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Originally posted by wcitizen
What exactly do you think is the problem for him to provide his full BC?
Given that this doubt exists amongst the people
In the run up to Nov voting, if he wants to keep his votes, wouldn't it be more logical for him to provide the information which people are asking for, allay their suspicions and in doing so, prevent the loss of votes
Originally posted by wcitizen
so if the people require confirmation of the legitimacy of his birth documents, the Government has a duty to provide it to them.
Originally posted by wcitizen
What exactly do you think is the problem for him to provide his full BC?
It is such a simple request, why on earth would he refuse?
In the run up to Nov voting, if he wants to keep his votes, wouldn't it be more logical for him to provide the information which people are asking for, allay their suspicions and in doing so, prevent the loss of votes which this situation will otherwise undoubtedly engender?
Maybe it's because no other president has ever been treated like this and he refuses to have to answer to higher expectations and standards than the American public has EVER demanded of ANY other president before him.
Ha! Do you think there is ONE person in this nation - One birther that's clamoring for Obama's birth certificate - that would ever, in a million years, vote for him???
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Bush was treated exactly like this.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
If he has something important enough to hide, then we need to find it!!
So, there is one person who would MAYBE vote for him if he released the details of his personal life. You got me there.
For more than two years now, I have given Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt.
That may be hard to fathom for some because of my admittedly relentless and tireless pursuit of the truth about his origins and his constitutional eligibility for office.
After all, I am the guy who has posted this question on billboards across America: "Where's the birth certificate?"
But I really have given Obama the benefit of the doubt until now. I have asked the questions and directed the investigative reporting that has changed America's political landscape on the eligibility question. WND conducted the first national poll on this subject 15 months ago. Back then, we were shocked that 50 percent of Americans knew there was a controversy about his birth certificate and his eligibility – because WND is the only news organization in the country that pursued the story. Today, the latest polls show 58 percent of Americans don't believe Obama's story and suspect he is not eligible to serve.
That is a big shift in public opinion in a short period of time.
During that time, despite suggestions to the contrary, I never accused Obama of being born elsewhere. I never concluded he is constitutionally ineligible. I avoided speculation on what we might find if Obama ever did willingly and openly release his records as other presidents and presidential candidates have.
However, when Barack Obama insinuated to Brian Williams of NBC that he had done everything he could to quell America's curiosity and doubts about his constitutional eligibility for office – turning his own cover-up into an indictment of the people – I say the time for deference is over.
"I can't spend all of my time with my birth certificate plastered on my forehead," Obama told Williams in an interview on NBC's Nightly News.
With this kind of arrogance after the patience the American people have demonstrated over this matter, I'd say it's time to conclude that he is ineligible for office. He's had plenty of time to provide the evidence to clear himself of this charge, this suspicion, this indictment in the form of overwhelming public opinion.
He has failed to answer the charge. He has failed to enter a plea. He has failed to show up for a hearing. Therefore, I no longer afford him the presumption of innocence.
It's time to recognize what we have serving in the White House today – a pretender, a usurper, an arrogant narcissist who believes it's beneath him to answer the questions of the public and to demonstrate his worthiness for office.
Many in Washington, who are complicit in Obama's eligibility charade, and the establishment news media, who failed to provide the appropriate journalistic diligence and curiosity to hold Obama accountable, are still wishing, hoping and praying this issue and the public interest in it just fades away.
That isn't going to happen.
And for those who agree with me, it's time to ratchet up the pressure.
Let's just agree that Obama's indifference to calls from the public for transparency and honesty strongly suggests he has something to hide. Since he is a public servant sworn to uphold the Constitution, it is long past time for him to come clean, lay his cards on the table and prove his eligibility. We've given him that opportunity, and he has insulted those of us who now represent an overwhelming majority by political standards. Instead, he dishonestly plays the victim role, pretending he has done everything he can reasonably do to settle the matter.
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So, right here and now, I declare the president ineligible by default. Maybe he can prove I'm wrong. Maybe he can't. But the people cannot be expected to prove a negative.
I feel confident we'll soon learn the truth.
* What percentage of the public would have to express doubts about Obama's eligibility before it became a real story to the news media?
* What percentage of the public would have to express doubts about Obama's eligibility before he would condescend to providing the most basic evidence required for evaluation?
* What percentage of the public would have to express doubts about Obama's eligibility before controlling legal authorities at the state and federal level take appropriate actions to hold him accountable and to ensure America never faces another problem like this in the future?
Personally, I think we're very close to reaching the critical mass that will bring this issue to a head.
I don't remember ANYONE challenging Bush to prove that he was who he said he was.
I don't remember anyone demanding that Bush prove the hospital he was born in.
I don't remember anyone asking for Bush's birth certificate or challenging his religion or sexuality, either.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
All of those things were already known about Bush.
Obama could do the exact same thing with a few simple and harmless acts.
And it would get the focus of his energy and the energy of his opponents back on topics that matter.
I wouldn't vote for an openly gay president, but if a good president was found out to have had gay encounters I wouldn't care.
. It is his actions as president that will determine the outcome of his legacy, not his sexuality.
If the long-form birth certificate were released, with its unequivocal identification of Hawaii as Obama's place of birth, the cycle would almost certainly continue. Rush Limbaugh already suggested that Obama's trip to Hawaii to see his ailing grandmother, who died not long after, was somehow connected to the controversy. Others, like Michael Savage, followed Limbaugh's lead, saying Obama was going to Hawaii to alter the record.
SOMEONE put these doubts in the people's minds and the people ran with it, just like he hoped they would.
Originally posted by dereks
Originally posted by wcitizen
What exactly do you think is the problem for him to provide his full BC?
Why should he? There is no need for it, and just how does he get it, as Hawaii does not issue them anymore...
I believe there is every need for a President to prove to the nation beyond any doubt that he is eligible to be President.
Given that this doubt exists amongst the people
There is only "doubt" amongst birthers - lol, of course there is, that's why they've been called 'birthers' - it means ' those who doubt his birth details'.[/i
, and no matter what documentation he shows they will not accept it!
]So, you have become the self-appointed spokesperson for hirthers? Or is this your personal, biased, unfounded assumption which is being stated as truth?
Birthers would not vote for him anyway...
Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
SOMEONE put these doubts in the people's minds and the people ran with it, just like he hoped they would.
That SOMEONE is Obama himself in his own words and written in his books. The speculation has been further fueled by the statements of Michelle and by the the bizarre lifestyle of Obama's mother. Additionally, we must not forget the inconsistencies on his own campaign website.
How gullible does he really think the people of this nation are? (please disregard all of those still waiting for "Obama Money")
Obama needs to put it all to bed and move on with his job instead of fueling the rumors. Redemption!!!