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When the EU borders were open we had an influx of Eastern European workers. Most of them did work but some were only interested in the benefits system.
Originally posted by cj6
Its simple: STOP HAVING KIDS!!!! If your irresponsible enough to have that many kids knowing you cant afford to take care of them then it is YOUR fault and nobody elses. I say let her take care of them on her own and if she cant...tough! People need to stop having kids thats the bottom line!
Originally posted by groingrinder
When she goes to collect her benefits, they should hand her a box of condoms.
Originally posted by The Old American
I feel for her kids. What does this teach them? It teaches them that you don't have to work for anything. The government will take care of you, and you won't be any better or any worse than anyone else. Basically, they'll never have a chance to stand out.
She has become a liability to the human race.
/TOA
The cycle of poverty has been defined as a phenomenon where poor families become trapped in poverty for at least three generations.
Dr. Ruby K. Payne distinguishes between situational poverty, which can generally be traced to a specific incident within the lifetimes of the person or family members in poverty, and generational poverty, which is a cycle that passes from generation to generation, and goes on to argue that generational poverty has its own distinct culture and belief patterns.
Children are most at the mercy of the cycle of poverty. Because a child is dependent on his or her guardian(s), if a child's guardian is in poverty, then they will be also. It is almost impossible for a child to pull him or herself out of the cycle due to age, lack of experience, lack of a job, etc. Because children are at such a young and impressionable age, the scars they gain from experiencing poverty early in life inevitably carry on into their adult life. "Childhood lays the foundations for adult abilities, interests, and motivation." Therefore, if they learn certain poverty-related behaviors in childhood, the behaviors are more likely to perpetuate.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
These people are serial welfare takers. There should be a limit to how many children you can collect welfare for, otherwise people will continue to abuse the system and have more children to collect more welfare.
And amazingly, no amount of public school sex-ed for third graders has stopped this.edit on 2-12-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
The politicians keep the people down, but the people haven't figured it out yet, we have a poor educational system and generation on welfare, shortages of jobs, so they leaned to work the system.
Ever since the War on Poverty in the 1960′s, our government has poured increasingly massive amounts of money into the welfare system. As spending increased, so did the level of those living in poverty. Hand in hand with this, the rate of marriage for those on government assistance plummeted as the numbers of children born to single mothers climbed higher and higher. In short, simple terms, the more we spent, the worse it got!
Originally posted by ThePublicEnemyNo1
reply to post by guohua
...This is so ridiculous...I'm sorry, I just have to laugh Guohua...you know how passionate I am about people like this "making demands" that others take care of them. I also agree with the poster above me, however, being "pre-doomed" so to speak, is no excuse.
Besides, if I don't laugh at this and say what's really on my mind, I can guarantee you I'll be "banned" for life from ATS.
Awesome post my friend!
edit on 12/2/11 by ThePublicEnemyNo1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by spy66
The welfare system should instead of giving her money for nothing, help her out with options to make her able to support and contribute to her own family.
The welfare system should help her with day care and education/job, instead of giving her money for nothing. The system should provide her with a home and pay the rent through the system directly instead of giving her the money. The system should provide her with food and clothing, but only through the welfare system like a coupon that can only be used for what is printed on the coupon.
The system should only give her family pocket money. If she wants more she must help out by personal contribution, by getting a education or a job.
edit on 27.06.08 by spy66 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by guohua
reply to post by Stormdancer777
It's Great to hear from you Stormdancer777, Your statement I have in quotes is Absolutely Correct!
The politicians keep the people down, but the people haven't figured it out yet, we have a poor educational system and generation on welfare, shortages of jobs, so they leaned to work the system.
Just to add to your statement above for the Young People Here That Don't Know A Little Of The History of Increased Welfare
Ever since the War on Poverty in the 1960′s, our government has poured increasingly massive amounts of money into the welfare system. As spending increased, so did the level of those living in poverty. Hand in hand with this, the rate of marriage for those on government assistance plummeted as the numbers of children born to single mothers climbed higher and higher. In short, simple terms, the more we spent, the worse it got!
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Obama was schooled in the Chicago patronage system which equates dependency with votes. For a politician like Obama, a vigorous private sector expansion just means fewer votes. Maybe that's why he has done so much to prevent it from happening.
Democrats have a vested interest in expanding the numbers of Americans who have simply given up looking for work. Why should Obama wish to create more jobs when it is welfare recipients who are his greatest fans?
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Destinyone
I took over providing for all my children quite nicely thank you. Again, how many kids did you have? One? LOL
No I'm not willing to play "daddy" to 15 kids but if she were Australia I'd be willing to help her with clothing, food and basic neccessities to keep that family together. Is he were in my neck of the woods, sure, I'd take some of her kids out to play footy be that soccer or rugby! Why not!
Like many others on this thread, you make out you pay more taxes than anyone else. Where I lived for a very long time we paid 60% of our taxes to our Govt and a family of 10-15 was normal and all our boys and girls do military service giving their lives for our people and our nation. How many of you or your kids can say that much? Thats what will happen to probably at least 2 of this woman's sons.....and you should all be ashamed of yourselves when her sons go in to battle for YOU and your precious lifestyle.
Your country is already sucking the life out of our country and others because of YOUR debt and living way beyond your means for afew miserable material possessions. And whose paying for it? The rest of the world. Sorry you have to help pay for 12 American kids when you were hoping to purchase that latest Smart/Plasma TV or iPhone, car or whatever else you really don't need.....on CREDIT using other people's money.