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They keep pushing the idea of this man at us . . .
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by colbe
All sin will be judged with the punishment of eternal torment in hell. Though there will be some suffering higher degrees of torment in hell than others. Hope that helps.
You receive God's help, His grace in the Sacrament of penance (Confession). The basic meaning of a Sacrament, there are 7 Sacraments. A Sacrament is an outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace.
Grace is God's presence.
See the help?
The priest stands in the
place of Christ. You are confessing your sins to Christ.
I can think
of two reasons Jesus established Confession this way, instead of directly
by prayer to Him. We must confess our serious sins -mortal-, not venial (though you can) in Confession. It helps a person with humility and a person is reassured, their sins are forgiven in hearing the priest's words of absolution. And the priest gives you a penance, usually prayers to say
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by jmdewey60
Great stuff... So when are you going to start loving JESUS ???
Originally posted by jmdewey60
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by jmdewey60
Great stuff... So when are you going to start loving JESUS ???
When are you going to accept Jesus as king and Lord?
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by colbe
You receive God's help, His grace in the Sacrament of penance (Confession). The basic meaning of a Sacrament, there are 7 Sacraments. A Sacrament is an outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace.
Use of scripture would be good at this point...
Grace is God's presence.
I disagree...
See the help?
No...
The priest stands in the
place of Christ. You are confessing your sins to Christ.
Do you not say "forgive me father for i have sinned"?
yet..
9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
I can think
of two reasons Jesus established Confession this way, instead of directly
by prayer to Him. We must confess our serious sins -mortal-, not venial (though you can) in Confession. It helps a person with humility and a person is reassured, their sins are forgiven in hearing the priest's words of absolution. And the priest gives you a penance, usually prayers to say
again... scripture helps
the "construction" is: V-FPI-3S, Tense: Future, Voice: Passive, Mood: Indicative, Person: third, Number: Singular.
1 Cor. 3:15 – “if any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” The phrase for "suffer loss" in the Greek is "zemiothesetai." The root word is "zemioo" which also refers to punishment. The construction “zemiothesetai” is used in Ex. 21:22 and Prov. 19:19 which refers to punishment (from the Hebrew “anash” meaning “punish” or “penalty”). Hence, this verse proves that there is an expiation of temporal punishment after our death, but the person is still saved. This cannot mean heaven (there is no punishment in heaven) and this cannot mean hell (the possibility of expiation no longer exists and the person is not saved).
I stated the Chapter and number of the verse on Confession but I can post it. Scripture shows the
spiritual power of the priesthood in other verses too. Such a disconnect...
Protestants accepting an Old Covenant priesthood while denying a greater
ministerial priesthood in the New Covenant.
The Apostles were the first priests, Paul too. Why he is so despised
Some Christians don't like what he professes. Here is the verse on
Confession. You have to "hear" someone's sins first to forgive them, yes?
I appreciate you asking. I hope for your "yes" when the Great Warning
happens
Originally posted by colbe
When Jesus said call no man father. He was using hyperbole.
Jesus and the Apostles referred to holy men chosen by God in Scripture as
"Father".
Originally posted by colbe
John 20:23
He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. [22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by colbe
Catholicism teaches that a person must keep the “Seven Sacraments” to obtain Heaven. This of course is a lie of the Devil! You do NOT need to be baptized to go to Heaven! You do NOT need to confess your sins to a priest in order to be forgiven. No priest can forgive anyone’s sins!!! You do NOT need to go to confirmation to be saved, no sir! These are lies of the Devil. Only one person can forgive sins and that's Jesus, no man can forgive sins, no priest can, your Confession is heresy. Catholics use it as a free ticket to go and sin some more, that is not true repentance of someone that is born again in the spirit. And last but not least, each time you pray to Mary you are committing the sin of idolatry, because prayer is a form of worship.