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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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TREYVON WAS a 17 year old KID!! a f%$# kid! I am 5 foot 11 142 lbs and have not be scared by a seventeen year old kid since I was about...wait for it...17! ZimmerbitchDoche was 250 lbs! get the hell out of town he was afraid for his life... It seems you forgot the some unarmed kid(that you don't even know) regardless of any other reason is not going to get to have a life. Not going to get to see his child born, not going to give his daughter away to a worthy man! If you think Zimmerman should be any where other the jail, you are a racist narrow-minded sheep. It is funny how the people that think the "world" is sleeping, are in fact the very sleepers that are holding back humanity...




posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:36 PM
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He doesn't lose his stand your ground right just because he went against the communities by laws...one has nothing to do with the other...

No matter what he has the right to defend himself if he is attacked.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:36 PM
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Lol its cool, afte 45 pages I'm losing track too



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Zimmerman needs to go into hiding for sure....

www.cnn.com...#/video/crime/2012/03/24/sot-wesh-panther-presser-muhammad.wesh


So the Black Panther party is saying that the "white" community is killing these black kids??? ....
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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A 6'3" 17 year old who was punching him in he face...do you know how any juveniles are in jail for killing people..

wow....that makes no sense...he's 17 so he can't be dangerous..what world do you live in?



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Yes there may have been a fight.
Zimmerman sounds like he instigated it
regardless of the "fight" there is ZERO justification for Zimmerman blasting this kid to death. None and people are forgetting that.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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Punch in the face. justifies gun shot.
whatever makes you feel better
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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But again under the circumstance he "SHOULD" not have confronted Trayvon or been carrying a weapon himself which you claim might have peaked his interest in Trayvon.


Irrelevant.

Neighborhood Watch Guidelines have no legal binding.

I can contract armed body guards to watch my property, legally; and to handle suspicious individuals in a manner consistent with the law.

Each neighborhood watch sets its own policies and directives.

While the quoted person's instructions are "correct" - they are not necessarily practical, depending upon the goals of the watch program. If the watch program is intended to be a defense against crime - then the stated "call police" is horribly inadequate and simply insufficient. If the watch program is merely supposed to be a proactive crime reporting initiative - then it is perfectly fine.

It basically holds no bearing, legally.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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So when did getting punched in the face = right to kill someone?(im not just talking about legal rights).



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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Anyone else think that this new black panther party is just a bunch of ignornant racists too??? Maybe they need to find a new spokesman for their group...



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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You know ,it's simple.
Who chased who.
Who attacked who.
Was the person who was chased and attacked actually committing a crime.
And if a crime was committed,did it warrant being killed ,did somebody feel that their life was in danger.

All I have to say is see what the courts say,so be done with it.
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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If he felt his life was in danger...he had that right...that is what the law is for.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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Depends on if he felt his life was in danger...that is why the law exists....plenty of people have been beaten to death.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by CoolStoryMan
 


If he felt his life was in danger...he had that right...that is what the law is for.


So he had the right to shoot someone? show me where.
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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THIS

Chris Tutko, director of Neighborhood Watch for the National Sheriffs' Association, said Zimmerman broke some cardinal rules. First, he approached a stranger he suspected of wrongdoing. "If you see something suspicious, you report it, you step aside and you let law enforcement do their job," Tutko said. "This guy went way beyond the call of duty. At the least, he's overzealous." Second, Zimmerman carried a handgun. Police departments and sheriff's offices that train volunteers advise them never to carry weapons — though Zimmerman broke no laws by doing so because he has a concealed-weapons permit. "There's no reason to carry a gun," Tutko said.


By FOLLOWING as shown on the 9-11 tapes, he DOES loose his "stand your ground" claim.

Know the "stand your ground law"

(2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if: (a) The person against whom the defensive force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person;

Trayvon was allowed there


(b) “Residence” means a dwelling in which a person resides either temporarily or permanently or is visiting as an invited guest.



PLUS

776.041 Use of force by aggressor. —The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who: (1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless: (a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or (b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.


(check out section b) as his calls to his GF which is NOT hearsay according to others show he tried to leave this man following him and had reason to suspect threat to his own safety.
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I WILL DESTROY THIS TREAD WITH LOGIC MUHUHAHAHAHAHA
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going for a coffe, will respond later
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
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If he felt his life was in danger...he had that right...that is what the law is for.



He needlessly put himself in that situation,he didn't have to pursue the kid,he chose to do it,his life didn't depend on it.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
this again....lets break it down for even you,
911 isnt the Police
Martin wasnt a little 12 year old, he was 6'3" and 170


He was 6'0" and 140 lbs.

You have already been corrected on this when you got it wrong with different numbers last time. Are you just making it up as you go?



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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Did Zimmerman have a concealed weapons license?
I would presume, him being a want to be police officer, he most likely did?
I've not kept up with this as deeply as others have...



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
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Do you even bother to read what you reply to?

Jesiah claimed they sent a narcotics officer instead of homicide...which there is no proof of and an Officer is just that an Officer...A homicide detective or Narco detective is different and they usually take over with the



How does that make any sense. And - - if a Narcotics officer found someone shot dead - - why would they not request a homicide detective?

Logic escapes me here.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by R4inM4n
 


A 6'3" 17 year old who was punching him in he face...do you know how any juveniles are in jail for killing people..

wow....that makes no sense...he's 17 so he can't be dangerous..what world do you live in?


Why do you guys keep making excuses for this guy....




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