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(b) EXCEPTIONS.—Subject to subsections (c), (d), and (e), the prohibition in subsection (a) does not apply to a test or experiment carried out for any of the following purposes:
(1) Any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity.
(2) Any purpose that is directly related to protection against toxic chemicals or biological weapons and agents.
(3) Any law enforcement purpose, including any purpose related to riot control.
(c) INFORMED CONSENT REQUIRED.—The Secretary of Defense may conduct a test or experiment described in subsection (b) only if informed consent to the testing was obtained from each human subject in advance of the testing on that subject.
Originally posted by IPILYA
reply to post by Uncinus
The Bold type in my post are hyperlinks click them.
If you are attentive to contrail formation and duration, you will notice that they can rapidly dissipate or spread horizontally into an extensive thin cirrus layer. How long a contrail remains intact, depends on the humidity structure and winds of the upper troposphere. If the atmosphere is near saturation, the contrail may exist for sometime. On the other hand, if the atmosphere is dry then as the contrail mixes with the environment it dissipates.
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
In Oz I lived near an airport and have lived in Asia near several flight paths and never even seen one
Why does this issue only seem to affect planes in the US and to a smaller degree the UK?
his summer period can be a very wet season for Beijing and officials have been concerned their moment of huge national pride would be a wash-out. But it would appear the 21 rain dispersal launch sites kept nature at bay and made sure the celebration fireworks didn’t get soggy…
Also controversial: the widespread belief in Beijing that the government bears some responsibility for at least one of the big storms. And this is not just a crazy conspiracy theory either. The capital has a bureau actually called the Beijing Weather Modification Office. This organization gained a fame of sorts for their efforts to control precipitation during the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Here is a picture originally from china-briefing.com showing a plane dropping chemicals in the air in China:
Looks a lot like a "contrail" to me, so how do you tell the difference?
Originally posted by IPILYA
Wow, I can't believe this is such a hard topic to understand. So lets put it easy for everyone to understand shall we.
The OP article was talking about stopping rain yet most of the discussion is on seeding. UM...off topic.
A contrail is water vapor and dissipates in less than 5 miles. Its dissipation is uniform and spreads to nothing as the water vapor is ether evaporated of spreads too far to come together as a cloud.
A chemtrail is the spraying of chemicals in the air for a specific purpose, one of which is seeding. Seeding is the spraying of chemicals into a cloud to activate rain.
Another form of chemtrail is used in large populated areas and is done on a clear day usually in a grid pattern. These are distinguished by the trail continuing for miles and miles. Its dissipation is a spreading effect like a ribbon. Instead of spreading on the wind it spreads in waves in a flat formation. Its purpose is what is speculated. These are what some people believe are used in conjunction with the HAARP system by activating magnetically the chemicals both in the air and on the ground. The chemicals on the ground are like spiderwebs everywhere and have color tints of red and blue. These are what is blamed for Morgellon's disease
Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
Originally posted by bsbray11
Here is a picture originally from china-briefing.com showing a plane dropping chemicals in the air in China:
Looks a lot like a "contrail" to me, so how do you tell the difference?
Sorry OP, but I have to call foul on that image.... That is NOT a cloud seeder... that is a stunt plane with a smoke trail for wow factor.
1: There is NO CLOUDS in that image... Cloud seeding is worthless unless there are clouds to seed!
2: Obviously in that image, the aircraft is doing some aerobatic maneuver.
So... I highly suggest you remove that image before you start brainwashing more chemmies.edit on 30-5-2011 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Utterly wrong:
I know weedwhacker, but the US is not one of those places where it is done openly.
Just ONE thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Type "cloud seeding" into ATS Search.....
Use Google: Just type "cloud seeding usa"
Wow, so you finally admit some of these "contrails" are not contrails at all? That didn't take very long.
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by SirCoxone
The logic comes back to this. Cloud seeding is done in clouds that are much lower than jets fly, if you want to seed clouds then you don't do it at 35,000ft. If you see high trails then those are not cloud seeding chemicals.
Simple.
You then ask how do people know it is not chemicals from high planes instead of just vapour. This question bears no relation to the first and is totally different.
Let me ask you this.
How do you know there isn't a huge alien mothership in orbit now targetting you directly with strange mind altering rays making you post on here.
Well, if you can't see it then it might be happening right? so prove to me it isn't.
Well of course the sensible answer is, unless you can come up with a sensible reason and hypothesis as to why it would be happening, you can forget about it.
Actually, the "mother ship" explanation is the only one that makes sense, and since I believe it, and you can't disprove it, it must be true. Moreover, there are dozens of "mothership" threads and YouTube videos, so the "evidence " is overwhelming.
As for hypotheses, I specifically asked the author for just one, and he has thus far refused to offer any.
Must be the mothership.
jwedit on 30-5-2011 by jdub297 because: sp
The term chemtrail is derived from "chemical trail" in the similar fashion that contrail is a portmanteau of condensation trail. It does not refer to common forms of aerial spraying such as crop dusting, cloud seeding, skywriting, or aerial firefighting.[7]
Originally posted by GrinchNoMore
reply to post by weedwhacker
It would appear that NO attempts have been made to alter the engines to somehow STOP making these bloody trails,
it would seem logical and IMPERATIVE to rid these blights from the skies so we could stop altering the weather and be able to actually get some sunlight...but oh yes !!!! The Sun is BAD for us !!
CONTRAILS, the best dam SUNBLOCK on the market....
Originally posted by bsbray11
The word "chemtrails" can include any dumping of chemicals into the atmosphere, and there was an article posted earlier in the thread showing cloud seeding specifically being referred to as "chemtrails," referenced by the Wikipedia article on chemtrails, which also says that chemtrails are suspected in weather manipulation. That's exactly what cloud seeding is. "Chemtrails" = chemical trails, so I see no reason why cloud seeding should be excluded from this definition. Cloud seeding is also extremely controversial, just like any other kind of chemtrails would be. You don't hear your weatherman talking about how such-and-such storm system is going to dissipate or grow because of active weather manipulation do you? Yet it happens.
The United States Air Force maintains that the theory is a hoax which "has been investigated and refuted by many established and accredited universities, scientific organizations, and major media publications".[5] The United Kingdom's Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs has stated that chemtrails "are not scientifically recognised phenomena".[3] The Canadian Leader of the Government in the House of Commons has stated that "The term 'chemtrails' is a popularised expression, and there is no scientific evidence to support their existence."[6]