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Originally posted by OrphenFire
Originally posted by Drakmarine
reply to post by NeoAstra
He is not afforded the same privacy as a normal citizen. He is the POTUS, and if he is asked to verify his citizenship, he should comply. He works for us. We pay his salary. Forgive me if I do not trust goings on behind closed doors, but politicians are slimy individuals. This has nothing to do with privacy, because nothing on this birth certificate is surprising to anyone. The information was already known, people just need to see it. If a cop asks for your driver's license while you are driving a car, are you going to say, "I have it sir, but I do not wish to show it to you." No, you will be arrested for driving without a license. This is exactly the same thing.
I agree if u have the power to end the world ie control of 1000's of NUKES with a push of a button. Everything about a person should be known.
Originally posted by 2ndFUTURE
reply to post by WayfaringStranger
There is plenty of documents to show you what a natural born citizen is at the time of the writing of the constitution. The founding fathers thought is was pretty clear. We don't have to guess, we just have to read what they wrote.
he facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919). In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children.
Originally posted by 2ndFUTURE
reply to post by ih8dogfarts
He was NOT born Barry Soetoro. He was adopted at age 5 by Lolo Soetoro and moved to Indonesia with his mom and step mom. He couldn't go to school in Indonesia unless he was a Indonesian citizen as was Indonesian Law. He went to school there several years before his mom shipped him to grandma's. He signed in at his indonesian school as "Barry Soetoro"
but....he was not born that way
Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
Originally posted by misnomer68
...he may have been sucking off the US teat while in college by receiving funding for his education on the premise that he was an "international" student...
an interesting idea, but I don't see how it would work... foreign students pay more than US natives for tuition at Most US universities. To my knowledge, the government does not fund foreign students at all.
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Birthers, you've been 'had' by Republicans who manipulated your distrust of this man and fueled it. Notice how Palin, Beck, or Trump never accused the President of being illigitimate, but only ever said they found it "interesting"? It's because they know the truth and only wanted to fuel the doubt in your distrusting eyes. They see you as highly subject to manipulation and so these people encouraged you to fall into a place of complete ignorance for the sake of collecting your votes in the process.
Originally posted by Byteman
LMAO, you Obamanauts are getting more desperate everyday.
Originally posted by nonapologetic
reply to post by freakjive
Good this proves that he is NOT a natural born citizen. The law at the time stipulated that if one parent only is a citizen that parent must be a resident for 6 years past their 16th birthday. His mother did not meet this and his father was not a citizen. He may be a citizen but he is not and never will be a natural born citizen, at least now we have proof.
(4) A person born outside the United States and its outlying
possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a
national, but not a citizen, of the United States who, prior to the
birth of such person, was physically present in the United States
or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not
less than seven years in any continuous period of ten years -
(A) during which the national parent was not outside the United
States or its outlying possessions for a continuous period of
more than one year, and
(B) at least five years of which were after attaining the age
of fourteen years.