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Originally posted by DeepThoughtCriminal
I've asked them about all the problems within their nation before, and they still insist that it's better than everywhere else. They can acknowledge the issues yet still claim that it's better there than any other country. They tend to "compensate" by claiming to have practically invented the modern world through popular culture and (believe it or not) democracy. Yeah... some of them actually think they invented democracy.
No...come on now...places like north korea and such are horribly brainwashed and pariah level patriots.
I think you may be thinking "lazy". aka, americans often don't know facts and details about other countrys..I blame the school system and their endless teaching of american history verses world history. when you graduate, you will know far more about the underground railroad and hardly anything about other nations on earth.
I'm aware of places such as N. Korea and China, etc. I meant that U.S. Americans are brainwashed subtly through their media that they don't even realise it. People in N. Korea and China know what's going on - they're just silenced. U.S. Americans don't even seem to be aware of the extent their media and forced patriotism has upon their minds.
THIS. Is this actually what is being taught in schools? I know you guys have problems with funding for tertiary education, but if this is what most people's education is like... how can you say your society is not, to some extent, brainwashed?
So, you start thinking America has done and invented everything ever...before us, people generally hid in caves.
You are not actually required to read threads that you dislike the topic of.
Its not like some massive test where you have to weigh in on all topics, regardless of like or interest...pick and choose and you will find your experience far better.
I still have to see the title lines. What I meant is that I thought this site was better than the mere promotion of U.S. agenda, and it is saddening to see so many people get sucked into it.
If I see one more post by a U.S. American insulting other countries yet again, well, ATS will lose this member.
Come on man, your an Australian...you lot wrestle crocks out of boredom...your a bit stronger than that, aren'tcha?
I'm not Australian, I live here for work at the moment, but I am Argentinian. Also, whether you jest or not, that sentence really does show your ignorance of the rest of the world. I assure you, it's becoming tiresome outside the U.S.A.
Sounds like you may need some therapy. a conspiracy website in general invites a lot of opposing debate regardless of the subject.
if you find its personally effecting you...if subjects and debates are having that impact on you...then I would suggest it has little to do with the topics and probably something to do with the processing.
Sounds like clinical depression more than anything else.
you sad bro?
I am not a "bro", I am not a male. Nor am I an idiot. I am familiar with the concept of debate, etc. What bothers me here is all the posts dedicated to promoting how "great" U.S.A. is and how much "better" it is than other nations. I would like all the rabid patriots to get off their high horse and cease to speak with such irrationality.
It is not just posts in this forum that bother me - it is all and any U.S. Americans, usually in person, who insist on such disrespect.
You have done nothing but reinforce my already negative view on U.S. Americans.
You have resorted to the infantile argumentative tactic of attempting to personally insult the other person - such as accusing me of having "clinical depression".
What the hell? I'm not some idiot teenager. I'm a successful geologist in my mid-twenties and have travelled widely all over the world, including the U.S.A.
What I say is based on my myriad of personal experiences, and even though English is not my first language, it does give me some pride that I appear to use it better than you do.
Originally posted by thequietone
reply to post by SaturnFX
Just wanted to point out that our tv liscence is per household not per tv otherwise we'd all be broke!!
Also you forgot to mention healthcare, i presume that in the states its also free?? your taxes do go towards that dont they?
Originally posted by alldaylong
reply to post by SaturnFX
Only an Englishman could go to America and pretend he is an American and get away with it. I give you Hugh Laurie.
So come on my American cousins beat that
Originally posted by NotTheOne
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
Originally posted by randomname
go visit detroit. it looks like beirut 1986. i have never seen a city like that, not in england, not in south america.
well then I guess all those metal bands from birmingham bragging about what a tough childhood it was are just whimps ?
Birmingham isnt too bad, probably worse town/city 30/40 years ago is Liverpool/Manchester, a lot of poverty and some crimes.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by curious7
Who eats hotdogs on the 4th?
I grill a nice tender Rib eye steak.
Medium rare with tators and corn on the cob with Beer.
Lots and Lots of beer
Originally posted by curious7
I'm hunkering for some steak now lol
Originally posted by SaturnFX
THIS IS NOT A TROLL THREAD!
ok, I wanted to have a somewhat light and "happy" thread about the pro's of the USA.
First I was going to go with comparisons in places like North Korea, China, etc..
But thats too simple, they are not even remotely on the same level...its like comparing a ferrari to a coal powered motor scooter.
I decided then to go with the country most loved by us generally, the UK...and more specifically, England.
our Independence day celebration is based off of breaking off from England and starting our own nation (Which England gladly accepted with no fuss )
Anyhow, its hard as hell to figure out what is actually better between the US and England...the nations quality of life generally are matched point for point, which makes it even more interesting on the minor differences. And yep, there are differences...so, what is better then.
Well, lets start with the ole boob tube.
In the United Kingdom and the Crown Dependencies, any household watching or recording television transmissions must purchase a television licence, every year. As of 2010, this costs £145.50 for colour and £49.00 for black and white. The licence is required to receive any television transmission, whether it is received via terrestrial, satellite, cable, or the Internet. A licence is not, and never has been, required simply to possess a TV set, for the purpose of watching pre-recorded content, or use as a monitor for video games or computers. Although income from the licence is primarily used to fund the television, radio and online services of the BBC, a licence is needed to view all broadcast channels, including commercial services. Total levies from the licence fee were £3.45 billion in 2009–10 of which £556 million or 16% was provided by the Government through concessions for those over the age of 75.
Now, this is something that I found sucked when I lived over there.
Every television in the house, if plugged in, requires you to pay the government for the opportunity to play the signals shot in your house anyhow. This money is used to pay off their stations, and that makes sense, but the whole philosophy is screwy (We will blast signals into your home...should you have a device that makes sense of it, you must pay)
In America, the average person has 63 televisions in their home (give or take). Putting a rule in like this would have many simply melt down into primal rage.
I am not a gun owner...unless the gun is made of pixels, then I am ultimately not a fan. I prefer swords..however, I do understand the enjoyment of gun ownership (I once owned a BB Gun, I was a mightly slayer of tin cans).
In the UK, you can own a shotgun if your a farmer...otherwise, nope...no collections, no handguns, etc...hell, even the average cop is left with little more than a billy club and a array of sarcastic remarks to stop crime.
This point can be argued either way...sure, murder and other violent crimes are far less than america, however percentagewise, the english have to deal with more burglery and other "minor" crimes.
Tradeoff? debateable..but its a difference that some would consider unacceptable (hold dead hands and whatnot).
And they are going to be in poor shape for the coming zombie apocolypse
Rate Dividend income Savings income Other income (inc employment) Band (above prsnl allowance)
Lower rate N/A 10% N/A £0 - £2440 applies only if total income falls in this band
Basic rate 10% 20% 20% £0 - £37,400
Higher rate 32.5% 40% 40% over £37,400
Additional rate 42.5% 50% 50% over £150,000
So, here in America, we are flipped out that millionares may be taxed at 39%, yet the UK simply taxes anyone over 150k (sterling, thats what..about 200k USD?) is 50%.
This fuels the many social programs (NHS, University, etc). So, the bling bling golden pools are a bit less common over there...and we love our golden pools.
(Personally, I have no issue with the tax rate, just wanted to toss this in for perspective)
The english are creatures in the mist.
The average temperature (if you take all year and average it out) is 55 degrees(f) and they average at about 1457.4 hours of sunlight. Thats not a lot...
This is a source of general pride for many, its a symbol of history and heritage..basically its their tourist trap.
In saying that, with the links to nazi's, the power they still hold and use (see shutdown of canadian government by order of the queen), and the forced taxpayer money going to support their existance, the whole structure itself is redundant and absurd.
We have our "royalty"...our famous tourist trap types...and we love them overall..however, their existance is built on the willful money sent to them by people (through movie sales, record sales, etc)...there is no threat of reposession on your crap or potential jail if you fail to give to them.
I am curious what you personally would suggest is better about America than England
Either way, happy Independence day ATS...
And to the english currently grumbling at this thread and ready to throw your tea at the monitor, Know that we jab because we love