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Nature shows that 0 never existed. 0 is man's interpretation of infinity.
Positive and negative can exist infinitely. But there is only 1 zero.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by spy66
In your absolute vacuum zero can and does exist but in an absolute vacuum infinity can not exist.
The vacuum itself is a perfect balance, you can not add to it or remove from it or it will cease exist.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by spy66
In your absolute vacuum zero can and does exist but in an absolute vacuum infinity can not exist.
The vacuum itself is a perfect balance, you can not add to it or remove from it or it will cease exist.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
Nature shows that 0 never existed. 0 is man's interpretation of infinity.
Not so, zero is man's interpretation of balance. While infinity is man's interpretation of growth and expansion
By definition zero is at rest and infinity is in constant motionedit on 31-8-2011 by MathiasAndrew because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Infinity is not an amount of anything. An amount designates a finite value. There is no finite in infinity.
If you have one apple and give away one apple, from your subjective perspective, you are without apples, but objectively, that apple still exists.
Originally posted by quackers
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Infinity is not an amount of anything. An amount designates a finite value. There is no finite in infinity.
If you have one apple and give away one apple, from your subjective perspective, you are without apples, but objectively, that apple still exists.
Zero is hardly subjective. Granted the apple might still exist, but I would have an amount equivilent to zero. That isn't a matter of opinion, but a simple fact. Zero is an infinite amount of nothing. As you say, infinity is not an amount, if anything it is simply descriptive of an amount be it zero or infinity+1.
edit on 31-8-2011 by quackers because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AnonymousVan
we're talking about semantic or mathematics here ?
Originally posted by quackers
Then is not zero as valid as infinity? As someone mentioned previously this is in all actuality, semantics. Zero, rather than being a number, is simply the descriptive term representing nothing. Therefore zero is absolutely quantifiable. Infinity on the otherhand represents an imeasurable amount and is perhaps the exact opposite of zero. Or maybe I'm just missing the point here.
Originally posted by quackers
Then is not zero as valid as infinity? As someone mentioned previously this is in all actuality, semantics. Zero, rather than being a number, is simply the descriptive term representing nothing. Therefore zero is absolutely quantifiable. Infinity on the otherhand represents an imeasurable amount and is perhaps the exact opposite of zero. Or maybe I'm just missing the point here.
Originally posted by spy66
Zero is not a valid infinity. A absolute vacuum is not a zero.
A vacuum is not a zero even if you have plus and minus properties with in the vacuum.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Zero is somewhat equally as valid as infinity...snip
An absolute vacuum would however contain zero particles (perfect). I said zero would be as valid as infinity, not that it was a valid infinity.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
How do you propose to represent the numbers 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100......< and so on using infinity?
You can not say ten-infinity, twenty-infinity, thirty-infinity.....therefore zero is a valid number while infinity is invalid when applied to mathematics.
Express the number 100 using infinity instead of zero..... can you do that?
Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by quackers
An absolute vacuum would however contain zero particles (perfect). I said zero would be as valid as infinity, not that it was a valid infinity.
A absolute vacuum would not contain "zero" particles. If the vacuum can form specific particles, the properties needed to form the particles must be present within the vacuum. Particles are properties of the vacuum.