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Originally posted by TechUnique
Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
reply to post by TechUnique
They arent chemtrails....they arent even contrails...they are whats commonly known as...clouds
If you saw how they layered out over the day you wouldn't be so quick to call them cloud. They started off as stringy lines in the sky and then spread like a canopy over everything.
Contrails are essentially cumulus clouds.
Originally posted by Jools
If they wanted to kill a whole load of people they could do it biologically. Maybe we've just got more air traffic these days I dunno... Where I live most of the summer has had clear blue skies...and now the fall is coming in my friend is saying there's chemtrails... a lot of this is common sense...It's cloudy because...it's the fall...
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by dezertdog
Through the 60's 70's 80's to around the mid 90's.....
Yes, but what is different over those decades? The airplanes. Specifically, the engines...and the changing engine technology, and design. All designed to A) Increase thrust for each unit mass of fuel used; B) Reduce noise to comply with ever-stricter EPA (and International equivalent) rules; and, C) To increase fuel efficiency, especially in view of the sharply rising costs that began roughly in the early 1980s.
There was a gradual influx of these newer designs, as they were added to airline fleets. But, older airplanes were still used, until it was time to retire them, or their operational costs were exceeding the cost of replacement.
The high-bypass turbo fan engine is responsible for the prevalence of more persistent contrails, year over year. Combined with the fact that today --- they now account for the vast majority of jets flying.
Your little 50-seat commuter jets, although very commonly used today (replacing the turbo-props, which are gradually being phased out) make fewer contrails....partly due to engine design, partly because of their often very short stage lengths (distances between cities) they don't always cruise as high, etc.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by TechUnique
I think you misread my post. I am in total aggreement with you. My comment was directed to the usual suspects who frequent the threads on this topic.edit on 6-10-2011 by Corruption Exposed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by TechUnique
No worries. I appreciate you taking the time to clarify
Yesterday, after I posted on your thread, I ran some errands on the way home. The grid like patterns were everywhere (as usual). I'm in Ontario, Canada. I have tried to use the software to track these flights but there are never any listings for the planes that I see. Due to the military bases nearby there are restrictions on most air traffic. There sure are a lot of planes for a restricted are. I took a few pics but they did not turn out well. I'm on my iPhone so I'm not sure if I can upload them. I'm going to try right now.