enter the New City after the 1000 years. Consider this consequences for slothful Christians.

Furthermore, we know the "branch is tender" (Matt. 24.32) because Israel is a nation again and the Total Lunar Tetrads coincide with when Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and entered Jerusalem June 7, 1967 as the signs in the heavens. The 8th feast Tetrad since Christ is 2014/15. And there are exactly 2,520 days from Sept. 14 Feast of Trumpets 2015 to Aug. 7 Tisha B'Av 2022. Not so for 2014-21 or 2016-23.

To further seal the deal, not that we need more proof, the 3 events that occur right before the Tribulation starts (Rev. 6.12) in exact order are the great earthquake (either 320,000 killed in Haiti 2010 or 5th greatest in magnitude, Japan 2011), the blacksackcloth sun Nov. 3, 2013 (rarest of all, the 4th H3 Hybrid since Christ), and of course the Total Lunar Tetrad 2014/15 that only falls on passover and tabernacles and won't happen again till 2582/83. The H3 won't happen again till 2172.

If you care to include other evidences like the Malachy Prophecy (religious Rome destroyed in the 1st half of the Tribulation in Rev. 8 in agreement with 17.16), the prophecy of Jubilees, and Ezekiel's prophecy that takes us to exactly May, 1948 when Israel would become a nation again this only strengthens the timeline.

Considering the last drop of conventional oil is 2035 when 900 billion barrels (current estimate of available oil by industry reports) are used up at an average of 100 million barrels a day, the war over this resource will be a good 15 years before that to control the flow of oil in the middle east. Hence, 200 million military units in the middle east (Rev. 9.16) and the nuclear exchange (v.18). This fits perfectly with the timeline of the 6th and 7th trumpets from Aug. 20, 2020 to Aug. 7, 2022. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the latter date.

Now that you know this what do you do? "Overcometh" so that you become a spiritual Christian and not a carnal one to receive your reward to be first raptured and return with Christ to reign 1000 years. Many Christians don't care for this reward so they will lose this blessing (Rev. 1.3).



Source: biblocality.com.../97-2015-to-2022
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Just another posting by a religious "believer", who espouses fact when in reality ithe fact is just a belief, nothing more, nothing less.
Question - What will Jesus look like?


reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 04:21 PM by Parture
Originally posted by Sailor Sam
Originally posted by Parture
Since Jesus said we can know when He returns "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) then how do we figure out when He returns?

Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel's final seven) from when the Tribulation starts. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic prophetic working unit, and it is 7 years x 360 days per year.

The last 3 feasts pertain to when Jesus returns. Feast of Trumpets (representing the first rapture according to readiness, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 at 9.7 "before the throne") commences the 7 year Tribulation, and the 2,520th day must land on Tisha B'Av, the day the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed, for Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years on earth with His overcomers. Not all who are saved receive this reward though all saved do get to enter the New City after the 1000 years. Consider this consequences for slothful Christians.

Furthermore, we know the "branch is tender" (Matt. 24.32) because Israel is a nation again and the Total Lunar Tetrads coincide with when Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and entered Jerusalem June 7, 1967 as the signs in the heavens. The 8th feast Tetrad since Christ is 2014/15. And there are exactly 2,520 days from Sept. 14 Feast of Trumpets 2015 to Aug. 7 Tisha B'Av 2022. Not so for 2014-21 or 2016-23.

To further seal the deal, not that we need more proof, the 3 events that occur right before the Tribulation starts (Rev. 6.12) in exact order are the great earthquake (either 320,000 killed in Haiti 2010 or 5th greatest in magnitude, Japan 2011), the blacksackcloth sun Nov. 3, 2013 (rarest of all, the 4th H3 Hybrid since Christ), and of course the Total Lunar Tetrad 2014/15 that only falls on passover and tabernacles and won't happen again till 2582/83. The H3 won't happen again till 2172.

If you care to include other evidences like the Malachy Prophecy (religious Rome destroyed in the 1st half of the Tribulation in Rev. 8 in agreement with 17.16), the prophecy of Jubilees, and Ezekiel's prophecy that takes us to exactly May, 1948 when Israel would become a nation again this only strengthens the timeline.

Considering the last drop of conventional oil is 2035 when 900 billion barrels (current estimate of available oil by industry reports) are used up at an average of 100 million barrels a day, the war over this resource will be a good 15 years before that to control the flow of oil in the middle east. Hence, 200 million military units in the middle east (Rev. 9.16) and the nuclear exchange (v.18). This fits perfectly with the timeline of the 6th and 7th trumpets from Aug. 20, 2020 to Aug. 7, 2022. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the latter date.

Now that you know this what do you do? "Overcometh" so that you become a spiritual Christian and not a carnal one to receive your reward to be first raptured and return with Christ to reign 1000 years. Many Christians don't care for this reward so they will lose this blessing (Rev. 1.3).



Source: biblocality.com.../97-2015-to-2022
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Just another posting by a religious "believer", who espouses fact when in reality ithe fact is just a belief, nothing more, nothing less.
Question - What will Jesus look like?

The evidence is given, now the burden is on you to overturn this evidence. If you can't it only gives more strength to the proof.
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reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 04:30 PM by Sailor Sam
reply to post by Parture



Parture - What has been given is someone "belief", no evidence.
Hell even the earthquake as a sign is a guess, it may be this one or that one or even a third I don't know about?
I don't need to offer any evidence, I am stating that what is supposed to be evidence is just a belief.
I am not trying to convince others that my belief is the factual truth, that is what you are trying to do with the OP.
As yet you not offered proof, just passages from a book that has been mistranslated by numerous people anyway to suit their own ends.

So what will Jesus look like - A long haired, sandal wearing hippy, a spiv in a business suit, a fatigue wearing Rambo with a machine gun, a Roman Catholic, a Southern Baptist or a Protestant?
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