How about its a giant tower, how about that???
its not like it hasn't been discussed before by an honest man who worked for the air force that happened to have seen them on nasa film

I do not think a Celestion 130 is capable of imaging the horizon of the moon at such detail. HOAX!

Originally posted by groingrinder
I do not think a Celestion 130 is capable of imaging the horizon of the moon at such detail. HOAX!

You're right it can't.

As I said I have a more powerful scope and I certainly can't see that detail.
Also with such magnification, any slight
Jerky movement would be amplified massively. You just
couldn't film it.

Originally posted by groingrinder
I do not think a Celestion 130 is capable of imaging the horizon of the moon at such detail. HOAX!

Don't be so quick declaring something as Hoax just because you 'think' it can't be done
He had a camcorder with zoom behind that, too you know..

You're right it can't.

As I said I have a more powerful scope and I certainly can't see that detail.
Also with such magnification, any slight
Jerky movement would be amplified massively. You just
couldn't film it.

Well maybe he knows a thing or two more than you do. He gave perfect explanation as to what he did to be able to get this recorded

"Filmed January 5, 2012 @ 7 pm ....Tall water tower looking structure on the horizon of the moon. 4 clips in one. I filmed this using a celestron 130 telescope and a panasonic camcorder."

More specfic..."panasonic 78x zoom camcorder. i was optical zoomed at about 30. I used an 18mm eyepiece with a 2x barlow lense on the telescope"

Originally posted by groingrinder
I do not think a Celestion 130 is capable of imaging the horizon of the moon at such detail. HOAX!

I agree. A celestron 130 is a $500 telescope. There is no way it could get as close as this shows. Nobody shoul;d be drinking this Kool Aid.

Originally posted by schuyler

Originally posted by groingrinder
I do not think a Celestion 130 is capable of imaging the horizon of the moon at such detail. HOAX!

I agree. A celestron 130 is a $500 telescope. There is no way it could get as close as this shows. Nobody shoul;d be drinking this Kool Aid.

Except that he claims he was using optical zoom from the camcorder as well. The image quality was not great. I'm not familiar with what result he would get from his set up, but also not ready to dismiss it based on other telescope images with different set ups.

For reference, here is a Celestron C8 with 7x optical zoom on the imaging device.

-Youtube link redacted- On account of me not paying attention to detail

Originally posted by boncho

Except that he claims he was using optical zoom from the camcorder as well. The image quality was not great. I'm not familiar with what result he would get from his set up, but also not ready to dismiss it based on other telescope images with different set ups.

For reference, here is a Celestron C8 with 7x optical zoom on the imaging device.

Forgive me, but I don't understand your reasoning. You say you are "not ready to dismiss it based on other telescope images with different set ups" then turn right around and reference a C8 with 7x optical zoom, which is a completely different telescope. Incidentally, a C8 is a far better (and much more expensive) telescope than the $500 toy used by this person.

Secondly, the video looks as if the pictures are taken from the moon's surface or at least close. they are at an angle. If he were using a telescope from Earth, the view would be from the top down.

EDIT: I'm sorry. I see you replied to that issue. I must have been composing my post as you answered.

Secondly, the video looks as if the pictures are taken from the moon's surface or at least close. they are at an angle. If he were using a telescope from Earth, the view would be from the top down.

Maybe because he's filming the top horizon and not the front face??

It's a sphere and not flat

I have a 12" Dobsonian (FL=1500mm, f/4.93) and can most certainly get shots like the video in the original post - even with an unzoomed cell phone camera! (using a 2" 16mm 100 degree wide field barlowed at 2X). Even closer if I use my 8mm barlowed 2X)

I have never tried looking through a telescope like the original poster, so I cannot comment on that. But a 12" reflector can get the equivalent - no problem.

Since the poster of that video gave us the details such as date and time, I will be able to match the next phase and see if I can find it myself. Most likely it is a play of shadows. I look at the moon mid phase all the time and you get some wonderful sights looking at the border between light and dark. I have even caught some rare "flashes" on the surface of the moon, twice.