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posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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let me explain something here.

No, let me explain something here, you don't come in to a thread at the end and demand anything, if you don't like what's being shared here and don't want to read the thread first and then discuss you're free to leave, the exit is this way>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.




I have repeatedly asked you for something biblical and i feel you have insulted me numerous times by not respecting my request if you are to hand me anything to digest at all. Don't you respect the time of others?

You have insulted me by not reading the thread first and then demanding like a
Don't play here. Don't you respect my time by reading the thread first. You came into this thread of your own volition.

I have offered things to read and you flat refuse to do so. I will not spoon feed you, do you understand that. Want to know, read, don't want to know, leave; this simple.

And, Hopefully this time I have gotten through. Better yet, go talk to yourself and your imaginary friends. Away with it.
benedict9 has already supplied a video about the Nephilim and Book of Enoch. Did you watch that one. No!! You did not!!
Blessings to you. :bnghd:




posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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When I had the experience at the age of 13, I did not awake until the 3rd day of my abduction. They were upset at the fact that I woke up and that they were unable to control a part of me that eluded them. At that moment of waking up they were caught off guard and confused as to how I was able to override what ever they did to me. This very thing happened several times with other's and was always a distressing issue for them.

As to an implant in my head, it was surgically removed when I was 24 when they discovered that all of my internal sinuses, and the area behind my forehead were inexplicably tampered with and destroyed from the inside. The specialist said that he was baffled because it would have had to be done with technology that allowed you to do that from the inside and to his knowledge we did not have such technology. They had to rebuild it all and in performing the 8 1/2 hour surgery to reconstruct it all they discovered an implant and removed it. My surgeon was freaked out about the whole thing and what followed just made it stranger even still. Men came to the hospital spoke with my surgeon and requested all the x-rays and the implant. Luckilly my surgeon had several doctors study the implant under a microscope and look at the x-rays, so there were witnesses. My surgeon was really afraid after that happened.

Now when studying the Nefilim and the Annunakki of Sumeria one can see that both share similarities. Both had great knowledge that they began to share with mankind and civilization began. Both had I believe, genetic modification knowledge. I believe that the greys are such a creation in order to do their work on humans for the fallen ones. They are without soul, terrified of dying and terrified of Yahweh and the Lord Yeshua. They also appear to be a genetically inferior species that is slowly degenerating from what I saw. Their skin is sick looking like their bodies are slowly dying. They were not wearing their sleek suits when I saw them because I don't think they expected me to wake up.

The Bible says in 2 Thessalonians 2:



1Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 5Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? 6And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. 7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.


I believe this strong delusion that the Bible talks about are the 'aliens'. If satan did not use such a delusion then it would only serve to verify the Word of God, which is not what he wants. If he uses an alien agenda of coming to help mankind or what ever, then he will further his cause with ease. Why? Because when they come, they will show great signs and abilities to convince the world and in this way decieve the majority.

What satan and the fallen ones fail to recognize is that Yahweh will allow it all to serve His purposes.
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posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by 547000

Originally posted by ObvTruth
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The thing about this is that hes telling you the straight up truth and you should take this in for debates in your future.


It's quite clear Chaos is more interested in invalidating the point that understanding it. You have to read the whole bible and understand what it's talking about when referring to sons of God, angels, and deceiving spirits. If you don't have the time to actually look where people are pointing where you should start, you will never "get it". It's like someone who never read an economic textbook in their life demanding to know why free markets are more efficient than centrally planned economies. The explanation cannot be reduced to mere sound bites.
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Are you assuming I have never read the bible? Tsk tsk.

You are just another person jumping to conclusion. I will remind you that i am not the one making these claims. the ones making the claims that this is a biblical matter should be able to back it up.

Sorry no one can do that but it certainly isn't my fault.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by DaphneApollo
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let me explain something here.

No, let me explain something here, you don't come in to a thread at the end and demand anything, if you don't like what's being shared here and don't want to read the thread first and then discuss you're free to leave, the exit is this way>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.




I have repeatedly asked you for something biblical and i feel you have insulted me numerous times by not respecting my request if you are to hand me anything to digest at all. Don't you respect the time of others?

You have insulted me by not reading the thread first and then demanding like a
Don't play here. Don't you respect my time by reading the thread first. You came into this thread of your own volition.

I have offered things to read and you flat refuse to do so. I will not spoon feed you, do you understand that. Want to know, read, don't want to know, leave; this simple.

And, Hopefully this time I have gotten through. Better yet, go talk to yourself and your imaginary friends. Away with it.
benedict9 has already supplied a video about the Nephilim and Book of Enoch. Did you watch that one. No!! You did not!!
Blessings to you. :bnghd:



You should really calm down because no one has made any demands at the end of ANYTHING.

I asked you a question... you dodged it. Now use a little common sense and either say that you don't have an answer or simply ignore my requests. Is that so hard? I am not making you post these videos. You are acting like i have forced your hand to give me these videos that I have repeatedly told you i found no interest in. If you want to post them on a public forum, by all means..... but don't pretend like they are the answer to my question... because they are not. Stop trying to substitute because you don't have answer. that's not my problem.

though it's pretty funny that you would get mad over something YOU did.
I'm just trying to make you understand how I am taking your replies because you keep sending them. I'm not making you try to answer so your frustration is more about your pent p reactions than anything i have made you do. Come on.... you are not thinking about this clearly.


It is not my fault that you can't stop dishing out these videos and answers that are so dodgy.

I'm not he one doing that sistah!

As for not reading the thread... you have no idea what I have read up to this point so this is just another conclusion you have jumped to. not surprising.

As for being a cry baby.... so you are mad because my qestion is too hard but rather than concede that by not trying to answer, you resort to toddler type name calling. perfect.

Anyway... I'm not crying for your answer... I know where you get your superstitions from. I know what is in the bible. I really don't need your answers at all. You are the one who claims they are there. i didn't make you do that. I thought hat you should have an opportunity to back your own clams up since my opinion of your material (and I am entitled to my opinion and am following board rules of this public domain) .... is that you are jumping to conclusions based on fears and wanting to say you have all these answers and can make all these claims.

It's not my fault that you can't see what a huge claim you have actually made on such little evidence.

it really is a huge claim.

Let me try to explain it to you like this because this is going way over your head I think.

You, yourself said said "some might be benevolent but i wouldn't trust them"

that indicates that you cannot be completely certain that all aliens are demons.... you say so yourself, yet still you turn around and make the claim that it is true and certain that ENTIRE MULTIPLE SPECIES are demons.

The main problem with this claim is not merely that i don't agree with it. It actually has nothing to do with me at all. I have tried this exersice for my own confirmations... i admit that, but at the end of the day.... your opinion is not really so important to me and i have taken the time to go over much of your material whether you want to believe that or not. The problem with the claim is that it is YOUR claim. do you understand that?
you must own this claim. Even if you never say another word about it. if aliens came to earth and come to find out they were not the demons you thought they were... I mean you must admit to yourself that you could be wrong.... you will still have this claim to own up to. Are you SURE you want to do that?

That's not on me. That's not my problem. If you say you will take the reprecussions of making such a claim and that i shouldn't concern myself with it... so be it. I just don't think you are seeing your own actions... so I was attempting to point this out.... as well as point out that your tactics are very...um... how should I say...obtuse.

Anyone who is NOT sharing your campaign trail can see certain things. It doesn't even matter the subject involved. This could be about anything. You see, i think that you believe people are THAT easy to convince. Some of them are. many of them are not. They ARE going to notice when you dodge questions. They ARE going to notice when you try to slyly substitute answers. They ARE going to notice that when you get mad instead of admitting you don't have verses.... it looks like an excuse. Most will just roll their eyes and walk away and say whatever. I wanted to see if I could make you realize that even if i agreed with you... and I have attempted to find common ground with you on different things. For example i do believe in the earth ages and some of the other things you have talked about.... but even still, when i try to make this conversation as cooperative as possible... from days ago, you still d the same things. Really... I just want you to see that unless you are pre sold on this idea, you are doing nothing to convince the rest. You are actually UNDOING it. You are a detriment to your own agenda because of simple tactics. It could be about any subject under the sun but when you don't show true integrity in truth finding with others, you are only exposing just how fast the human mind will jump to conclusions and then stubbornly hold on to their claims even if it means playing a shady game of "I win this concersation with jedi mindtricks and dodging answers until that person gets tired and gives up.... and if they persist, I will become offended and use my frustration to give up... since I can't see this through"

As for not reading and not watching... you don't know what i'm doing at all. It IS rude to keep posting fodder in order to wear skeptics down until they give up... and believe me, i have looked at much of this material and why i complain is that it is so full of time wasting fodder. that doesn't mean i have looked at none of it. I have told you REPEATEDLY that I have certainly dug and dug and dug into this issue so much that when I watch these videos you post and tell you they are a dime a dozen... you choice to misunderstand this as though I have gone over none of this material simply because i tell you its not what I am asking you for. Is that so hard to understand?
I have even quoted things that people have directly said that is within these videos and you try to bury that? Didn't even acknowledge it? Do you not even know your own material?

that's just another tactic dear.

why is this so hard to understand?


ok.... let's see what other tactics you are going to use to dodge the question or try to convince others... rather than just answer the question or have the good grace to not attempt to answer instead of thinking people are so easily convinced that they won't notice your slight of hand.

I really hate to make this personal but you do not strike me as a very honest person at all. In general.
..besides... you made it personal first by referring to my experiences which you are not qualified to call imaginary with certainty.... it doesn't involve your life and these things don't happen to you so maybe... just maybe you are not really one to be able to say whether or not they are imaginary.

but...you know.... premature conclusions and all that.
It seems to be what you are best at.

I just hope that if jumping to all these conclusions blows up in your face one day that you will not be so stubborn as to not learn something from your own actions.

If an alien saved your life one day, would you be able to humble yourself to admitting that you don't have all the answers?


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posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by Egyptia
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1Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 5Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? 6And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. 7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.


I believe this strong delusion that the Bible talks about are the 'aliens'. If satan did not use such a delusion then it would only serve to verify the Word of God, which is not what he wants. If he uses an alien agenda of coming to help mankind or what ever, then he will further his cause with ease. Why? Because when they come, they will show great signs and abilities to convince the world and in this way decieve the majority.

What satan and the fallen ones fail to recognize is that Yahweh will allow it all to serve His purposes.
edit on 12-6-2011 by Egyptia because: (no reason given)


Hmm. Interesting. you didn't mention this before. The wonderful thing about health care these days is that medical records are kept computerized and any doctor you go to should be able to pull your medical records and i must say, this would eb an interesting case to look over. You can obtain your records or if you already have a copy of them, this would make for a interesting case if you are wanting to help shed light on the deeds of aliens.

As for being able to override what they were doing to you.... we also have to consider that you were gone for 3 days, so they must have been able to do SOMETHING to you beyond your control. besides, if this is the same race that you think satan will use for miraculous works, then I would hope that satan would see to it that they have skills. These abducted you and kept you for three days but were not able to control you, you say?

hmm. interesting.

Perhaps some of this involves some misunderstandings of what was going on during this compromised state, which would explain why more than one aspect of it sounds contradictory.... but anyway...

Can you produce these medical records?

I'm anxious to see them.
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posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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They were able to control me in so far as what ever they did for 3 days, but it is the waking up unexpectedly that is an unknown. I know they did a lot to me because of the many medical issues and the lack of explanations. What ever kicked in after 3 days and made me wake up is the unknown factor in terms of control. There are medical records and the surgeon is still practicing in Ontario. What light could it possibly shed beyond what I already know. Most of these events that occur in people's lives will remain an unsolved mystery.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Egyptia
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They were able to control me in so far as what ever they did for 3 days, but it is the waking up unexpectedly that is an unknown. I know they did a lot to me because of the many medical issues and the lack of explanations. What ever kicked in after 3 days and made me wake up is the unknown factor in terms of control. There are medical records and the surgeon is still practicing in Ontario. What light could it possibly shed beyond what I already know. Most of these events that occur in people's lives will remain an unsolved mystery.



What light could be shed besides what you already know?

it would shed light to *others*.... because they don't know what you know, they would only read what you say... which could be said by anyone.

I don't think it's any mystery that if you had proof that unknown objects were found inside of you and doctors could not understand how they got there....coupled with your story, especially if you willing to do a polygraph.

well.... I know thousands of people who would be very interested in hearing that story and seeing the evidence.... and they are right here on this site with you.

I'm sorry but I have to make a jab here.... I mean, Did I really just ANSWER that question?

COME ON.... no one has to explain that it would be riveting to look over this evidence on ATS!

I would be thrilled if you could get these and we could look over this case and I know others would be too!



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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You should really calm down

What gives you the idea I'm upset. I think you are funny, in a special way of course.





I asked you a question... you dodged it.

What question would that be?




You, yourself said said "some might be benevolent but i wouldn't trust them"

This right here tells me you didn't read the thread. Nuff said Sistah Gurl.




but at the end of the day.... your opinion is not really so important to me

LOL!!!! It must be or you wouldn't have written a Disertation. This is the Gray Area, Proof of anything is not a requirement, read the rules miss thang..

You have not looked at anything I have offered to read, have you? I won't waste another minute with you.

Have you been talking to your imaginary friend again? You are hereby on ignore.

Do you think that this site is the end all, be all of my existence, got news for you, this is just a small snippet of Cyber space dear. You are taking it wayyyy too seriously.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by DaphneApollo
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You should really calm down

What gives you the idea I'm upset. I think you are funny, in a special way of course.





I asked you a question... you dodged it.

What question would that be?




You, yourself said said "some might be benevolent but i wouldn't trust them"

This right here tells me you didn't read the thread. Nuff said Sistah Gurl.




but at the end of the day.... your opinion is not really so important to me

LOL!!!! It must be or you wouldn't have written a Disertation. This is the Gray Area, Proof of anything is not a requirement, read the rules miss thang..

You have not looked at anything I have offered to read, have you? I won't waste another minute with you.

Have you been talking to your imaginary friend again? You are hereby on ignore.

Do you think that this site is the end all, be all of my existence, got news for you, this is just a small snippet of Cyber space dear. You are taking it wayyyy too seriously.



I have already commented on this matter in my last reply concerning wasting my time looking at your material. I have wasted A LOT of my time looking at your material i will say again and i don't know how much more i can make that clear. talked about this in my last reply. I guess you didn't comprehend it.

So now you try to take pot shots. If you found out that what I tell you about my friend is true, would you be able to feel any sense of shame for your preconceived notions? I wonder if you would but that is more about immature pride and ego than anything.

let me explain what is important to me concerning this thread. It is an understanding of something common in the world today. It is about superstition, superficiality, always taking the easy way out, prejudice, intolerance, not going the full distance for truth, lying to get out of things, lying for an agenda.

These things make up the "great deception"

you see, satan makes man weak.... and so man does these things and now the world is in a state of disarray because of it. The deception is already ingrained into the world. Those who take part in these things without repentance are intimately and profoundly connecting themselves to satans agenda. Any person who manipulates can be forgiven, but without repentance... these things continue.

I would suggest to anyone who knows they have used such methods in their activities should repent before the lord if they so believe in him. It's not that I'm worried about things I can't control in others... it's that by design I teach.

As for the site and what you think of it.... I see that you do these things because they are important to you but no... I do not think that you take it serious. I think you actually have a very carefree... or rather careless way of operating but that you are prone to get caught up in a flight of fancy if it sounds right to you... but let's not talk about that because it makes you seem all the more shallow with what you are doing.... and this is not supposed to be a personal matter even though you keep trying to take it in that direction. You don't know anything about my friend and the fact that you would try to use this against me just shows how you use false tactics and would resort to trying to hurt someone to win your argument. You don't think god frowns upon such things? I am very surprised that you have taken upon yourself to preach when you have so much ill will towards a stranger on such a personal matter. I think you need to spend a little more time with your God in love and light than using these methods.... but how many times can i say such things. some people are just not quick learners.... so yes, it seems we are sawing at the old saw dust here because you don't seem to want to try to hold your ground here on this. Proof of anything might not be a requirement but if you say something is in the bible... then I expect you to be able to find it, dear.

If you don't, you haven't broken a rule, but you have certainly broken a lot of your own credibility.

that's not my concern. What i am telling you is that is should be YOUR concern.

I think I'm making myself pretty clear on this point so if you must rehash something, let's make it about the topic, shall we?.... even though you are not serious about such a serious claim according to your own admission.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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Great thread DaphneApollo, i enjoyed the vids.
I regularly engage ufo threads on ATS with the opinion that aliens are demonic spirits and am used by now to being ignored. I have often contemplated making a similar thread but it wouldnt have been any good without those compelling vids.
S&F.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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So far what has been the most comical thing is what the guy in one of the last videos called what these alien contacts called their messiah.

"human alien inbreed"


Look up the definition of inbreed... so I guess he's saying aliens and humans are related??


Are we going to start a new thread with this as "compelling" evidence that humans are demons?

Hey, it's only fair!



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by 547000

Originally posted by ObvTruth
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The thing about this is that hes telling you the straight up truth and you should take this in for debates in your future.


It's quite clear Chaos is more interested in invalidating the point that understanding it. You have to read the whole bible and understand what it's talking about when referring to sons of God, angels, and deceiving spirits. If you don't have the time to actually look where people are pointing where you should start, you will never "get it". It's like someone who never read an economic textbook in their life demanding to know why free markets are more efficient than centrally planned economies. The explanation cannot be reduced to mere sound bites.
edit on 12-6-2011 by 547000 because: (no reason given)


Are you assuming I have never read the bible? Tsk tsk.

You are just another person jumping to conclusion. I will remind you that i am not the one making these claims. the ones making the claims that this is a biblical matter should be able to back it up.

Sorry no one can do that but it certainly isn't my fault.



Then you clearly don't understand it. It should be quite clear who the fallen angels are and how many civilizations they had visited.
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posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by St Udio
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i hink that this blogger thinks that a Disclosure or a ET announcement will be one of the ~soon coming~... 3 False Flags events that any one of the following list of persons/agencies will concoct...
Obama administratin, Bilderberger, Federal Reserve, etc

link:
dont-tread-on.me...


Hi St Udio, thanks for the article/link. I believe these things too.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by lestweforget
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Great thread DaphneApollo, i enjoyed the vids.
I regularly engage ufo threads on ATS with the opinion that aliens are demonic spirits and am used by now to being ignored. I have often contemplated making a similar thread but it wouldnt have been any good without those compelling vids.
S&F.


Hi lestweforget, thanks for your support, I appreciate it. Some will see what I'm talking about and others it goes over their heads, but that's ok no big deal huh.
Thank you for the star and flag.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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Thank you Egyptia for stepping in and giving more testimony. No need to do it again though. You'll understand I hope.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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Hey 547000, appreciate you too for stepping in every now and then. Some will never see, it's ok.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by sparky11
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Hi Daphne,

No, I didn't view your videos, but I'm familiar with the concept. I was first introduced to the idea of UFOs/aliens as demonic forces (with inter-dimensional capabilities) in the 90s by the author, Chuck Missler. David Icke sorta dovetails this perspective. Icke, especially, is an author you should look into to "broaden your horizons", so to speak. The total package seems to hold more water than the idea that these things are from Orion, etc.

Also, if you come from this angle, Gen. 6, God's orders in the O.T. to go here and there and wipe out this or that village, etc., now makes sense. Thanks for posting.

In my case, it was my brother - we were discussing these things (UFOs, aliens, as you do, both of us wrote science fiction and were huge fans).
After my brother died, amongst the books I inherited from him was a deeply fascinating and scary novel with that theme. (Sorry, I can't remember title or author, it's here somewhere, but my brother died in 2004, and his books are scattered everywhere through out the house.)



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by 547000

Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by 547000

Originally posted by ObvTruth
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The thing about this is that hes telling you the straight up truth and you should take this in for debates in your future.


It's quite clear Chaos is more interested in invalidating the point that understanding it. You have to read the whole bible and understand what it's talking about when referring to sons of God, angels, and deceiving spirits. If you don't have the time to actually look where people are pointing where you should start, you will never "get it". It's like someone who never read an economic textbook in their life demanding to know why free markets are more efficient than centrally planned economies. The explanation cannot be reduced to mere sound bites.
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Are you assuming I have never read the bible? Tsk tsk.

You are just another person jumping to conclusion. I will remind you that i am not the one making these claims. the ones making the claims that this is a biblical matter should be able to back it up.

Sorry no one can do that but it certainly isn't my fault.



Then you clearly don't understand it. It should be quite clear who the fallen angels are and how many civilizations they had visited.
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lol...

what I understand is that nephilim are mentioned but twice in the actual bible, genesis and in numbers.

in genesis they are referred to as a race of giants, heroes. Part human.

In numbers.... they again are referred to as giants. A race of humans that lived on the earth.

that doesn't sound ANYTHING like aliens. If you want something that sounds like aliens... Jehovah and the angels themselves. The nephilim were not angels at all. They were offspring that were indeed flesh and blood and lived on earth. whether they were offspring of the sons of God or the sons of Seth is still argued today by bible scholars.... but in neither of these places are they referred to as demons.

The book of enoch which is not part of the bible technically mentions fallen angel is the first book "the book of the watchers"....is that so hard to answer?

It goes like this....Q.. 'where can i read about angels in the book of enoch"
A... "the first book, the book of watchers"

I guess that is way too hard. anyway...

the book of watchers talk about 200 angels that mate with woman and produce the nephilim.... which is WAY past tense. This is referring back to the anak offspring of of genesis that were using up all of mans resources then killing them and then god tells noah there will be a flood and then he floods the earth killing off most of the giants and the ones left were cleaned up by men in later days. as for the watchers that mated with woman, they were bound to darkness in the abyss until the day of judgment.

Did you get that last part? BOUND UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.


but you think they are flying around in space ships and are deceiving mankind prior to the day of judgment.


ok... now let's talk about the term "fallen angels"....in the bible? FIND IT.

Exhausted yet? probably not since you probably didn't even look for it.

This is the closest you will find

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The Antichrist comes to this world BEFORE judgment day... do you understand this?

HOW MANY FREAKING YEARS PASS AS THE ANTICHRIST RULES THE EARTH BEFORE>>>>BEFORE



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by DaphneApollo
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Thank you Egyptia for stepping in and giving more testimony. No need to do it again though. You'll understand I hope.


Did you just give this person permission to not back up their own story?

Your tactics are getting weirder and weaker by the minute.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 08:18 AM
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Do you not know that God will SEND the delusion to allow people to be deceived, because they love unrighteousness?

That means He will allow more and more deceiving spirits to manifest.

Your eyes are sealed shut. Hopefully they will open before it's too late.

If you cannot see the relation between the New Age, the occult, and the claims of extra-dimensional ETs... well, then there's nothing we can do for you. Maybe you will read a book like Spirit of the Rainforest and it might open your eyes just a little.

Anyway, back on topic, some users might like to read this:

A Christian Response to the New Age



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