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Putin: Who gave NATO right to kill Gaddafi?

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by fleabit
I really wonder about some of you. A dictator of 40 years tries to supress his people with violence, when they just want freedom from his long standing regime, and instead of supporting countries who want to free this country (and NATO, who finally has the sac to DO something, than sit uselessly on its worthless butt, debating endlessly), you stand on the side.. of Putin!? Seriously?

I honestly think many of you would do much better if you moved out of this crappy, evil, wicked country that wants to supress you in so many ways (I don't even know how you manage to post stuff on the Internet!), and move to one of these friendly, fun countries run by ruthless dictators. Why you choose to live in this country at all baffles me. I can understand speaking out, I can understand wanting to continue to support freedoms. I cannot wrap my mind around how every time a know dictator, or even terrorists speak out, people here SUPPORT them! It boggles the mind.



are you even for real...PEOPLE like you boggle my mind..
let me tell you this..when people have been saying for 20+ years..there a secret elite group of banksters running the whole show..media governments and secret services...then let me tell you ..it true...

this whole libyan crisis is one big farce...we all know it..except you ?



i don't want to live in america....the police state..i wouldn't even want to go there on a holiday...

every time you get stopped in america..you have to show your papers..or your going to jail...i could go on...like i said ..what planet you on..




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com...

Cnn actually did cover this and I found it to be odd. They use the word assassinate like it's sharing a beer with the man.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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Out of interest, who gave Gaddafi the right to kill British civillians? He started it


The only real question is why we took so long to enact vengence.

And will America will be next?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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I smell bad herring here. Please do recall that the man is an unelected mouthpiece for the criminal oligarchy that REALLY rules Russia. God only knows who they're in bed with.

Is Putin's totally uncharacteristically sensible and humane speech just another bit of puppetry? Is it, in fact, a move toward positioning Russia to be in opposition to the NATO block in a WW III scenario? Combine this information with recent reports of China and Russia in collusion to drop the U.S. dollar.

Oh, crap.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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Your absolutely right, I dont trust anyone in office maybe an exception for ron paul



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by Drala

Though he is not the first world leader to practice judo, Putin is the first leader to move forward into the advanced levels. Currently, Putin holds a 6th dan (red/white belt) and is best known for his Harai Goshi (sweeping hip throw). Putin earned Master of Sports (Soviet and Russian sport title) in Judo in 1975 and in Sambo in 1973.


You know, Elvis had a black belt, too.

And Kim Jong-il? Apparently, quite the golfer.


Pyongyang media say Kim enjoys golf, having shot multiple holes-in-one during his first try at the game. He reportedly aced five holes and finished 38 under par on the golf course.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:02 AM
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I know. Good point.

Here in the US we have elected mouthpieces for the unelected oligarchy which simply manipulates information and elections to get the people who will play ball with them elected. Which is MUCH better.

Oh wait, we still have an unelected criminal oligarchy calling the shots, even though we get to go through the motions of democracy.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by teapot

Originally posted by spacebot

Originally posted by teapot
Why is this Thread in Social Issues? I think a move to WW111 Forum would be appropriate. Make no mistake, the players are lining up in the global domination game.

Why do so many seem to assume the Abstention = silent agreement? Nobody but Putin knows his motivation for the decision to abstain from the resolution vote. Abstention was a strategic decision and speaking out after the fact supports this.

Remember, coalition involvement came after the Arab League made the request to NATO/UN and that this request was not made until after the completion of the pipeline project. Now the AL are voicing concern and distancing themselves from coalition action. It will be interesting to see the Arab response to any successful attempt to assassinate Gadafhi.

Agree with him or not, Putin is a charismatic leader who inspires confidence in many of his countrymen and his views on intervention in Libya are 'right', albeit hypocritical given actions in Chechnya et al.

Libya is a secular islamic socialism; all infrastructure and social apparatus are provided free at the point of delivery and workers are not paid. Therein is the sad irony that ME uprisings are crying out for democracy when democracy is just an idea that in reality does not exist.



Yeah, long live the Monarchy, the Blue Bloods and the Aristocracy, the legitimate heirs...
I think we should send some enlightened Blue Blood representatives down in Libya to rule the sheepish and genetically unclean to be self governed masses.
Long live the Crown. Long live colonial feudalism. Long live the brave Royal Air Force myopic pilots that continue to bomb innocents.


Monarchy? All hierarchical structures are facsist! Even where people think they are voting for a fair and just society.

And NATO/UN/AL/AU are all playing their own games, why should a leader of one of the BRICS not join in the rhetoric that leads to all out war?


I just tried to give you a glimpse of a possible future.
Where is all the physical gold located in the West?
I have no idea. Hint: Maybe London banks do.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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No debate, and not doing much to quell my queasiness. It's funny how those criminal oligarchies work, ain't it?

Well, guys, if they tell you that your country needs you to enlist and kill some other poor schlub who was also drafted into a mess with no REAL sides, just one over-arching power structure that stands to profit from the conflict, don't you believe it, bub. *gasp, run-on sentences ftl*



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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So hes dead?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Id like to know who gve him the authority to kill the guy who died of the polonium 210?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by mistermonculous
 


I know. Good point.

Here in the US we have elected mouthpieces for the unelected oligarchy which simply manipulates information and elections to get the people who will play ball with them elected. Which is MUCH better.

Oh wait, we still have an unelected criminal oligarchy calling the shots, even though we get to go through the motions of democracy.



I'll take what we have anyday over anything else in the world at this point.
edit on 27-4-2011 by HunkaHunka because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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What you guys don't seem to realize is that currently Russia has a pro-western president and an anti-western prime-minister. Hence the decision to abstain in the vote (taken by Medvedev) and Putin's speeches. A number of Putins followers have recently severely criticized Medvedev for this decidion and lost their jobs as a result.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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I strongly suspect that what is being done elsewhere will eventually come home to roost in the US. The illusion of democracy and the two party sham is wearing thin.

Fake "unprisings" and "humanitarian intervention" to dismantle the Constitution ftw.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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It's funny to me how people ignore that Putin could have used his UN security council veto to PREVENT this from ever happening in the first place.

Of course, he didn't, because he WANTED this to happen, ad now he's merely hedging his bets by criticizing that which he approved up earlier.

Typical politicians.

What's DISTURBING is that the mindless ATS drones prop up the hypocritical words of a totalitarian leader like Putin without any context on the situation, implying that Putin is some sort of saint. Pathetic.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka

I'll take what we have anyday over anything else in the world at this point


Good for you. I want an actual representative democracy back, personally. That "rah rah America is the best country in the world" stuff has been bandied about since I was a child. And since I was a child, America has seriously declined in every aspect from our credit worthiness to infant mortality.

Thats the problem with blindly supporting corporatism disguised as democracy. One, you arent really a patriot, because your country is being shot down the tubes by the same people you support blindly. And secondly, its not democracy if it is made impossible for you to have the information you need to choose your own course.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Who gave Putin the right the kill Chechyan terrorists? Who gave Putin the right to to have his political opponents rounded up and imprisoned because they challenged him?

When he is done answering those questions, then he may ask his.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Why? Does that fact that someone is a jerk mean they cant be truthful sometimes? Or right sometimes?

Despite what some are saying, not all of us are claiming Putin is a great guy himself. But being a ruthless murdering bastard doesnt mean that you cannot have selfish reasons for truthfully outing other ruthless murdering bastards.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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This has nothing to do with Gaddafi's wellbeing - it is all about Libyan infrastructure. A lot of Russian investment went into it but it is now strategically being destroyed on the pretext of war. After ALL of the infrastructure is destroyed, hordes of US contractors will come in to rebuild it for them because they just happen to be such good folk.
When Serbia was bombed in 99 vacuum cleaner factories were targeted (among other such military strategic points). That only makes sense if vacuum cleaners can somehow be made into weapons of mass destruction. Putin is only talking about Gaddafi because he's against the whole operation.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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How is that "breaking epic news"? Why would you put a lot of "faith" in the opinions of an ex KGB official?




ahhh Please! !!


Lets hmmm .... See.. Like BUSH! SR !!

George Bush SR Vice president 2 terms President 1 term

Oil tycoon ,, Kuwait operation desert storm

Chairman Banker of a First International Bank of Houston !! ? Need i say more!

Director of Central Intelligence (CIA) 76- 77 what ! like Putin as a KGB the soviet equivalence of the CIA

Director of Council of Foreign Relations 78-79 ! CFR New World Order One Nation ! One Road! One Highway Government!!! ONE!.......



and your bitching about Putin was KGB!!!



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