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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
telling someone to leave a topic is real empathetic there...
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
telling someone to leave a topic is real empathetic there...
Or forced empathy via Govt mandate.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
telling someone to leave a topic is real empathetic there...
Originally posted by kellynap43
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
telling someone to leave a topic is real empathetic there...
Or forced empathy via Govt mandate.
That is why the left hates that nasty amendment: "Freedom of Speech"
They would prefer if all would shut up and get in line with them.
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Originally posted by kellynap43
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
telling someone to leave a topic is real empathetic there...
Or forced empathy via Govt mandate.
That is why the left hates that nasty amendment: "Freedom of Speech"
They would prefer if all would shut up and get in line with them.
This feels like a gang-up of hate.
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by Jezus
In some ways, but taxes are not punitive. They are a fundamental part of capitalism.
The only way the "capitalism game" can continue with competition is by taxing "the rich" the most.
Originally posted by macman
Just because they do not acquire assets, does not mean they benefit any less.
Actually it does. "The rich" benefit from and depend on "the government" much much more than anyone else.
That is bastardizing the Capitalist Model.
And yes, Taxes are Punitive, as with a sliding scale, the become more punitive the more you earn.
Originally posted by neo96
if anyone has any notion whatsoever of what FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE mean then empathy is nothing but sheer evilness.
there is no freedom or independence when you become dependent upon a government paycheck it cant happen and it will never happen
Originally posted by Jezus
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by Jezus
In some ways, but taxes are not punitive. They are a fundamental part of capitalism.
The only way the "capitalism game" can continue with competition is by taxing "the rich" the most.
Originally posted by macman
Just because they do not acquire assets, does not mean they benefit any less.
Actually it does. "The rich" benefit from and depend on "the government" much much more than anyone else.
That is bastardizing the Capitalist Model.
And yes, Taxes are Punitive, as with a sliding scale, the become more punitive the more you earn.
Taxing the rich more is absolutely a fundamental part of capitalism.
In capitalism wealth creates wealth. This allows individuals to obtain unlimited power. This destroys competition and balance. They can monopolize our natural resources, destroy the environment, and enslave the masses.
We can continue to play the "capitalism game" as long as "the rich" are taxed so that the government can keep enough power to prevent these extreme situations.
Also, taxes are not in anyway punative. It doesn't matter how you get the money; it is about faciliting the society that you used to obtain the money.
Originally posted by Jezus
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by Jezus
In some ways, but taxes are not punitive. They are a fundamental part of capitalism.
The only way the "capitalism game" can continue with competition is by taxing "the rich" the most.
Originally posted by macman
Just because they do not acquire assets, does not mean they benefit any less.
Actually it does. "The rich" benefit from and depend on "the government" much much more than anyone else.
That is bastardizing the Capitalist Model.
And yes, Taxes are Punitive, as with a sliding scale, the become more punitive the more you earn.
Taxing the rich more is absolutely a fundamental part of capitalism.
In capitalism wealth creates wealth. This allows individuals to obtain unlimited power. This destroys competition and balance. They can monopolize our natural resources, destroy the environment, and enslave the masses.
We can continue to play the "capitalism game" as long as "the rich" are taxed so that the government can keep enough power to prevent these extreme situations.
Also, taxes are not in anyway punative. It doesn't matter how you get the money; it is about faciliting the society that you used to obtain the money.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
telling someone to leave a topic is real empathetic there...
Neo,
I am trying to be fair and ask simple questions of the conscience.
Do you feel empathy toward low income families on welfare or toward illegal immigrants who escape their land to come here? Have you felt empathy toward gays who were not allowed to marry or serve openly in the military? Do you feel empathy toward the unemployed struggling for work and income who rely on unemplyment insurance to get by?
If you care, why might you vote against them... Wouldn't that require you to ignore conscience and empathy?
Do you find it easier to support government assistance to the wealthy over government assistance to the poor?
edit on 4-8-2011 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Quadrivium
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
telling someone to leave a topic is real empathetic there...
Neo,
I am trying to be fair and ask simple questions of the conscience.
Do you feel empathy toward low income families on welfare or toward illegal immigrants who escape their land to come here? Have you felt empathy toward gays who were not allowed to marry or serve openly in the military? Do you feel empathy toward the unemployed struggling for work and income who rely on unemplyment insurance to get by?
If you care, why might you vote against them... Wouldn't that require you to ignore conscience and empathy?
Do you find it easier to support government assistance to the wealthy over government assistance to the poor?
edit on 4-8-2011 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)
I know you were replying to Neo but I feel inclined to butt in.
Have you even read my post in this thread?
ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS DO NOT HELP THOSE WHO GET ON THEM.
People with your mindset are actually helping turn these people into modern day slaves.
It's really very simple, if you keep providing for someone you make them dependant on you. They will look to you to fill their needs. That's what these progams are in place for. Not to "help" but to enslave.
Be honest with yourself, if the government truly wanted to help then they could have used that money constructively years ago to help these people.
Yes, we want to help people. We want to teach them to be self sufficient, not wait for someone to send them a check in return for a vote.
You really are not helping these people with your current line of thinking, your just adding to the problem.
Dry your eyes, bandage the bleeding heart and WAKE UP!
Quad
Originally posted by macman
No, it is not. It is the game of the Nanny Govt to tax the wealthy.
The is no definition within capitalism stating such.
Capitalism is the vessel, plain and simple. A vessel to allow an individual to create a widget/service, manufacture it and sell it. It is based on personal growth and wealth, not communal or the collective.
Originally posted by macman
Again, bastardization of capitalism to form what a Nanny Govt, or Parent, deems fit.
Originally posted by macman
And yes, taxes are punitive. It is applied as a sliding scale. The more you earn, the more that is taken from you.
If the taxes were flat, being all paid the same amount no matter what, then they would not be punitive.