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Soldiers: "You (civilians/countrymen) Are Not Worth Fighting For!!!"

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posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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Must be a pretty cold dark place you are in OP; fighting a war for no reason but your soldier calling. Why not just do it for the private sector? They pay well for professional, career killers, and aren't interested in blokes who use the word "patriotism" or "defender". They want cold-blooded killing machines period. There's the calling I'm sure you're destined for.




posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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The reason we are in Afghan is to support the elected goverment (dont laugh) of that country against the Taliban. To be honest I would rather support a corrupt goverment who at least gives people a chance in life, woman and children in school, music, medical care... than a bunch of religious mad men who blew the back of a womans head off because, this is true I was out there when it happend, because she ALLOWED herself to be raped.

As for the drugs, in 2009 there was a system set up to give any farmer that wanted free seed to grow grain instead of poppies, the Taliban put up road blocks and told the locals that anyone who went near the pick up stations would be killed, the plan for grain failed and now the streets are awash with that heroin s**t.

And as as for going against China and Russia, not a chance, they have nukes and that would be game over. Iran on the other hand....I'll say 4 months tops before something goes down .



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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Sorry, double post there.





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posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 10:52 PM
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Why should Americans die for people in the Middle East?

Why don't they grow a set and start their own revolution just like we did if they want to be like us?



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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Many don't think of our soldiers. They like to distance themselfs from war and everything about it "because they can."
But one also has to remember that there are people who support our troops. I know I have the deepest respect for our troops and soldiers in general if they fight for their country and way of life. it sounds like you have or are serving. For whatever it matters, thank you.



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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I was going to relate something of this nature.

[ Shut the front door ! My God OP ! As if the american people aren't already getting the big red white and blue
whammy from all 360 degree points. Now we got to hear it from you too. I think you're right in a way actually.
We're not worth fighting for anymore and I can tell you exactly why.

Now read this !

What good is a soldier who fails to see the enemy ? This thread testifies to that ? You went to fight over there but can't see an enemy. Now you're looking in the wrong place again. Isn't the first thing a soldier learns is how to identify an enemy and to know where the enemy is ? All I see in you is a total fail. So naturally I'm not worth fighting for and like most in this thread I don't let anyone fight my battles for me. Just wasn't raised that way man.

Now bring your silly americanised butt home and maybe I'll let you help me fight the real enemy you can't seem to find or just don't want to see.

" When soldiers learn to think for themselves, there will be none left in the ranks " Ferdinand The Great ]

But it seems our soldier has been carpet bombed back to the stone age in this thread.
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posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by rtyfx
Why should Americans die for people in the Middle East?

Why don't they grow a set and start their own revolution just like we did if they want to be like us?


They have started a revolution.

They're fighting it against you.



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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There is nothing noble about killing people. Pointing a gun and firing because you're told to doesn’t make you strong, it just exposes your weakness. Throw down your weapons and with it your hatred and you'll release yourself of a burden that will surely kill you.



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:28 PM
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seems to me like you and apparently a lot of our military is just there to go out and kill people.....



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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Not to belittle you, as soldiering is a very tough and difficult following, but does the soldiers still abide by their oaths? You know the oath to Protect America from all enemies foreign and domestic?

Therein, is where the answer to your dilemma rests.

That said though, the average citizenry often go out of their way to aid and accommodate military personal and veterans. For all intensive purposes, America is a soft, one party authoritative state. Look at what the democratic-Republican Party is doing to Ron Paul. And look at how the military is allowing a Presidential election to be rigged.



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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sorry god bless the usa



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by AwakeinNM
 


My anger is in the right place,,, YOU......


Fight for us and we will die for you

Even for a 1 bedroom council flat.....


Oh shut up you spoiled brat.

Number 1, if you have served, I imagine you had some section 12s in your carrier whine bag.

Number 2. If you are to dumb to have reviewed history in high school and to have known how soldiers are treated, thats on you. Did you think it was a different kind of "suck" that you were going to embrace?

Number 3. By the age of 18, you should have already known the true nature of Humans.

Because Humans suck, and you are a super private douche bag, that does not mean it is anyone elseses vault but your own ignorance of Human nature.

You are part of that gimmie generation. If you had known history, you will know that General Patton killed a bunch of vets in DC while the where protesting their lack of back pay from World War 1.

It is YOU who has been living in la la illusion land due to your naive ignorance.And upon waking up you are now angry at everyone, and feel entitled as a private puke to act like you have a golden sack dangling between your panties.

YOU DONT private puke.

Embrace the suck, or remove your DNA from the pool.



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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HermitShip - squared away.



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM
By the way, the anti-war socialist scumbags who disrespect you do not represent us.


Wow. So being anti-war is being a scumbag, is it? What isn't being a scumbag then, pray tell?

Is it an unquestioning belief in America's supposed sovereign right, to vapourise literally any other country it pleases, down to the bedrock?



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by Nite_wing
 


I have been in the military all of my adult life, but when I leave I cannot even get social housing because foreigners take president...

PTSD is rife... With no help....

THAT is the bomb that will make you take notice..


Hey Evan!

You have to point the finger at the brownnosing generals who always talk crap about their idiot little "lessons learned" BS speeches. Here's a "lesson learned"... during Nam they FINALLY got smart and realized that allowing B2B tours drove people nuts. They then forbid it by making people spend a year stateside before putting in to go back. THEY KNEW THIS and have raped the hell out of you guys. some units had hardly been stateside 4 months before going back to Iraq in some cases.

I'm a 22 yr vet Marine Corps. I have said what you have said. I have done SOME of what you have done, but you brothers have been short changed on PURPOSE by idiot smack axx leaders that sren't worth their eagles and stars.

Be at peace with us knuckleheads because we will side with you as you need us and we know deep down that you will side with us.

I' with ya though. We just know that we can't take it out on the empty heads. They are blameless even if stupid.



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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I gave you an order, soldier.



Is there some confusion here?


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posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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reply to post by petrus4
 

Hilarious signature.



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by Bigfoot12714
reply to post by EvanB
 


seems to me like you and apparently a lot of our military is just there to go out and kill people.....


This statement contains far more truth, than most soldiers are willing to admit. If they were willing to be more open about their tendencies towards being psychopathic, gleefully homicidal, canine/human hybrids, I'd probably have a lot more respect for them than I do.

It's their denial of the fact that they simply want to murder people of different ethnic groups, and their need to falsely glorify it, that is truly offensive.
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posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by EvanB
You are not....

Why the hell should any of us put our lives on the line for any of you??..

You pay our wages??

Do you think that we become soldiers to "Get Paid"???

You can stick your taxes where the sun does not shine!

Soldiering is a calling... If you are forced into it by conscription then that does not count..

In the west we are volunteers...

That may sound strange but an integral part of humanity has always had its soldiers..

Why??

Because it is a profession as much as becoming a carpenter, lawyer or doctor...

We are not brainless morons... Imagine having to get 28 guys from a to b without being seen or heard, using the ground to its best advantage, with one foot on the ground that covers the moves.. Then the reaction to effective enemy fire, locating the enemy, the assault; which is done out of sight of the enemy with the ground being used to best advantage..

Learning the weapons systems, navigation (not sat nav) using a map and compass.. Advanced first aid.. Advanced tactics.. language skills.. Survival in any conditions... Local customs and laws.. The list is endless.

My government always goes on about "the military covenant"

Which supposed to look after housing et al after service.. We get none of that.. And am just left for dead by our own country.. Same for the wounded.. Infact foreigners take priority..

Nobody fights for us... Why should we fight for you??

That is the consensus amongst the troops..

Basically..

##SNIP##

We will look after you when you look after us...


It has been a long time coming...

And I for one agree..


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i support the soldiers. i actually envy them but i do not support the war they fight. put their lives in danger for greed while ur own country is falling apart. i think the soldiers need to band together and fix america before it tries to fix other countries



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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