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Originally posted by jonnywhite
And one more comment in addition to the one I made 1-2 pages ago.
Probably 95% of the people believe a military must be in place for defense. So this means left or right or center will support a budget for a military. But it's the details where you will get disagreement.
It's the details where skepticism and ignorance will prohibit a perfect agreement.
Remember, there're two people:
1) gives honor and respect to soldiers without question.
2) only gives honor and respect if they feel it's deserved.
And those in number 2 that don't give respect/honor are just uneducated and/or ignorant.edit on 16-3-2012 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by SmArTbEaTz
"A soldier with a voice"
However we do not get heard
Our married quarters are being taken from us.. A lot are in squalid conditions.. There are troops starving in the barracks because food is not subsidised anymore.. When you leave you are left for dead by your country who supposedly has a covenant with its servicemen/women..
The country broke its covenant with us first..
The only honour in serving is being with the guys we serve with.. I used to be proud of serving my country, and would have died for it...
Originally posted by EvanB
You are not....
Why the hell should any of us put our lives on the line for any of you??..
You pay our wages??
Do you think that we become soldiers to "Get Paid"???
You can stick your taxes where the sun does not shine!
Soldiering is a calling... If you are forced into it by conscription then that does not count..
In the west we are volunteers...
That may sound strange but an integral part of humanity has always had its soldiers..
Because it is a profession as much as becoming a carpenter, lawyer or doctor...
We are not brainless morons... Imagine having to get 28 guys from a to b without being seen or heard, using the ground to its best advantage, with one foot on the ground that covers the moves.. Then the reaction to effective enemy fire, locating the enemy, the assault; which is done out of sight of the enemy with the ground being used to best advantage..
Learning the weapons systems, navigation (not sat nav) using a map and compass.. Advanced first aid.. Advanced tactics.. language skills.. Survival in any conditions... Local customs and laws.. The list is endless.
My government always goes on about "the military covenant"
Which supposed to look after housing et al after service.. We get none of that.. And am just left for dead by our own country.. Same for the wounded.. Infact foreigners take priority..
Nobody fights for us... Why should we fight for you??
That is the consensus amongst the troops..
We will look after you when you look after us...
It has been a long time coming...
And I for one agree..
edit on Thu Mar 15 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: Mod Note: Do Not Evade the Automatic Censors – Please Review This Link.