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Originally posted by tangonine
and, OP, I don't think you'll find that republicans want "immigrants killed."
Hyperbole, in any discussion, is the tool of the defeated or the ignorant, or both.
Originally posted by tangonine
and, OP, I don't think you'll find that republicans want "immigrants killed."
Hyperbole, in any discussion, is the tool of the defeated or the ignorant, or both.
Originally posted by Sianara
Mine the border? Candidate says it's an option
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The Republican nominee for a New Mexico congressional seat suggested during a radio interview that the United States could place land mines along the Mexican border to secure the international boundary.
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[edit on 6/15/2010 by semperfortis]
Originally posted by proteus33
YOU WANT TO SECURE ARE BORDER EASY. put up a mine field post it as a mine field in spanish english arabic and chinese. spread out around field
dead animal bones that are broken up. they will get the idea.
Originally posted by babybunnies
If I wanted to secure the border, I wouldn't bother with a fence.
Just deploy landmines, and turn on different sections on different days, completely randomized, out of the hands of border security. USA seems to think it's okay to use landmines to secure borders with North/South Korea, why not for their own borders?
Heavily sign post the mined areas and heavily advertise in Mexican media that the border is now mined, and that they proceed at their own risk.
Would stop all illegal immigration in a real hurry, for relatively few $$$. Much cheaper than a fence, much cheaper than deploying the National Guard.
Feel free to provide any evidence for any of those things (preferrably not from right-wing propaganda sites which is where you most likely got them from to begin with).
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by macman
yeah and talk about bigtory this thread is a classic disconnect they have.
hate for the rich
hate for the christians
hate for everyone who doesnt agree with their veiwpoints.
perfect examples and there are many in here.
i have never yet met a liberal democrat who has walk their talk
numerous threads on this site are the proof of this
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Neo,
I am trying to be fair and ask simple questions of the conscience.
Do you feel empathy toward low income families on welfare or toward illegal immigrants who escape their land to come here? Have you felt empathy toward gays who were not allowed to marry or serve openly in the military? Do you feel empathy toward the unemployed struggling for work and income who rely on unemployment insurance to get by?
If you care, why might you vote against them... Wouldn't that require you to ignore conscience and empathy?
Do you find it easier to support government assistance to the wealthy over government assistance to the poor?
edit on 4-8-2011 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)
numerous threads on this site are the proof of this
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by technical difficulties
numerous threads on this site are the proof of this
i swear people can not read on this site and do your own leg work
Originally posted by technical difficulties
Feel free to provide any evidence for any of those things (preferrably not from right-wing propaganda sites which is where you most likely got them from to begin with).
And you're more than free to provide those threads for evidence (since you are the one who made the claim to begin with). Or you could just be more specific in your claims allowing me to attempt to disprove them. Your choice.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by technical difficulties
numerous threads on this site are the proof of this
i swear people can not read on this site and do your own leg work
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Kitilani
love that deragatory term you used there
the proof is in the thread
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by technical difficulties
www.abovetopsecret.com...
not very empathetic.
do you just gloss over posts or what?
anyone who has read any thread on here knowsedit on 4-8-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Originally posted by tangonine
and, OP, I don't think you'll find that republicans want "immigrants killed."
Hyperbole, in any discussion, is the tool of the defeated or the ignorant, or both.
The reason I've included that is because I've heard many times support for fences and guns along the border, where the idea is, if you see them trying to cross, you consider them enemy invaders and shoot. Now maybe these people were speaking from anger, or didn't really mean it...
>>>>> How am I supposed to know.
Originally posted by TheThirdAdam
May I? As a so-called "socio-republican" voter,I do feel (I believe the word you are looking for is) sympathy for the low income family who needs assistance WHILE THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET... I do sympathize with the immigrant who comes here (legally or illegally, i don't care) TO WORK so that he can take care of his family.*
I DO feel for the gay/lesbian couple whose marriage isn't recognized by the state. I wouldn't feel any less married to my wife if our gay friends were legally married. What I find is disgraceful to the institution of marriage is the countless hetero couples that get married on a whim and can't stand each other after a week. Would two men living out the rest of their lives as a loving married couple be a bad thing? HELL NO, In fact it may even give the whole concept of marriage A LITTLE BIT OF DIGNITY...
Do I feel sympathy for the unemployed drawing a check right now? Sure I do, I'm looking for work myself. I DO THINK IT IS A BIT ABSURD that the fed will now allow someone to collect for up to three years. If you are out of work for months with no prospects you should GET YOURSELF SOME DIGNITY AND GO FLIP A BURGER!!!
I do feel for these people, but I do vote against social welfare because IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO TELL OTHER TAX PAYERS THAT THEY HAVE TO HELP OTHERS through their hard times. I don't want you telling me who I am going to help, my money belongs to me and you can do whatever you like with yours. Yes I do have a conscience and it bothers me when I take something from someone that they don't want to give. It really doesn't matter how much a person has, IT DOESN'T BELONG TO ME, YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE! That my friend is what EMPATHY ACTUALLY MEANS! Thinking of how you would feel if you were in their place. Not feeling sorry.
Look man, I don't know what exactly you are trying to prove here, but all that you seem to be accomplishing is making a complete fool of yourself. I'm not trying to be an ass or hurt your feelings but the vibe that I'm getting from you is that you are either extremely naive about every aspect of humanity, or you simply trying to justify the feeling of entitlement that you obviously have towards other people's hard earned success. You‘re acting like the rest of the world owes you something just because you are unhappy.
P.S. Can you give an example of "programs for the rich?" or whatever you exact wording was... I've never heard of such things, please enlighten me.
Bush Taxt Cuts for only the wealthy that were always intended to be temporary. It was a sticking point for republicans. They would sooner let the entire country default than give them up. These millionaires and billionaires would like to cut government assistance for the poor, but they claim to still need their tax cuts. That's F'n greed and I think you might even agree with me on that.
Originally posted by tangonine
Bush Taxt Cuts for only the wealthy that were always intended to be temporary. It was a sticking point for republicans. They would sooner let the entire country default than give them up. These millionaires and billionaires would like to cut government assistance for the poor, but they claim to still need their tax cuts. That's F'n greed and I think you might even agree with me on that.
Did you just cut and paste the Democrat talking points? wow. Not only do you come across as woefully ignorant, but also easily manipulated and weak-minded. sad, sad days we're in.
Originally posted by Jezus
Originally posted by tangonine
Bush Taxt Cuts for only the wealthy that were always intended to be temporary. It was a sticking point for republicans. They would sooner let the entire country default than give them up. These millionaires and billionaires would like to cut government assistance for the poor, but they claim to still need their tax cuts. That's F'n greed and I think you might even agree with me on that.
Did you just cut and paste the Democrat talking points? wow. Not only do you come across as woefully ignorant, but also easily manipulated and weak-minded. sad, sad days we're in.
Ironic...
The only reason "the rich" are able to control our government and destroy our environment is because people are so "easily manipulated and weak-minded".
But I agree it is sad, sad days we're in when people defend such limitless greed...
Originally posted by tangonine
Explain to me how "the rich" are destroying the environment?
Originally posted by Jezus
The problem is these issues effect the entire planet.
The air, the water, and the land.
Upper Ringwood residents' environmental battle showcased in HBO documentary
www.northjersey.com...
This is one example of what is happening all over our world.
Corporations control the regulators. The people get poisoned. The richer get richer.
People suffer and others benefit from this suffering.
Originally posted by tangonine
So what's to do?
Find enough money to fight him. Not much else, but I'd entertain alternatives that don't involve shooting.