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Originally posted by Patriotsrevenge
reply to post by EvanB
The Majority here on ATS are anti-everything and that includes our men in women in the armed forces. I could not agree with your statements more.
Originally posted by Brotherman
reply to post by nightbringr
I had edited the post because i reread it and think it came out a little wrong moving on
The military enforces democracy, not coup's of our own government so overthrowing the government is out of the question because then it will be Americans on Americans because not everyone will go along with that. Now as far as voting is concerned my political views are irrelevant all I was illustrating is that democracy does not work in the services favor our numbers are very little and not everyone agrees for some ending wars means ending means to pay their bills. As far as being daft lol. I will simply say about corruption of the government yes its there but I am not so HIGH AND MIGHTY as you suggest but there is simply alot of things I don't know. I just don't know I don't have any answers but being a Marine Corps Veteran I believe I have the right to view things about the armed services as to where children can think what they want about daddies service or whatever, I will say the whole situation after 8 years left me with a bad taste in my mouth, and now I am out of the service.
Originally posted by EvanB
Originally posted by aaron2209
Why do you fight if not for your government or your people? Just curious.
We are sent where your vote sends us....
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by EvanB
Originally posted by aaron2209
Why do you fight if not for your government or your people? Just curious.
We are sent where your vote sends us....
Then I vote for you and every other soldier to stand guard all along OUR shores and along the Canadian and Mexican borders. Maybe then we'll be able to take a flight within the country without being stripped, probed and x-rayed.
I fully respect veterans for having the guts to put themselves in harm's way no matter where they fought, but that doesn't mean I approve of forcing our beliefs on other countries. That doesn't mean I approve of stirring up the fanatical, unbreakable Middle East just for our sip of oil.
As a nation I vote to lead by example, not by a gun.
Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by NightGypsy
You live in the land of the false sense of security and strength... Those things have been provided by people like me..
Originally posted by The X
As for the UK, this country has been subverted by a political mindset that now controls all aspects of politics.....
Originally posted by EvanB
You are not....
Why the hell should any of us put our lives on the line for any of you??..
Because it is a profession as much as becoming a carpenter, lawyer or doctor...
Which supposed to look after housing et al after service.. We get none of that.. And am just left for dead by our own country.. Same for the wounded.. Infact foreigners take priority..
Nobody fights for us... Why should we fight for you??
That is the consensus amongst the troops..
Basically..
Originally posted by WatchRider
There ought to be a re-distribution of power away from the ruling-elites to the local authorities and peoples.
Originally posted by EvanB
You pay our wages??
Originally posted by EvanB
Do you think that we become soldiers to "Get Paid"???
Originally posted by EvanB
Soldiering is a calling... If you are forced into it by conscription then that does not count.
In the west we are volunteers...
Originally posted by EvanB
That may sound strange but an integral part of humanity has always had its soldiers..
Originally posted by EvanB
Why??
Originally posted by EvanB
Because it is a profession as much as becoming a carpenter, lawyer or doctor...
Originally posted by EvanB
We are not brainless morons... Imagine having to get 28 guys from a to b without being seen or heard, using the ground to its best advantage, with one foot on the ground that covers the moves.. Then the reaction to effective enemy fire, locating the enemy, the assault; which is done out of sight of the enemy with the ground being used to best advantage.
Originally posted by EvanB
My government always goes on about "the military covenant"
Which supposed to look after housing et al after service.. We get none of that.. And am just left for dead by our own country.. Same for the wounded.. Infact foreigners take priority..
Originally posted by EvanB
Nobody fights for us... Why should we fight for you??
Originally posted by EvanB
That is the consensus amongst the troops..
Basically..
##SNIP##
We will look after you when you look after us...
It has been a long time coming...
And I for one agree..