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Putin: Who gave NATO right to kill Gaddafi?

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Why is it okey to let people die in Syria?!




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:01 AM
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Ironic for Putin to speak up........He has more or just as much blood on his hands as Gaddafi. Wow! Guess he was feeling a little threatened and didn't want to be one uped!

Pax



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by cushycrux
Why is it okey to let people die in Syria?!


It isn't. My understanding is that the UN is going to get involved, leaving everything on the table.
My personal belief, as is many Americans, getting involved should have nothing to do with oil or anything else other than humanitarian purposes.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by Drala
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Great statement.......would you say that to his face??


Absolutely, anytime, anywhere... I'd be thrilled to have a face to face meeting, and would jump on the opportunity.

Man to man, face to face, just him and me!


You edited my response? Look at all the ... ... you can tell you deleted my middle lol...You said you would tell him he is next, after Gaddafi...threaten his life...you edit my response to imply like you are going for tea lol
You do realize he is trained military...you aware of spetznaz. No offence, but if didn't sh-t yourself outta fear, and stupidly opened your mouth...i imagine it would be the last STUPID ARROGANT thing you would ever say...

Though he is not the first world leader to practice judo, Putin is the first leader to move forward into the advanced levels. Currently, Putin holds a 6th dan (red/white belt) and is best known for his Harai Goshi (sweeping hip throw). Putin earned Master of Sports (Soviet and Russian sport title) in Judo in 1975 and in Sambo in 1973. At a state visit to Japan, Putin was invited to the Kodokan Institute where he showed the students and Japanese officials different judo techniques....

Dude and if you have ever practiced a martial art, Judo is bad assed...I personally know a blackbelt in hapkido that got spanked by judo blackbelts and came back commenting how they got dominated...

Putin has a set of brass ones...more than i can say for your false prophet Barry...keep listening to the serpent tongued media....the world is not as simple as that...


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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Romanian
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oh, I am not naive. Lived under dictatorship myself, Ceausescu in Romania. If in 1989 the army would choose to obey the dictator and continue killing the civilians/protesters, would that make me a terrorist for not submitting to Ceausescu, and accept his son to rule over me? How many happy citizens of Gaddafy land did you talk to ? All the lybians Imeet were as happy as the Romanians during Ceausescu.


Libya 2011 is not Romania 1989. Libya is a tribal community with strong internal divisions between east and west parts of the country. The "rebels" are mainly part of the eastern tribes that has always been in opposition to the Gaddafhi regime. The popular uprising in Romania has few similarities to the Libyan uprising even though the MSM has put their spin on it to make i look the same. Yes Gaddafhi is a dictator and yes a democracy would be preferable. However the rebel faction is not a democratic movement just another faction fighting for power.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by UcDat

Originally posted by boondock-saint
Putin is absolutely right.

so stop them


yep he is and he has more soul than anyone on the Obama team considering the things he's done it says a lot about how far we've seen the American system fall. Yep Putin aint perfect but you know what at the end of the day he's telling his people whats what and planning for their survival. You think the USA would build millions of bomb shelters for its citizens?


ps great link on the sig here's another star for ya.


And who gave Russia (with Putin as its leader) the right to bomb, shoot and generally slaughter civilians in Chechnya and Georgia amongst other places in very recent times?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Canadianpride420
reply to post by Romanian
 


BS..you obviously haven't met many libyans because the majority LOVE ghaddafi..He is not a dictator, show me evidence that he is.


Hi there. A very key element of being a dictator is taking charge of a country by force (tick) and not allowing the population to vote its leadership (that would be a double tick). If you think he's a gentle good dictator or otherwise doesn't change those basic facts.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:02 AM
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I'm not sure that your experience has anything to do with the current situation in Libya. You didn't address my questions about the rebels. Are you of the opinion that the "rebels" are not terrorists? What would you base that on? MSM reports/allegations?
If the mojority of Libyans are opposed to the regime, why are the rebels' numbers so low? Why would Qaddafi want to arm civilians if they opposed him?
What evidence do you have that there is popular support for the "rebels"? Where I am sitting it looks like this is an attempt to overthrough a legit. government and install an international banker controlled central bank and take control over the nation's oil(oh wait, both of these things have already happened).
Why should Qaddafi, or any leader allow this to happen? You think the US wouldn't destroy any resistance attempting to overthrow it's regime?

Romania is not an accurate comparison to Libya at all, this is more comparable to Venezuela and the attempted coup of Chavez. You know, the one where the people kicked out the CIA stooges and put Hugo back into power.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Kill the beast Gaddafi? Any evidence of such orders???

What the hell is Putin and his puppets talking about????

It was only destroying military chain of command structures to end the ruthless shellings of innocent civilian libyans by the beast Gaddafi and his sons.

Best the russian despot do some soul searching and look towards its own dissatisfied citizens, pacify them instead of talking crap in the international scene, or they may soon find themselves booted out of office.[
edit on 26-4-2011 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)

Quite. Ironic isn't it that folks in the US are "behind" Putin and defensive of Gaddafi given their respective histories. Maybe people have amnesia......



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by Drala

You edited my response? Look at all the ... ... you can tell you deleted my middle lol...


Yes, and I did it so I could respond to that specific part of your post.


You are taking this way too seriously.


Don't believe all of the hype and propaganda about Putin.

He is a pathetic, disgusting, perverted little man.




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Kill the beast Gaddafi? Any evidence of such orders???

What the hell is Putin and his puppets talking about????

It was only destroying military chain of command structures to end the ruthless shellings of innocent civilian libyans by the beast Gaddafi and his sons.

Best the russian despot do some soul searching and look towards its own dissatisfied citizens, pacify them instead of talking crap in the international scene, or they may soon find themselves booted out of office.[
edit on 26-4-2011 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)


Is your nickname erroneous?
Gaddafi Compound Bombed By NATO
www.huffingtonpost.com...

TRIPOLI (Reuters) - NATO forces flattened a building inside Muammar Gaddafi's Bab al-Aziziyah compound early on Monday, in what a press official from Gaddafi's government said was an attempt on the Libyan leader's life.

Firefighters were still working to extinguish flames in part of the ruined building a few hours after the attack, when foreign journalists were brought to the scene in Tripoli.

The press official, who asked not to be identified, said 45 people were hurt in the strike, 15 of them seriously, and some were still missing. That could not be independently confirmed.

Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam said the Libyan government would not be cowed by such attacks.

"The bombing which targeted Muammar Gaddafi's office today... will only scare children. It's impossible that it will make us afraid or give up or raise the white flag," he was quoted as saying by the Jana state news agency.

"You, NATO, are waging a losing battle because you are backed by traitors and spies. History has proved that no state can rely on them to win."



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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Why is this Thread in Social Issues? I think a move to WW111 Forum would be appropriate. Make no mistake, the players are lining up in the global domination game.

Why do so many seem to assume the Abstention = silent agreement? Nobody but Putin knows his motivation for the decision to abstain from the resolution vote. Abstention was a strategic decision and speaking out after the fact supports this.

Remember, coalition involvement came after the Arab League made the request to NATO/UN and that this request was not made until after the completion of the pipeline project. Now the AL are voicing concern and distancing themselves from coalition action. It will be interesting to see the Arab response to any successful attempt to assassinate Gadafhi.

Agree with him or not, Putin is a charismatic leader who inspires confidence in many of his countrymen and his views on intervention in Libya are 'right', albeit hypocritical given actions in Chechnya et al.

Libya is a secular islamic socialism; all infrastructure and social apparatus are provided free at the point of delivery and workers are not paid. Therein is the sad irony that ME uprisings are crying out for democracy when democracy is just an idea that in reality does not exist.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Kill the beast Gaddafi? Any evidence of such orders???

What the hell is Putin and his puppets talking about????

It was only destroying military chain of command structures to end the ruthless shellings of innocent civilian libyans by the beast Gaddafi and his sons.

Best the russian despot do some soul searching and look towards its own dissatisfied citizens, pacify them instead of talking crap in the international scene, or they may soon find themselves booted out of office.[
edit on 26-4-2011 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)


Is the Pentagon sock puppetry social engineering internet software translated in Russian yet?
Better hurry up! The divide between Putin and Medvedev is diminishing!

I should have said social suicide engineering internet software. Since it's being used against whole societies for them to commit suicide, at least in the North Africa and the Middle East as it seems.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by teapot
Why is this Thread in Social Issues? I think a move to WW111 Forum would be appropriate. Make no mistake, the players are lining up in the global domination game.

Why do so many seem to assume the Abstention = silent agreement? Nobody but Putin knows his motivation for the decision to abstain from the resolution vote. Abstention was a strategic decision and speaking out after the fact supports this.

Remember, coalition involvement came after the Arab League made the request to NATO/UN and that this request was not made until after the completion of the pipeline project. Now the AL are voicing concern and distancing themselves from coalition action. It will be interesting to see the Arab response to any successful attempt to assassinate Gadafhi.

Agree with him or not, Putin is a charismatic leader who inspires confidence in many of his countrymen and his views on intervention in Libya are 'right', albeit hypocritical given actions in Chechnya et al.

Libya is a secular islamic socialism; all infrastructure and social apparatus are provided free at the point of delivery and workers are not paid. Therein is the sad irony that ME uprisings are crying out for democracy when democracy is just an idea that in reality does not exist.



Yeah, long live the Monarchy, the Blue Bloods and the Aristocracy, the legitimate heirs...
I think we should send some enlightened Blue Blood representatives down in Libya to rule the sheepish and genetically unclean to be self governed masses.
Long live the Crown. Long live colonial feudalism. Long live the brave Royal Air Force myopic pilots that continue to bomb innocents.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:10 AM
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Hmmmmmm............destroying infrastructure.......bombing.........Thats what they did in Iraq.
Then they got contractors in to rebuild.
Which the country pays by selling its oil(resources) that its puppet government "sells" to western countries(invaders).
Who saved them from a despot.
By destroying infrastructure with massive bombing campaignns.

Anyone seeing a pattern yet.

Putin is just annoyed because Russia is missing out again on a piece of the Resource Pie.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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I really wonder about some of you. A dictator of 40 years tries to supress his people with violence, when they just want freedom from his long standing regime, and instead of supporting countries who want to free this country (and NATO, who finally has the sac to DO something, than sit uselessly on its worthless butt, debating endlessly), you stand on the side.. of Putin!? Seriously?

I honestly think many of you would do much better if you moved out of this crappy, evil, wicked country that wants to supress you in so many ways (I don't even know how you manage to post stuff on the Internet!), and move to one of these friendly, fun countries run by ruthless dictators. Why you choose to live in this country at all baffles me. I can understand speaking out, I can understand wanting to continue to support freedoms. I cannot wrap my mind around how every time a know dictator, or even terrorists speak out, people here SUPPORT them! It boggles the mind.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by SirMike
Who gave Putin the right to kill Anna Politkovskaya?


Soros wanted a martyr.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by spacebot

Originally posted by teapot
Why is this Thread in Social Issues? I think a move to WW111 Forum would be appropriate. Make no mistake, the players are lining up in the global domination game.

Why do so many seem to assume the Abstention = silent agreement? Nobody but Putin knows his motivation for the decision to abstain from the resolution vote. Abstention was a strategic decision and speaking out after the fact supports this.

Remember, coalition involvement came after the Arab League made the request to NATO/UN and that this request was not made until after the completion of the pipeline project. Now the AL are voicing concern and distancing themselves from coalition action. It will be interesting to see the Arab response to any successful attempt to assassinate Gadafhi.

Agree with him or not, Putin is a charismatic leader who inspires confidence in many of his countrymen and his views on intervention in Libya are 'right', albeit hypocritical given actions in Chechnya et al.

Libya is a secular islamic socialism; all infrastructure and social apparatus are provided free at the point of delivery and workers are not paid. Therein is the sad irony that ME uprisings are crying out for democracy when democracy is just an idea that in reality does not exist.



Yeah, long live the Monarchy, the Blue Bloods and the Aristocracy, the legitimate heirs...
I think we should send some enlightened Blue Blood representatives down in Libya to rule the sheepish and genetically unclean to be self governed masses.
Long live the Crown. Long live colonial feudalism. Long live the brave Royal Air Force myopic pilots that continue to bomb innocents.


Monarchy? All hierarchical structures are facsist! Even where people think they are voting for a fair and just society.

And NATO/UN/AL/AU are all playing their own games, why should a leader of one of the BRICS not join in the rhetoric that leads to all out war?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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ditto~



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by something wicked


Hi there. A very key element of being a dictator is taking charge of a country by force (tick)


You mean like the "allies" are doing? (tick)





Originally posted by something wicked
and not allowing the population to vote its leadership (that would be a double tick).


How about if you let them vote but you rig the elections so that only the guys you want to win can win? ( that would be a double tick)




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