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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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Probably because their sun differs, I don't know.
So it is to do with the sun yet an answer ago you claimed


Black people weren't made black from the sun.
So is their sun not our sun? what are you saying?


It's explained on the ehow.com
Nope. You claimed


Scientists have theorized that the type of athmosphere we have is the only type they are aware of that could substain life.
I asked for a link where it states that. You did not supply one. Do that or is this just another attempt to deceive to prop up your failing argument?


Well I'm only agreeing with you if you think that frostbite and heat stroke are normal things we are supposed to be subjected to.
So again you are refusing to answer my reply to your statement.


As far as we understand, ours is idea for us, but the fact is there could be a slightly different athmosphere that is even better for us
If our atmosphere is ideal then there can be none better. It is ideal. At best it can be the same. Consider then explain.


I'm talking about other planets that are out there.
Nope; You were talking about the Earth atmosphere


Working around the problem ........................redundant adaption .............. end
Whoops you said the R word. Road closed.


If you think a wooden spoon is the same as a stick, maybe you should go into business.
There are already companies that produce wooden spoons. Now explain why a spoon shaped out of wood is different than the chimps spoon shaped out of a stick that is wood.


It has everything to do with the question, your being an idiot trying to compare a stick to a wooden spoon, then have the nerve to try to make it sound like your right. Grow up.
Your the Fooltopian.
how is below anything to do with my point?


It's still an ill point. An ape doesn't not sit at a dinning room table, with silverware, a napkin, and chairs
A wooden spoon is shaped out of wood. A stick which is wood is shaped by the chimp and used as a spoon. So maybe you could stop acting like a spoilt child and answer that.




posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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I can see you like to make a lot of assumptions, and jump to conclusions. It's very common place for you, but in the reality of things, it has no place.
I don’t think you want to go there. You have assumed a newly found planet 600 light years away has a constant temperature of 72F in spite of the information that says that is one theory. You went on to claim a constant 72F as fact. That is not jumping to a conclusion that is a massive Olympian leap

You claim Fooltopia has a constant temperature of 72F. Has perfect food. Perfect liquids. Perfect weather. A planet where we have no need to work and all animals live in peace with no predators or there are no other animals you cant be sure. In fact you say you cannot know as you have never been there.

You cannot explain our bodies temperature control, immune system, why white people are white and black people are black. Yet based on all the things you have no proof for you can conclude we are not from here.

The only one making assumptions and jumping to conclusions is you.


I don't remember ever saying we have no sickness on our home planet so your going to have to direct me to what page that was.
No problem. I direct you towards all the previous pages. If that is too much like work for you then you will have to take my word for it.



Your kidding me, its like so obvious. All we do is adapt, often time we adapt, to adapt to adapt, AKA redundant adaptation.
Another failure. Answer my question: 'Now tell me why the aliens could not have moved us here because this planet was more fitting than the hostile one we came from given the dangerous animals, illness, food that offers no protection from illness and a climate that was at least as hostile as Earths. As I asked you to do but you have avoided twice.'


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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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Not that its conclusive, but that in itself could be a reason. It is possible that is a sign of desperation due to food going extinct.

What the hell are you bleating on about? If the dog is not from here the neither is the wolf. The wolf is not a scavenger, it is a major predator. Explain as you have already been asked.
Thats not what I'm reading, I'm reading that he also eats other things. And not to confuse you but hunting other animals is why I was calling him a scavanger. It's a sign of desperation to kill another animal. He might be working off an extinction list or possibly not be from here.




Dogs, wolves, lions, tigers, cats.

I'm stil on the fence about scavengers being an obvious one thats missing target food.

At last. Now explain why Dogs, wolves, lions, tigers, cats are not from here. What are the tell tale signs?
They don't have any main food. No target food.




Re: scavengers. Your childish outlook on life is showing. Have you any picture of how daft you look? Most if not all animals will take advantage of a free meal whether that be a fruit becoming ripe or a corpse. The specialists that include dung beetles play a vital role in the ecosystems of this world. You always give the impression that they are some sort of low life when in fact they are of much more value to this world than you
Eco systems are supposed to be balanced just so you know.




That depends on what your talking about, the end result, or the situation.

Fair enough you lost that one as well. Another point you cannot and will not answer.
Not if your talking about the situation.
But there you go with your assumptions.




But before that, there had to be a disadvantage of going through the steps of creating those weapons.

Nope you claim invention never gives advantage my examples clearly show you are wrong. If you have to do a little extra work to begin with that is what we (humans not Fooltopians) call investment in the future.
I never said that. But let me clairify just in case you don't understand. Invention is never derived from advantage, hows that.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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No I think its the easier answer, the planet just has a more stable control.

Don’t tell me what you think. Give me a logical reason how you came to your conclusion. Your usual one line dismissal is not acceptable.
That is the logical reason why, I believe in occam's razor.




Strangely it seems even here I offer more information than you yet this is YOUR insane fantasy. Our internal temperature control shows that Fooltopia does not have a constant temperature or we evolved it since being dumped on earth.

1. How have you come to the conclusion that the temprature is a constant 72F? I meant average sorry.
2, What protects Fooltopians from the dangers around them when they sleep? Thats a loaded question but it is possible we don't need protection like we do here on earth.
3. Is this Fooltopian wind a constant as well? Who knows, There may not be wind either.





The fact is the less we need to do to survive, the easier life is, and thats a fact.

Another fact that is in reality complete nonsense. We reduce the things we need to do by our inventions. Our inventions make life more comfortable and are an advantage not necessarily easier. You are just a lazy Fooltopian
No we have to make inventions to work around our needs.




Well its a different planet.

That is not an answer, try again. You have not explained yet how Fooltopia that you say is very similar to earth does not offer the same problems.
I don't know, it would seem more to be a problem that you have made another assumption that I'm indicating this planet to be our home planet. All I have said is that it has an average temperature of 72F.




but you have a heater and use it don't you.

And what has that got to do with anything?
Why would you need a heater if your planet earth was so fitting for you.




No there is to many things here that dont fit with us.

Why aren’t the things that don’t fit with us the ones that are not from here? You say there are many.
Well those are clues that they probably are.




There could be smaller examples of sickness there, but not like it is here. The temperature control is just to adjust us in moderate changes, not freezing or heat stroke.

Nope. Not good enough. If there is sickness on Fooltopia then it is not the world you claimed it was. Our immune system copes very well with the illnesses on earth. If we had it on Fooltopia then it must have been coping with similar there despite having perfect food. As you claim we cannot evolve a better immune system you need to explain. Your one line dismissive answer above is not suffice.
Your wrong again, if our immune system was such a good fit here, then why do we have vaccinations, and so much medical intervention?




Our temperature control works very well here and perfectly in the moderate temperate zones we evolved from. You say we came from Fooltopia then the weather is at least that of those temperate zones.
Sure as long as your properly clothed and run the heat or the AC and stay away from the extreme elements, sure.




No, anything and everything brought here would upset the balance.

Why? You have not factored in extinctions. Maybe the Aliens brought all these creatures from other planets to bring Earth into your fabled balance. Consider then explain.
I don't believe that aliens are the creator of planets.




Because our requirements for life only match in a few select places on this planet. It's obviously not our home.

A few selected places Do you ever open your front door? Go take a look and see how ridiculous your statement is
There is only a few select places around the equator that have the idea conditions.

Of course the animals in the area don't make it safe conditions however.




I never said we should ship off and move there. Of course they don't know if there is a surface, they can't see it.

So how do you know it is a constant 72F when the scientists that discovered it do not?
No its suppose to be an average 72F




I guess I'm missing your point, they are unsure of the temperature, so what.

You claimed as a fact that the temperature was a constant 72F. You tried to deceive to add weight to your argument by ignoring the real information which is still highly speculative. That is called lying here on Earth
It's supposed to be an average.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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Probably because their sun differs, I don't know.

So it is to do with the sun yet an answer ago you claimed


Black people weren't made black from the sun.

So is their sun not our sun? what are you saying?
It's entirely possible that black people are from another planet, I don't know.




Scientists have theorized that the type of athmosphere we have is the only type they are aware of that could substain life.

I asked for a link where it states that. You did not supply one. Do that or is this just another attempt to deceive to prop up your failing argument?
Neither, its the problem that your assuming there couldn't possibly be another planet with a simular atmosphere to earth.




Well I'm only agreeing with you if you think that frostbite and heat stroke are normal things we are supposed to be subjected to.

So again you are refusing to answer my reply to your statement.
No I'm trying to emphasis a fact that you seem to avoiding.




As far as we understand, ours is idea for us, but the fact is there could be a slightly different athmosphere that is even better for us

If our atmosphere is ideal then there can be none better. It is ideal. At best it can be the same. Consider then explain
I meant it in a generalazation, not being specific to the planet.




If you think a wooden spoon is the same as a stick, maybe you should go into business.

There are already companies that produce wooden spoons. Now explain why a spoon shaped out of wood is different than the chimps spoon shaped out of a stick that is wood.
Well then why don't you package some and sell them and see the difference.




It has everything to do with the question, your being an idiot trying to compare a stick to a wooden spoon, then have the nerve to try to make it sound like your right. Grow up.

Your the Fooltopian. how is below anything to do with my point?
Just remember we sell wooden spoons, not wooden sticks, semantics will not win this argument for you.




It's still an ill point. An ape doesn't not sit at a dinning room table, with silverware, a napkin, and chairs

A wooden spoon is shaped out of wood. A stick which is wood is shaped by the chimp and used as a spoon. So maybe you could stop acting like a spoilt child and answer that
How do you know he uses it as a spoon, how do you not know he uses it as a fork, or a knife?



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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I don’t think you want to go there. You have assumed a newly found planet 600 light years away has a constant temperature of 72F in spite of the information that says that is one theory. You went on to claim a constant 72F as fact. That is not jumping to a conclusion that is a massive Olympian leap

You claim Fooltopia has a constant temperature of 72F. Has perfect food. Perfect liquids. Perfect weather. A planet where we have no need to work and all animals live in peace with no predators or there are no other animals you cant be sure. In fact you say you cannot know as you have never been there.

You cannot explain our bodies temperature control, immune system, why white people are white and black people are black. Yet based on all the things you have no proof for you can conclude we are not from here.

The only one making assumptions and jumping to conclusions is you.
That depends, as your making up your own words, then have the audacity to dismiss mine as though they coudln't possibly exist. I will no longer accept your word fooltopia just as you don't accept target food and redundant.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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No problem. I direct you towards all the previous pages. If that is too much like work for you then you will have to take my word for it.


Your kidding me, its like so obvious. All we do is adapt, often time we adapt, to adapt to adapt, AKA redundant adaptation.

Another failure. Answer my question: 'Now tell me why the aliens could not have moved us here because this planet was more fitting than the hostile one we came from given the dangerous animals, illness, food that offers no protection from illness and a climate that was at least as hostile as Earths. As I asked you to do but you have avoided twice.'
I never indicated that I believed that aliens didn't put us here, so I fail to understand your question.

If your trying to make a reference that its possible we were moved from a worse planet, then the question would be how could we survive there.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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I don’t think you want to go there. You have assumed a newly found planet 600 light years away has a constant temperature of 72F in spite of the information that says that is one theory. You went on to claim a constant 72F as fact. That is not jumping to a conclusion that is a massive Olympian leap

You claim Fooltopia has a constant temperature of 72F. Has perfect food. Perfect liquids. Perfect weather. A planet where we have no need to work and all animals live in peace with no predators or there are no other animals you cant be sure. In fact you say you cannot know as you have never been there.

You cannot explain our bodies temperature control, immune system, why white people are white and black people are black. Yet based on all the things you have no proof for you can conclude we are not from here.

The only one making assumptions and jumping to conclusions is you.
That depends, as your making up your own words, then have the audacity to dismiss mine as though they coudln't possibly exist. I will no longer accept your word fooltopia just as you don't accept target food and redundant.



It's called sarcasm... Because that entire target food nonsense is based on a word you made up.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Thats not what I'm reading, I'm reading that he also eats other things. And not to confuse you but hunting other animals is why I was calling him a scavanger.
This illustrates you read only what you want to see. The Wolf is a major predator and you have been spoon fed enough information to know this so your ignorance is wilful to purposely dishonestly protect your failed argument.

Your knowledge of English is also shown by this one sentence to be lacking any education at all. You cannot just decide to call a wolf a scavenger because you want it to be so just like you cannot make up terms without defining them.


It's a sign of desperation to kill another animal.
No your comment is a sign of a complete disconnect with the world you live in. What purpose do you think the teeth of a lion serve? Tickling sticks?


He might be working off an extinction list or possibly not be from here
Again what the hell are you babbling on about? What does working off an extinction list mean? You already said you believe a wolf is not from here so is he now from here again or on the fence?



They don't have any main food. No target food.
Then almost no animal on this planet is from here with very few exceptions. (No such thing as target food)


Eco systems are supposed to be balanced just so you know.
What or who decided what is supposed to be?



I never said that. But let me clairify just in case you don't understand. Invention is never derived from advantage, hows that.
I think you need to go somewhere quiet to think because most of what you have written above is gibberish and this last sentence is just more of the same. You claimed inventions never give an advantage if you have to work to produce the invention. What you are now saying above is anyone’s guess.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Thats not what I'm reading, I'm reading that he also eats other things. And not to confuse you but hunting other animals is why I was calling him a scavanger.

This illustrates you read only what you want to see. The Wolf is a major predator and you have been spoon fed enough information to know this so your ignorance is wilful to purposely dishonestly protect your failed argument.
You mean your making an assumption he is suppose to be a preditor. You have as much proof as I have.




Your knowledge of English is also shown by this one sentence to be lacking any education at all. You cannot just decide to call a wolf a scavenger because you want it to be so just like you cannot make up terms without defining them.
Scavengers eat what they can, not necessarily what they are supposed to eat, so that is how I meant it.




It's a sign of desperation to kill another animal.

No your comment is a sign of a complete disconnect with the world you live in. What purpose do you think the teeth of a lion serve? Tickling sticks?
No the problem stems from YOUR observation being limited to what we see here, and not allowing the possibility that he may not have his intended food.




He might be working off an extinction list or possibly not be from here

Again what the hell are you babbling on about? What does working off an extinction list mean? You already said you believe a wolf is not from here so is he now from here again or on the fence?
You limitations of the understanding of life, have a limited view and only accepts possibilities of what goes on here on earth.




They don't have any main food. No target food.

Then almost no animal on this planet is from here with very few exceptions. (No such thing as target food)
That is possible, but again you have to first rule out extinctions.




Eco systems are supposed to be balanced just so you know.

What or who decided what is supposed to be?
That would be the 10 million dollar question.




I never said that. But let me clairify just in case you don't understand. Invention is never derived from advantage, hows that.

I think you need to go somewhere quiet to think because most of what you have written above is gibberish and this last sentence is just more of the same. You claimed inventions never give an advantage if you have to work to produce the invention. What you are now saying above is anyone’s guess.
No your reading skills are once again lacking. We would have no reason to make an invention if we were allready in an advantage, so inventions don't come from an advantage. They might offer one after the fact.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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That is the logical reason why, I believe in occam's razor.
you never cease to amuse. Your whole ridiculous home grown religion shows your are the anti Christ of occam's razor. You have had to make up so many things that even you the founder shows confusion. So I take it you refuse to address my point again. You have lost it then, again.


You quote me with out giving a response so I take it you have surrendered on those points too. You lost here then.


No we have to make inventions to work around our needs.
More of your denial. Again not addressing my point. Again providing nothing more than an unsupported dismissal. You are not doing well. You lost again.


I don't know, it would seem more to be a problem that you have made another assumption that I'm indicating this planet to be our home planet. All I have said is that it has an average temperature of 72F.
So I take it you have based Fooltopia's temperature to be 72F by assuming what would be the ideal temperature for humans. So in reality you based it on nothing. You lost this too.


Why would you need a heater if your planet earth was so fitting for you.
Its called being alive. Life is full of challenges and unlike you who appears to have given in most of us rise to the challenge. That goes for all other life it is why it’s called survival.


Well those are clues that they probably are.
That is not an answer to my question. Try again with an explanation.

Why aren’t the things that don’t fit with us the ones that are not from here? You say there are many.


Your wrong again, if our immune system was such a good fit here, then why do we have vaccinations, and so much medical intervention?
Ah your dismissive one liner. You have been told, had this explained many times and every time supported by evidence, links and quotes from those links. You lost the point every time you have raised it. You want an answer. Go back and read all that information given to you in good faith that you dishonestly dismissed without consideration.


Sure as long as your properly clothed and run the heat or the AC and stay away from the extreme elements, sure.
Do you base everything on your own limited life? Here learn something Egocentric

1. Holding the view that the ego is the center, object, and norm of all experience.
2.
a. Confined in attitude or interest to one's own needs or affairs.
b. Caring only about oneself; selfish.
3. Philosophy
a. Viewed or perceived from one's own mind as a centre.
b. Taking one's own self as the starting point in a philosophical system..



I don't believe that aliens are the creator of planets.
I did not ask that. Answer this.


No, anything and everything brought here would upset the balance.

Why? You have not factored in extinctions. Maybe the Aliens brought all these creatures from other planets to bring Earth into your fabled balance. Consider then explain..





There is only a few select places around the equator that have the idea conditions.
Utter garbage. Get an education.


No its suppose to be an average 72F
So you have now denied the information I have spoon fed you three times to maintain what is a laughable lie. So it was not a mistake on your part, it was wilfully deceitful dishonesty. I expect you feel proud.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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It's entirely possible that black people are from another planet, I don't know.
I thought as much.
So here we see how deep your ignorance goes. Black and white people are made different or come from different planets. Jeeze you are pure ignorance.


Neither, its the problem that your assuming there couldn't possibly be another planet with a simular atmosphere to earth.
So again you refuse to provide the link and quote where it says


Scientists have theorized that the type of athmosphere we have is the only type they are aware of that could substain life.
You showcase how base your character is. So your claim of what scientists have theorized is just another in the long line of lies you tell.



No I'm trying to emphasis a fact that you seem to avoiding.
Another non answer then.



I meant it in a generalazation, not being specific to the planet.
How can you saying


As far as we understand, ours is idea for us, but the fact is there could be a slightly different athmosphere that is even better for us
be a generalisation not specific to the planet? Another non answer then. You are just tragic.



Well then why don't you package some and sell them and see the difference.
How many attempts have you had to address this point and avoided it. Try one honest attempt to enter into a discussion. Just once.

Explain why a spoon shaped out of wood is different than the chimp’s spoon shaped out of a stick that is wood.


Just remember we sell wooden spoons, not wooden sticks, semantics will not win this argument for you.
Is that right?
so why don’t you answer my point instead of all the avoidance like


It's still an ill point. An ape doesn't not sit at a dinning room table, with silverware, a napkin, and chairs
Again: A wooden spoon is shaped out of wood. A stick which is wood is shaped by the chimp and used as a spoon. So maybe you could stop acting like a spoilt child and answer that.


How do you know he uses it as a spoon, how do you not know he uses it as a fork, or a knife?
Because the chimp uses it to scoop up the ants not impale them.


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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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That depends, as your making up your own words, then have the audacity to dismiss mine as though they coudln't possibly exist. I will no longer accept your word fooltopia just as you don't accept target food and redundant.
Again you show ignorance. I have made it clear from the start that Fooltopia is what I call the perfect planet you continually refer too. That means I have defined it. I have again. I will do it formally.

Fooltopia: The name given to the planet tooth refers to as the perfect planet and our home planet which is not Earth.

Now you have never defined any of your made up terms despite being asked to many times and so your terms are not acceptable. It's that simple.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:26 PM
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No problem. I direct you towards all the previous pages. If that is too much like work for you then you will have to take my word for it.


Your kidding me, its like so obvious. All we do is adapt, often time we adapt, to adapt to adapt, AKA redundant adaptation.

Another failure. Answer my question: 'Now tell me why the aliens could not have moved us here because this planet was more fitting than the hostile one we came from given the dangerous animals, illness, food that offers no protection from illness and a climate that was at least as hostile as Earths. As I asked you to do but you have avoided twice.'
I never indicated that I believed that aliens didn't put us here, so I fail to understand your question.

If your trying to make a reference that its possible we were moved from a worse planet, then the question would be how could we survive there.
I never wrote that you did say you did not believe aliens brought us here. Try reading what I write for a change.

The obvious answer of why the aliens moved us from a worse planet to here is because we could no longer survive there. A more valid reason than an interstellar being who needed us to mine gold or because we had upset him.

So if my reason for the move is so wrong why is yours so right? I based mine on the same evidence as you after all



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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You mean your making an assumption he is suppose to be a preditor. You have as much proof as I have.
Not only can I spell predator correctly I can show the evidence that supports my claim that the wolf is a predator The Gray Wolf and a quote from it

The gray wolf is typically an apex predator throughout its range, with only humans and tigers[9][10][11][12] posing a serious threat to it.



Scavengers eat what they can, not necessarily what they are supposed to eat, so that is how I meant it.
If a scavenger has evolved into that niche then it eats primarily dead and decaying food which it did not hunt itself. So not only are you wrong in your use of English you again failed to indentify who or what decided what it is supposed to eat?


No the problem stems from YOUR observation being limited to what we see here, and not allowing the possibility that he may not have his intended food.
Fair enough. Explain those big flesh ripping teeth. (the Lions not yours)


You limitations of the understanding of life, have a limited view and only accepts possibilities of what goes on here on earth.
Show me the evidence of anything else?


That is possible, but again you have to first rule out extinctions.
Again nope. Your claims you have to rule out extinctions. Do that, come back when you have the list.


That would be the 10 million dollar question.
Nope. You claimed


Eco systems are supposed to be balanced just so you know.
I replied 'What or who decided what is supposed to be?' If you cannot answer then you cannot make your claim of what is supposed to be.


No your reading skills are once again lacking. We would have no reason to make an invention if we were allready in an advantage, so inventions don't come from an advantage. They might offer one after the fact.
Really
So you recant you statement:


Now look, this is easy to understand ok. Anytime you have to go out of your way, to make something work, or claim to make something better by having to go out of your way, is not an advantage, its a disadvantage.
Progress at last. Well done.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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So I take it you have based Fooltopia's temperature to be 72F by assuming what would be the ideal temperature for humans. So in reality you based it on nothing. You lost this too.
I allready told you if you don't accept target food, then I don't accept fooltopia. sorry.




Why would you need a heater if your planet earth was so fitting for you.

Its called being alive. Life is full of challenges and unlike you who appears to have given in most of us rise to the challenge. That goes for all other life it is why it’s called survival.
What you mean to say is its called being alinve on a planet that doesn't fit you.




Well those are clues that they probably are.

That is not an answer to my question. Try again with an explanation.

Why aren’t the things that don’t fit with us the ones that are not from here? You say there are many.
Because there can be no other explanation.




Your wrong again, if our immune system was such a good fit here, then why do we have vaccinations, and so much medical intervention?

Ah your dismissive one liner. You have been told, had this explained many times and every time supported by evidence, links and quotes from those links. You lost the point every time you have raised it. You want an answer. Go back and read all that information given to you in good faith that you dishonestly dismissed without consideration.
So your going to be ignorant and claim that we don't need medical intervention. Possibly the largest income producing profession in the world, and your going to claim they are not needed. WOW. They must hold something over us anyhow. We pay them even when we don't have money.




Do you base everything on your own limited life? Here learn something Egocentric
1. Holding the view that the ego is the center, object, and norm of all experience.
2.
a. Confined in attitude or interest to one's own needs or affairs.
b. Caring only about oneself; selfish.
3. Philosophy
a. Viewed or perceived from one's own mind as a centre.
b. Taking one's own self as the starting point in a philosophical system..

None of which any applies to me, but you should honestly be looking at yourself. You seem to think that man is the basis for proof of evolution yet we share NOTHING with apes aside from ant eating sticks.




I don't believe that aliens are the creator of planets.

I did not ask that. Answer this.


No, anything and everything brought here would upset the balance.

Why? You have not factored in extinctions. Maybe the Aliens brought all these creatures from other planets to bring Earth into your fabled balance. Consider then explain
Bringing things here would offset the balance of the planet.




There is only a few select places around the equator that have the idea conditions.

Utter garbage. Get an education.
Its a fact MR I have and use a heater.




No its suppose to be an average 72F

So you have now denied the information I have spoon fed you three times to maintain what is a laughable lie. So it was not a mistake on your part, it was wilfully deceitful dishonesty. I expect you feel proud.
Call it what you want, it was just a fub on my part, at least I'm willing to admit when I make them unlike you.




It's entirely possible that black people are from another planet, I don't know.

I thought as much. So here we see how deep your ignorance goes. Black and white people are made different or come from different planets. Jeeze you are pure ignorance.
Do you have proof otherwise? I would love to hear it.




Neither, its the problem that your assuming there couldn't possibly be another planet with a simular atmosphere to earth.

So again you refuse to provide the link and quote where it says
I allready did, keplar 22b.




Scientists have theorized that the type of athmosphere we have is the only type they are aware of that could substain life.

You showcase how base your character is. So your claim of what scientists have theorized is just another in the long line of lies you tell.

Let me correct that, and say they indicate other planets will most likely have to have water.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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I allready told you if you don't accept target food, then I don't accept fooltopia. sorry.
Then you had better provide the definition as I did. If you refuse to accept Fooltopia that has been fully defined then I will no longer respond to anything you post sorry.



What you mean to say is its called being alinve on a planet that doesn't fit you.
Nope what I wrote is what I am saying. What the hell is alinve?


Because there can be no other explanation.
Well obviously no explanation from you that's for sure.


So your going to be ignorant and claim that we don't need medical intervention.
Tut tut. I advised you to go back and read all the information that has been given to you many times before. So now you either do that or ignore it as you have done on every previous occasion. Your response tells me your intention already. Pathetic.


None of which any applies to me, but you should honestly be looking at yourself. You seem to think that man is the basis for proof of evolution yet we share NOTHING with apes aside from ant eating sticks.
Egocentric is so you but alas another thing you refuse to learn. Hey Ho.


Bringing things here would offset the balance of the planet.
Not if the planet was already out of balance and the advanced alien was trying to restore it by adding animals to put it back into balance.


Its a fact MR I have and use a heater.
Ah a tooth fact. Meaningless piffle then


Call it what you want, it was just a fub on my part, at least I'm willing to admit when I make them unlike you.
What nonsense. I have spent at least 3 pages backing you into a corner to get you to admit something that was indefensible but it did not stop you trying. Don’t expect a pat on the back.



Do you have proof otherwise? I would love to hear it.
No you wouldn’t love to hear it, racists never do.


I allready did, keplar 22b.
And here you are defending something you just admitted was a fub. Pathetic.


Let me correct that, and say they indicate other planets will most likely have to have water.
How many pages has it taken you to suddenly realise that? Changing your story now after all that denial seems a little empty and not honestly meant.

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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No I'm trying to emphasis a fact that you seem to avoiding.

Another non answer then.
This is why you never advance in our arguments, your mind is so closed that you think when I'm stating facts, that its a non answer.




I meant it in a generalazation, not being specific to the planet.

How can you saying
Just that.




As far as we understand, ours is idea for us, but the fact is there could be a slightly different athmosphere that is even better for us

be a generalisation not specific to the planet? Another non answer then. You are just tragic.
My statements are not meant to be answers.




Well then why don't you package some and sell them and see the difference.

How many attempts have you had to address this point and avoided it. Try one honest attempt to enter into a discussion. Just once.
I am being serious, Your the one not beig serious. Package up some ape sticks and try to sell them as utensils and see how far you get.




Explain why a spoon shaped out of wood is different than the chimp’s spoon shaped out of a stick that is wood.
Well first of all a stick doens't have a custom made handle just for holding onto, like spoons do. A stick is not made to a specific size as to make sure that it fits in our mouths. A stick doesn't have a cupped feature to allow us to pick up larger quanties of food. A stick is not treated with some type of coating to extend life and wear. A stick doesn't serve any other purpose other then to allow an ant to crawl onto, and our food never crawls onto a spoon. A stick is not sanded and polished to avoid us getting splinters or damage from using it. A stick is not a specific lenght, its random and you get what you get. A stick is not curved to be ergonomic, which allows for easier access from table to mouth. A stick is not treated to keep germs out for future use. Sorry but your wrong.




It's still an ill point. An ape doesn't not sit at a dinning room table, with silverware, a napkin, and chairs

Again: A wooden spoon is shaped out of wood. A stick which is wood is shaped by the chimp and used as a spoon. So maybe you could stop acting like a spoilt child and answer that.
Apes do not use sticks as spoons, a stick can't be a spoon, it has no cupped featuer, so you are once again moving the goal posts to make them fit your delusion. An ape uses sticks to pick up ants, thats all, and at best it still requires the ant to walk onto the stick, a big difference from our spoons.




How do you know he uses it as a spoon, how do you not know he uses it as a fork, or a knife?

Because the chimp uses it to scoop up the ants not impale into them.
No the stick has no gathering featue, therfore the ant has to crawl onto the stick.




Again you show ignorance. I have made it clear from the start that Fooltopia is what I call the perfect planet you continually refer too. That means I have defined it. I have again. I will do it formally.
I reject your definition, it appear to be a made up word. Target food however might answer your question.




Fooltopia: The name given to the planet tooth refers to as the perfect planet and our home planet which is not Earth.
Again I reject your made up term and refer you back to target food.




Now you have never defined any of your made up terms despite being asked to many times and so your terms are not acceptable. It's that simple.
You never defined yours, its just that simple.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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I never wrote that you did say you did not believe aliens brought us here. Try reading what I write for a change.
Well number one, our bible would not be indicating otherwise, and second we wouldn't be having all the problems we do have here if it were a better planet. There is honestly nothing here for us, if you haven't realized that yet.




The obvious answer of why the aliens moved us from a worse planet to here is because we could no longer survive there. A more valid reason than an interstellar being who needed us to mine gold or because we had upset him.

So if my reason for the move is so wrong why is yours so right? I based mine on the same evidence as you after all
Evidence from other sources including the bible all suggest that we were an enslaved race, and were taken from our home, and told we would get to go back if we did the task asked of us. The people that remain here obviously dind't comply.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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You mean your making an assumption he is suppose to be a preditor. You have as much proof as I have.

Not only can I spell predator correctly I can show the evidence that supports my claim that the wolf is a predator The Gray Wolf and a quote from it
The gray wolf is typically an apex predator throughout its range, with only humans and tigers[9][10][11][12] posing a serious threat to it
I'm not sure what that is supposed to prove, it proves nothing. It is not proof its his food to begin with.




Scavengers eat what they can, not necessarily what they are supposed to eat, so that is how I meant it.

If a scavenger has evolved into that niche then it eats primarily dead and decaying food which it did not hunt itself. So not only are you wrong in your use of English you again failed to indentify who or what decided what it is supposed to eat?
Which is exactly why I keep saying you need to first rule out extinctions.




No the problem stems from YOUR observation being limited to what we see here, and not allowing the possibility that he may not have his intended food.

Fair enough. Explain those big flesh ripping teeth. (the Lions not yours)
Your making a childs observation based on what we know now, which tells us nothing about how things might have been or how they were supposed to be.




You limitations of the understanding of life, have a limited view and only accepts possibilities of what goes on here on earth.

Show me the evidence of anything else?
The chances of there being life elsewhere provides this possibility.




That is possible, but again you have to first rule out extinctions.

Again nope. Your claims you have to rule out extinctions. Do that, come back when you have the list.
You have to have a deep background in the knowledge of this planet, but also know about fossil life, neither of which apply to me, so I don't make those suggestions, which again is why I keep saying I'm on the fence about it.




Eco systems are supposed to be balanced just so you know.

I replied 'What or who decided what is supposed to be?' If you cannot answer then you cannot make your claim of what is supposed to be.
It's an idea that has always been in strong debate. I will say this for sure, life can't exist without some type of balance.




No your reading skills are once again lacking. We would have no reason to make an invention if we were allready in an advantage, so inventions don't come from an advantage. They might offer one after the fact.

Really So you recant you statement:
No your just understanding wrong.




Now look, this is easy to understand ok. Anytime you have to go out of your way, to make something work, or claim to make something better by having to go out of your way, is not an advantage, its a disadvantage.

Progress at last. Well done.
What starts out as a disadvantage turns into an advantage after the invention, but the fact is it started out as a disadvantage.



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