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Originally posted by Schkeptick
-even if Obama WAS born abroad, his mother was still American. I live abroad - if I had a child here, that child would be American because I am! That child would be eligible to run for president someday!
All of these arguments, from the very beginning, are based in extreme IGNORANCE. Ignorance of the laws, of how records are kept, of many things. But ignorance nonetheless.
Originally posted by 2ndFUTURE
reply to post by something wicked
...Natural born citizen has to be born of the land by two citizens whether they were foreign born or not...
Originally posted by 2ndFUTURE
reply to post by Drakmarine
If he had verified it for his campaign as you say then why did he have to send away for it a couple of days ago?
Originally posted by filosophia
Not sure if this will silence the birthers, it may just add more fuel to the fire
It says his father was born in Kenya, so unless he gained citizenship in some way, Obama is still not natural born
A Natural Born Citizen is one who is born of citizen parents. A child born abroad to two US citizen parents is a natural-born citizen: Provided, That at least one citizen parent had a prior residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions. U.S. Code: Title 8, 1401.
Originally posted by misnomer68
...he may have been sucking off the US teat while in college by receiving funding for his education on the premise that he was an "international" student...
Originally posted by Drakmarine
reply to post by NeoAstra
What I don't understand is why all birthers think they have a right to carefully scrutinize the president's birth certificate. Why did he wait three years to produce the certificate for public examination? Maybe because he is like every normal person and would tell any stranger trying to examine intimate personal documents to farck off!! He had it verified for his campaign and presidential run, normally that would be good enough. I mean come on guys do you need proof that he's married too? I guess youll have to wait another 3 years until the president releases his wedding night footage. ( A bizarre example, but its tantamount to the same thing.)
Originally posted by Rocky Black
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
Even I can tell that is a forge job look at his name up close see the whiting under his name look down at the lower text it is not the same this is a forged document and I cannot wait for a real forensics expert to come out and tear that piece of phony crap apart.
I call fraud right here
Originally posted by HenryPatrick
im calling fraud on this one...not sure if this has been pointed out, but at the bottom it is stamped April 25, 2011 and a statement signed by Alvin T. something-i-cant-read, which states that this Alvin person does "certify that this is a true copy or abstract of the record of file in the Hawaii..."....so why release what is obviously a forgery, why not release the ORIGINAL? because this Alvin person certifies it, the controversy is over all of a sudden? i dont effing think so...because the original doesnt exist, he is a foreign usurper, case closed...not that it ever really mattered anyway...its not like we are going to get him thrown out and replaced with someone who isnt a globalist corporatist stooge...