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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
BH...we should really just give up. Some people will never listen to reason or facts. Some can't admit to themselves that they have been wrong and spreading lies for over 3 years.
And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens. Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States.
Originally posted by NAeagle89
Trump won against Obama. ]
Let's join together and DROP this issue
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Originally posted by filosophia
Not sure if this will silence the birthers, it may just add more fuel to the fire
It says his father was born in Kenya, so unless he gained citizenship in some way, Obama is still not natural born
A Natural Born Citizen is one who is born of citizen parents. A child born abroad to two US citizen parents is a natural-born citizen: Provided, That at least one citizen parent had a prior residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions. U.S. Code: Title 8, 1401.
www.scribd.com...
The above applies to being a "Natural Born Citizen" a requirement for becoming president....
How about you post the entire code, rather than cherry pick something that isn't even applicable to Obama.
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
www.law.cornell.edu...
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
BH...we should really just give up. Some people will never listen to reason or facts. Some can't admit to themselves that they have been wrong and spreading lies for over 3 years.
Agreed. We've been fighting this willful ignorance for years.
If we stop feeding the machine, it will grind to a halt.
We are as guilty of perpetuating this insanity as the birthers themselves. As long as we keep trying to show the truth, they will keep making ridiculous assertions without sources and they will remain immersed in willful ignorance. They are a smaller percentage now and their argument will die of neglect.
Let's join together and DROP this issue.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by Odessy
reply to post by xavi1000
This may or may not be real, but it has been photoshopped.
The writing etc is on a multiply layer to show that silly green background... which makes me wonder...
Why didn't they just show an undoctered version?
good grief.
Just give it up.
Originally posted by jibeho
This "new" document clearly cites Kapi o Lani medical center as the birthplace. Clearly. So, why the confusion back on the 2008 regarding the hospital? Back then, Obama's own campaign site had listed Queens medical center as well as other news sources then they sought to obfuscate that little fact by changing the story to Kapi....
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
Let's join together and DROP this issue
Agreed. When I see a thread entitled "the earth is flat" or some such, I tend to not click on it. I shall do the same with these ridiculous assertions.
Originally posted by drmeola
You all are clueless, first of all it matters not where he was born the rules and regulations for eligibility for the office of president of the US, clearly states that both parents must be US Citizens period, his father clearly on the long form shows is 25 years old and is from Kenya, his father was not a natural citizen born on US soil, there for making the current President Obama, holding office illegally.
The media is blinding you all with this whole so called birther thing, the rules of office are clear, this is what they do not want the general public to know about period. It’s called a duel alliance, father of one country mother of another, so the commitment of the child is compromised, end of story.